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Can the GAA survive the Rugby onslaught

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "Who has ever attacked the GAA over alcohol sponsorship? Perhaps the odd poor quality journalist like himself made an article of it when they had nothing else during the off season . Hook did the same re rugby alcohol sponsorship. Seems some here just want to play the victim all the time"
yes there is an element of playing the victim. But you must remember that the GAA is an amateur and voluntary organization. Whereas Rugby and Soccer (and US football) are professional. With large marketing and advertising budgets behind them. Examples Guinness and Bank of Ireland in Rugby and Skysports in Football. So what is wrong with volunteers speaking up about their game?

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 26/11/2016 12:19:22    1936803

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "There are. Not comparable to Gaelic Foitball and never will be comparable to Hurling, no sport is. Next time you're in Limerick go and look."
given this attitude I am not surprised that Mayo never win All Ireland. Anyway good luck to the Irish rugby team against Australia today.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 26/11/2016 12:22:03    1936805

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Replying To galwayford:  "given this attitude I am not surprised that Mayo never win All Ireland. Anyway good luck to the Irish rugby team against Australia today."
What are you on about?

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4222 - 26/11/2016 12:36:19    1936807

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greenand red County Mayo

Tomsmith here from County Cavan

You are quite right when you Nothing compares to GAA
But if you were to believe the Ruggers the battle in Soldiers field was titanic ( where Ireland first victory over A B) in nature.
But lets remember that the ruggers along with the beautiful PRO;s are flat out selling these two games to the IRish.
Lets all rise up and support our National association ie the GAA

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3857 - 26/11/2016 13:02:32    1936808

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Replying To galwayford:  "yes there is an element of playing the victim. But you must remember that the GAA is an amateur and voluntary organization. Whereas Rugby and Soccer (and US football) are professional. With large marketing and advertising budgets behind them. Examples Guinness and Bank of Ireland in Rugby and Skysports in Football. So what is wrong with volunteers speaking up about their game?"
You dont think the GAA employee the same professional marketing companies as IRFU and FAI etc ? The GAA is not purely a volunteer and amateur association. It is run by full time professionals and contract professional external companies. Sure there are volunteers at club level but this is the same as your local soccer, tennis, basketball clubs.. too

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 26/11/2016 13:27:29    1936813

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Replying To galwayford:  "yes there is an element of playing the victim. But you must remember that the GAA is an amateur and voluntary organization. Whereas Rugby and Soccer (and US football) are professional. With large marketing and advertising budgets behind them. Examples Guinness and Bank of Ireland in Rugby and Skysports in Football. So what is wrong with volunteers speaking up about their game?"
...so instead of constantly whining about 'the media' maybe talk to the professional marketing and promotions companies they pay large sums of money to..which actually could be going to support the voluteers in clubs

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 26/11/2016 13:30:21    1936814

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "...so instead of constantly whining about 'the media' maybe talk to the professional marketing and promotions companies they pay large sums of money to..which actually could be going to support the voluteers in clubs"
Which are you advocating?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 26/11/2016 14:05:21    1936821

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Go easy about the rain. I have been regularly to the Ennis Road Grounds for over fifty years and I could in one the number of times it rained heavily. However two of the worst drenching I ever SaaS were in Croke Park. One was on the day of two football quarter finals, Galway v Kerry and Wexford v Armagh and of course Limerick v Kilkenny in 2014.However the worst of all was Wexford Park in 2009. Limericks v Wexford, which the biggest wash out I ever saw.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 26/11/2016 14:54:05    1936825

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Replying To tomsmith:  "greenand red County Mayo

Tomsmith here from County Cavan

You are quite right when you Nothing compares to GAA
But if you were to believe the Ruggers the battle in Soldiers field was titanic ( where Ireland first victory over A B) in nature.
But lets remember that the ruggers along with the beautiful PRO;s are flat out selling these two games to the IRish.
Lets all rise up and support our National association ie the GAA"
Hear hear Tom. I'll raise a glass to that tonight. Happy Christmas to you and yours and to all Cavan people. The best supporters in the land.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 26/11/2016 16:21:09    1936834

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Hands up who thinks that having no alcohol sponsorship for sports in Ireland will change the drink culture amongst our youth ? It's been around for generations. The 'gonna get locked tonight' thinking rather than ' going out to enjoy ourselves and have a few pints'.

Naively I think there's a long overdue need for alcohol/drugs awareness in schools to promote a responsible atitude to drink and drugs. If a drinks company sponsors a sporting organisation they should sponsor such classes. Guaranteed they'll be accused of vested interests then but you can't please everyone. They're better off promoting a culture of responsible drinking than one where their brand gets associated with binge drinking.

I'm not a killjoy but it's sad seeing kids dragged into a pub with Mam and/or Dad and then grow up doing the same because no-one ever showed them there was more to life than drinking.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 26/11/2016 16:43:46    1936836

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Rugby and soccer will enjoy moments in the spotlight. Gaelic Games are the natural sporting habitat. It's just the way it is.

February is long time for the likes of Ballyea to be back in club action. The GAA calendar might benefit in having the club All-Ireland finals in early December as has been mooted in some quarters.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7842 - 26/11/2016 16:49:00    1936838

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Replying To bad.monkey:  "...so instead of constantly whining about 'the media' maybe talk to the professional marketing and promotions companies they pay large sums of money to..which actually could be going to support the voluteers in clubs"
Soccer is a massive World wide Global business. Rugby is nearly. Both sports are World wide with massive sponsorship and advertising budgets. Billions in Soccer and Millions in Rugby. The GAA is neither of these. It is Ireland based. Compare say BP or Microsoft or Ford autos to say Kerrygold. GAA being Kerrygold. Football being Ford and Rugby being Heineken for example. They are on different levels completely. But still the smaller sports have merit. Slán agus beannacht go léir. Beidh bua ar an CLG.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 26/11/2016 17:29:12    1936844

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Replying To galwayford:  "Soccer is a massive World wide Global business. Rugby is nearly. Both sports are World wide with massive sponsorship and advertising budgets. Billions in Soccer and Millions in Rugby. The GAA is neither of these. It is Ireland based. Compare say BP or Microsoft or Ford autos to say Kerrygold. GAA being Kerrygold. Football being Ford and Rugby being Heineken for example. They are on different levels completely. But still the smaller sports have merit. Slán agus beannacht go léir. Beidh bua ar an CLG."
Aussie Rules is the biggest sport in Australia and is not an International Game .GAA is the biggest sport in Ireland and always will be.

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 26/11/2016 20:33:31    1936864

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Replying To gunman:  "Aussie Rules is the biggest sport in Australia and is not an International Game .GAA is the biggest sport in Ireland and always will be."
nfl the same in america

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 27/11/2016 00:10:22    1936894

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Gaelic Games being unique to Ireland and Irish people will always be popular here. You can go watch soccer or rugby almost anywhere in the world. That's why Irish soccer is never really going to take off. Rugby can draw a crowd because it has a smaller pool of competitive teams and we can reach the top relatively easily.

There is nothing like the GAA anywhere else coupled with the fact that its a core part of our national identity and psyche. Rugby is a good sport and I do like it, the RWC coming here would be good for the country and wont do any harm to the GAA that I can see. Rugby can't top hurling or football as a sporting spectacle for me.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 452 - 27/11/2016 01:41:38    1936900

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Replying To gunman:  "Aussie Rules is the biggest sport in Australia and is not an International Game .GAA is the biggest sport in Ireland and always will be."
Always is a very long time. Aussie Rules holds its own in Australia because it is a professional sport that provides players with a good living. Gaelic football and hurling can never become professional because our much smaller population makes it unfeasible. We live in a different age now. The lure of professional sports both for players and for spectators is compelling it would appear.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 27/11/2016 06:37:01    1936905

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I'd like to congratulate a fellow Lucan residant of mine,Fergal O Brien,on his fantastic victory over Barry "The Hawk"Hawkins in yesterdays thriller in the UK Championship.In doing so,Fergal hit five centuries to win 6-5 and create a small bit of snooker history as it is a record for a best of 11 frame match.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/11/2016 09:14:00    1936907

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I'd like to congratulate a fellow Lucan residant of mine,Fergal O Brien,on his fantastic victory over Barry "The Hawk"Hawkins in yesterdays thriller in the UK Championship.In doing so,Fergal hit five centuries to win 6-5 and create a small bit of snooker history as it is a record for a best of 11 frame match."
Is there still a snooker club in Lucan village?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 28/11/2016 15:27:29    1937099

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Who are the sad-sacks disliking Cue and Mes' posts above?

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12118 - 28/11/2016 16:26:34    1937109

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Gaelic Games being unique to Ireland and Irish people will always be popular here. You can go watch soccer or rugby almost anywhere in the world. That's why Irish soccer is never really going to take off. Rugby can draw a crowd because it has a smaller pool of competitive teams and we can reach the top relatively easily.

There is nothing like the GAA anywhere else coupled with the fact that its a core part of our national identity and psyche. Rugby is a good sport and I do like it, the RWC coming here would be good for the country and wont do any harm to the GAA that I can see. Rugby can't top hurling or football as a sporting spectacle for me."
Rugby is in a fortunate position; It's international, but in a very limited way (almost exclusively ex-British colonies, so while there is an international element, it's not hard to be among the best teams in the world. In contrast GAA is not international, + lacks the associated glamour, while soccer is truly international, which is why even to qualify for a world cup is a major achievement. Also rugby is a public school game, and public schoolboys dominate RTE and the media

befair (Down) - Posts: 237 - 28/11/2016 16:58:58    1937111

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