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Mayonro push on and win the replay....line the way everyone says we missed the boat...we equalised remember. Mayo can play better. We are as good if not better than this Kerry team. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 21/08/2017 03:01:50 2035816 Link
Why do some posters always have to rubbis any match they watch. The wise few who recon yesterday was a poor game really don't like their fooball. That match had everything. I also thought the ref kept the players in check and stopped any messing about off the ball. Yet he also gets critisised. As for the game. Kerry kept Keegan quiet and Mayo kept AOS quiet. I think both will play well next week and Mayo should win. tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1109 - 21/08/2017 07:15:55 2035818 Link
We got out of jail simple as that really. Fair play to EF who made changes quickly and they all improved the team. The FB line will take a lot of flack but they were left very exposed. The question is this how much can Mayo improve and how much can we improve? I think we have much more scope for improvement and I think we will win on Saturday. Just like to mention Andy Moran stunning performance I'd love to see him win a Celtic cross just not at our expense. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 21/08/2017 07:16:01 2035819 Link
I taught Paul Murphy very lucky not to get black card for stopping a runner a lot of refs would have given black for that tackle mayo_123 (Mayo) - Posts: 240 - 21/08/2017 08:21:50 2035824 Link
Strong hints that we'll be seeing the Kerry bedspread the next day and attempting to hit Mayo on the counter. Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 21/08/2017 09:09:28 2035834 Link
I thought the AOS experiment would have worked if they had of deployed a sweeper in front of Donaghy but they left him one on one with him. It was madness to ask Aidan to man mark Donaghy having never played full back before. Remember Donaghy is probably the best full forward to play the game. In saying all that, it seemed to really throw Kerry a curve ball when they couldn't launch high balls into the square, so from that point of view it worked. If Mayo deployed someone like Kevin McLaughlin as sweeper Kerry wouldn't be able to find Donaghy with the low ball. Taking Colm Boyle off in every game is just an absolute joke at this stage, he was their best defender for Mayo yesterday. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 21/08/2017 09:20:45 2035837 Link
Replying To mayo_123: "I taught Paul Murphy very lucky not to get black card for stopping a runner a lot of refs would have given black for that tackle" Agree and just wait to see the blacks issued in the Dub v Tyrone match on Sunday and there in lies the problem - massive inconsistency and very subjective!!! IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 21/08/2017 09:21:38 2035838 Link
Keith Barr made a good Point on the Marty squad while listening on the way home...time for Mayo to put the bridesmaids status to bed. Don't think of this as a oppturnity missed. Mayo are very big as good as Kerry. Go out and win the F'in replay. Lee Keegan, Cillian etc can all play so much better. I fear though our sideline is our weakest link right now. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11230 - 21/08/2017 09:27:50 2035840 Link
I thought Deegan was very good to Kerry. 1. Should a penalty have been given for Griffin touching the ball on the ground in the small square? Only seen it on highlights show last night so will need another look but looked just inside to me. 2. Jack Savage striking out at Diarmuid O'Connor and he gives two yellows? And even worse doesn't hop the ball after and Kerry score a handy free. 3. Just after the second Kerry goal, a Mayo player taken out in the air as he went to catch the kick out, play on and Kerry score a point. 4. Very high and dangerous tackle by David Moran only a yellow, I've seen reds given for challenges like it. 5. Black cards not given to Murphy and Buckley I think for cynical off the ball stuff. In general I thought Kerry got frees a lot easier than us, and he let tackles go for Kerry that weren't for Mayo. Some decisions went in our favour too, Vaughan could have got two black cards, which would have ruled him out of the replay, but on the balance I thought Deegan was nicer to Kerry than Mayo. Still All to play for though! mayoboy1 (Mayo) - Posts: 1654 - 21/08/2017 09:49:30 2035845 Link
Here is mine for what it is worth. Very entertaining game of football where both sides showed a never say die attitude. I am bias in Mayos favour being a westie and this is where I think they went wrong. 1.0 Goal keeper, WTF, if you are not sure hoof it down the middle and if its lost there at least there is a chance to defend. 2.0 Ill discipline on their own 45 giving away two many frees kept Kerry alive. This looked tactical but a great display of defending on the full back line a lot more often than not rebuffed the Kerry attack so no need for all these frees. 3.0 cant understand why Mayos first line of defence was not on their forward line, Kerry easily won this battle on kick outs won by own side. 4.0 Poor shooting, the first shot from a placed ball was shocking, but anyone can make a mistake, and there was plenty more. All this and Mayo still equalised, if this team click on the day watch out. Looking forward to the replay, Hon mayo. mactomac (UK) - Posts: 37 - 21/08/2017 09:55:45 2035850 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Agree and just wait to see the blacks issued in the Dub v Tyrone match on Sunday and there in lies the problem - massive inconsistency and very subjective!!!" Refs i think have been told to relax the black card and use yellows in my opinion. There hasn't been the same frequency or threshold of awarding them in the last month. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 21/08/2017 10:15:18 2035859 Link
Replying To mayoboy1: "I thought Deegan was very good to Kerry. 1. Should a penalty have been given for Griffin touching the ball on the ground in the small square? Only seen it on highlights show last night so will need another look but looked just inside to me. 2. Jack Savage striking out at Diarmuid O'Connor and he gives two yellows? And even worse doesn't hop the ball after and Kerry score a handy free. 3. Just after the second Kerry goal, a Mayo player taken out in the air as he went to catch the kick out, play on and Kerry score a point. 4. Very high and dangerous tackle by David Moran only a yellow, I've seen reds given for challenges like it. 5. Black cards not given to Murphy and Buckley I think for cynical off the ball stuff. In general I thought Kerry got frees a lot easier than us, and he let tackles go for Kerry that weren't for Mayo. Some decisions went in our favour too, Vaughan could have got two black cards, which would have ruled him out of the replay, but on the balance I thought Deegan was nicer to Kerry than Mayo. Still All to play for though!" I haven't watched the video yet but i'll bet after I do I'll be able to list off a dozen or so incidents where Mayo players got off light too. I don't think the ref cost Mayo the game if that is what you are getting at. There was a lot of niggly silly off the ball stuff that could have resulted in frees / cards, and the conditions were atrocious so i think he made allowances for that. Mayo didn't get many scoreable frees but then again the Kerry backs were so badly beaten and so far off their men that they didn't get an opportunity to foul them, as the ball was usually gone over the bar or wide by the time they caught up :) GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 21/08/2017 10:28:27 2035864 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Mayonro push on and win the replay....line the way everyone says we missed the boat...we equalised remember. Mayo can play better. We are as good if not better than this Kerry team." Yerra the thing is Kerry can be a lot better too as we were pretty poor now yesterday. All to play for TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 21/08/2017 10:43:59 2035875 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Keith Barr made a good Point on the Marty squad while listening on the way home...time for Mayo to put the bridesmaids status to bed. Don't think of this as a oppturnity missed. Mayo are very big as good as Kerry. Go out and win the F'in replay. Lee Keegan, Cillian etc can all play so much better. I fear though our sideline is our weakest link right now." You say Keegan and COC could play better but Kerry didn't play to their ability at all. Its the quietest game Geaney has played for a long time. He was marked well but if he plays to capacity he is unmarkable. Andy Moran will (should) be marked closer the next game. He played brilliantly but if he was doubled up on then Mayo were in bother. Mayo people are on about the ref and while I agree some decisions went against ye overall he was fair. Some of Mayo's tackling was shocking and half the team could have got yellows (and second yellows) if he gave all the cards that he should have. Is it coached into them to just swing at the man with fists clenched. No effort to play the ball in most cases (obviously a few great tackles). When people mention DOC getting punched while the other player rightly got a yellow DOC clearly dived holding his throat when he was caught in the chest. For such a talented player some of his antics annoy the hell out of me. Donaghy V AOS - the 2 players I dislike most in Ireland. Complete mismatch and it took AOS out of the game. Any midfielder would have done as well (if not better) and let AOS play his game. Mayo are ruining him by constantly playing him out of position. He is a very good Midfielder/Third Midfielder so play him there. Not FF or FB. He is mediocre in both of these positions dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 21/08/2017 10:55:49 2035879 Link
Replying To mayoboy1: "I thought Deegan was very good to Kerry. 1. Should a penalty have been given for Griffin touching the ball on the ground in the small square? Only seen it on highlights show last night so will need another look but looked just inside to me. 2. Jack Savage striking out at Diarmuid O'Connor and he gives two yellows? And even worse doesn't hop the ball after and Kerry score a handy free. 3. Just after the second Kerry goal, a Mayo player taken out in the air as he went to catch the kick out, play on and Kerry score a point. 4. Very high and dangerous tackle by David Moran only a yellow, I've seen reds given for challenges like it. 5. Black cards not given to Murphy and Buckley I think for cynical off the ball stuff. In general I thought Kerry got frees a lot easier than us, and he let tackles go for Kerry that weren't for Mayo. Some decisions went in our favour too, Vaughan could have got two black cards, which would have ruled him out of the replay, but on the balance I thought Deegan was nicer to Kerry than Mayo. Still All to play for though!" As a neutral I thought Deegan was very harsh on Mayo. Re Griffin touching the ball on the ground - i think this is actually ok as the rule as far as I know it allows you to play the ball away if you are on the ground yourself, open to correction on this however. razor425 (Roscommon) - Posts: 45 - 21/08/2017 11:09:37 2035889 Link
So far the forecast is for dry day on Sat / Sun As I said before the game, Donaghy debate was pushed by Kerry to distract everyone (well done Kerry) He can collect low ball too you know and hes great at offloading to others I thought Keegan and Boyle were struggling later in the game Kerry defence would have been torn apart by Dublin or Tyrone Scarabin (Dublin) - Posts: 116 - 21/08/2017 11:22:41 2035902 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Keith Barr made a good Point on the Marty squad while listening on the way home...time for Mayo to put the bridesmaids status to bed. Don't think of this as a oppturnity missed. Mayo are very big as good as Kerry. Go out and win the F'in replay. Lee Keegan, Cillian etc can all play so much better. I fear though our sideline is our weakest link right now." I though Cillian O Conor was very good it's his brother who hasn't kicked on from '15, lee keegan was well marshalled by murphy , but you'd fancy keegan to play better the next day. But you'd also fancy Kerry to be much better the next day aswell. Am I the only one who thought O Shea did ok on Donaghy ? Donaghy won a few balls no doubt about it but to say 2-4 came off him is harsh on O Shea. The two goals he can do nothing about and some points Donaghy laid off were standard hand passes that Kerry forwards done a load of work then to get a score. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 21/08/2017 11:27:40 2035903 Link
Replying To dstuction: "You say Keegan and COC could play better but Kerry didn't play to their ability at all. Its the quietest game Geaney has played for a long time. He was marked well but if he plays to capacity he is unmarkable. Andy Moran will (should) be marked closer the next game. He played brilliantly but if he was doubled up on then Mayo were in bother. Mayo people are on about the ref and while I agree some decisions went against ye overall he was fair. Some of Mayo's tackling was shocking and half the team could have got yellows (and second yellows) if he gave all the cards that he should have. Is it coached into them to just swing at the man with fists clenched. No effort to play the ball in most cases (obviously a few great tackles). When people mention DOC getting punched while the other player rightly got a yellow DOC clearly dived holding his throat when he was caught in the chest. For such a talented player some of his antics annoy the hell out of me. Donaghy V AOS - the 2 players I dislike most in Ireland. Complete mismatch and it took AOS out of the game. Any midfielder would have done as well (if not better) and let AOS play his game. Mayo are ruining him by constantly playing him out of position. He is a very good Midfielder/Third Midfielder so play him there. Not FF or FB. He is mediocre in both of these positions" How many wides did Deegan kick for us yesterday? How many wides did the wind blow away from the posts? I hate listening to supporters blaming what we can't fix ourselves and I'm certain the players and management know they have to improve with their shooting when opportunities arrive. Not wayward shooting or rushed shooting. Kevin McLoughlin was the calmest man on the pitch yesterday I think. The amount if time he picked up ball around the 40, saw nothing on, held onto to ball and waited for the right option. Not grabbing any headlines just not doing anything stupid. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 21/08/2017 11:30:47 2035906 Link
Is it just me that thinks Durcan is a better player than keegan?! tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/08/2017 11:31:15 2035907 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Is it just me that thinks Durcan is a better player than keegan?!" I would say so. Keegan is one of the best attacking half backs in the country. dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 21/08/2017 11:40:15 2035913 Link