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Dr Crokes vs S'neil

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Quit the whining Ulster lads

Fight fire with fire

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 17/03/2017 19:35:48    1967938

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Replying To rossy15:  "Gooch turned down frees all day long until what he thought would have been the last kick of the game and he still put it wide
N saying that Still glad to see him win his medal bit he doesn't have the bottle of say a Michael Murphy or a sean cavanagh
As for the last 5 minutes ... the less said the better !"
Sure he has more medals than either, I doubt he gives a sh#te what some bregrudger like you thinks.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 17/03/2017 19:36:03    1967939

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The usual posters following the usual course on here. Ulster posters giving out about cynical fouling.. You boys mastered it..
The sending off was critical and was clear as day.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 17/03/2017 19:42:45    1967941

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Quit the whining Ulster lads

Fight fire with fire"
The difference being of course that when Ulster fellas 'fight fire with fire' they are yellow, red and black carded left, right and centre. Its not whinging, it's highlighting hypocrisy and double standards. Cooper is a great player and good luck to him but Croke's cynical play will be buried beneath the sentimental Gooch stuff tomorrow.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9697 - 17/03/2017 19:48:24    1967943

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Replying To rossy15:  "Gooch turned down frees all day long until what he thought would have been the last kick of the game and he still put it wide
N saying that Still glad to see him win his medal bit he doesn't have the bottle of say a Michael Murphy or a sean cavanagh
As for the last 5 minutes ... the less said the better !"
And what would someone from Roscommon know about bottle or winning?

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 17/03/2017 19:51:38    1967945

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When Ulster teams brought in cynicism and extreme negative tactics into Football we were told to deal with and stop whining and crying

Yet when the shoe is on the other foot they cant but espouse their hatred and jealousy of Kerry football and what it has achieved

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 17/03/2017 19:54:20    1967948

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "Ulster lads giving out about cyncism and such like are worse than the boy who cried wolf.

The red was a million percent deserved and Slaughtneil sitting back in their shell for the last 3/4 minutes is their issue and theirs alone"
Lazy post, there are nine provinces and countless club teams, my own club would have been beaten like SN today because they wouldn't have the lack of gamesmanship like a lot of Kerry teams.

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 17/03/2017 19:56:33    1967949

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I didn't see the game but my father said Crokes played keep ball towards the end and Slaughtneil couldn't get the ball off them.

Sounds like sensible strategy and good play to me.Why are the team who play keep ball always getting blamed it's up to the team who are losing to make the running in any sport and they have to force the team playing keep ball to concede possession and not look at the team pass the ball around.

The team who play keep ball are not to blame it's the team who allow them to do it who are to blame.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/03/2017 19:56:39    1967950

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I didn't think the game was any more cynical then in any game that's tight and evenly matched.

SN, shot selection was poor and they were prone to poor decisions. Crokes were far more clinical. Both teams plays some lovely stuff at times.

Crokes were very disciplined in defence and hard to break down, the expierence their lads had of playing in Croke park helped. Crokes could in the right places, SN gave needless frees away within scoring distance those fine margins win championships and that's what Crokes did today.

Club football is wholly different to county football and because lads are blaming at more a spectrum of fitness and conditioning, more mistakes and bad decisions are made.

Forget the spectacle and the Gooch, the gesture by the Crokes team to young Aoife O Connor is what GAA in the community is all about and stole the show today a magnificent well done to Crokes for that I imagine it touched the whole country.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 17/03/2017 19:58:37    1967952

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Replying To rossy15:  "Gooch turned down frees all day long until what he thought would have been the last kick of the game and he still put it wide
N saying that Still glad to see him win his medal bit he doesn't have the bottle of say a Michael Murphy or a sean cavanagh
As for the last 5 minutes ... the less said the better !"
The problem with the last 5min was S/N were still playing extra men bk. how do a team not push up on there men when they are behind and only 5 min left. Northern teams have ruined football and other teams had no choicebut to follow suit if they want to win.

mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 17/03/2017 20:02:03    1967955

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "Great for Gooch and congrats to all involved, but the way that game was won was drastic."
ya do what you have to do. Good losers are never remembered.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/03/2017 20:03:11    1967956

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im glad the gooch has a medal to complete his collection before he retires. but i thought the ref and his official's decisions were absolutely puzzling today. I attended the first round of the munster club, crokes and kib of clare and crokes targeted the 2 best forwards of the opposition and just continually fouled them when the game was in the melting pot with no sanction. i also seen all crokes games all the way to the all ireland final and the theme continued..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 17/03/2017 20:04:13    1967957

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Replying To Iamlegion666:  "Lazy post, there are nine provinces and countless club teams, my own club would have been beaten like SN today because they wouldn't have the lack of gamesmanship like a lot of Kerry teams."
Because at all levels of the game Ulster teams always set up massed defences and unfortunately with the rules the only way to defeat it is to mirror it as Dublin found out and learned from in 2014

SNeil just like Donegal Vs Dublin (with 2 extra men!!!!) and ourselves in 14 needing a Goal still refused to trust their FB Line to defend 1 on 1 and opted to accept defeat which is a very sad indictment

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 17/03/2017 20:12:50    1967958

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Congrats to Crokes on their win. The Derry team put in a great first half and seemed to have set up a winning position until their midfielder had a rush of blood to the head and rightfully got red carded. You would have to admire their effort in the second half with 14 men, but Crokes made very intelligent use of the extra man by playing a running game. Last five minutes were ugly to watch but every team would do it. I thought that the ref had a poor game and let Crokes away with persistent pulling and dragging throughout the game. The full back and centre half back for S'neil seemed to suffer most from this ploy.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/03/2017 20:17:29    1967962

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "And what would someone from Roscommon know about bottle or winning?"
Ha And if that's ur best come back . Point proven boy !

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 616 - 17/03/2017 20:17:41    1967963

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Sure he has more medals than either, I doubt he gives a sh#te what some bregrudger like you thinks."
Far from a begrudger and as I said I'm glad he won his club medal
Nice classy post from u truth hurts as they say !

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 616 - 17/03/2017 20:20:08    1967965

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*Apologies

Amy O' Connor

Well done Crokes regardless.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 17/03/2017 20:22:34    1967966

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Replying To KYTotalFootball:  "Because at all levels of the game Ulster teams always set up massed defences and unfortunately with the rules the only way to defeat it is to mirror it as Dublin found out and learned from in 2014

SNeil just like Donegal Vs Dublin (with 2 extra men!!!!) and ourselves in 14 needing a Goal still refused to trust their FB Line to defend 1 on 1 and opted to accept defeat which is a very sad indictment"
Nope my club doesn't, any other lies to showcase your lack of knowledge?

Iamlegion666 (Monaghan) - Posts: 285 - 17/03/2017 20:24:16    1967969

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I'd more muscles at 14 than some of those Slaughtneil featherweights.
Cross would have easily crushed Crokes.

Dessie_Cross (Armagh) - Posts: 142 - 17/03/2017 20:26:13    1967970

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Ya that's what you have to laugh at, these fellas saying it's a disgrace Crokes retaining posession for the last few minutes instead of kicking in a 50/50 ball to a pack of opposition defenders!!! WHERE WERE THE OPPOSITION???!!!

If Slaughtneil won doing the same, these posters would be going ape crap on here.

A joke, but let them b#itch Crokes have finally had there day.

Gooch your some man!"
Deflection, Hermit, but does not fool anyone.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 17/03/2017 20:26:45    1967971

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