National - Division 2 2017

Ah I hope Meath do well myself Richie, just think RD is setting yis up for a fall with all the big talk, completely unreasonable to think yis'll immediately improve to the extent RD believes.

It's absolutely arrogance to think only one other team is good enough to get promoted from Division 2.

Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:11139 - 17/01/2017 18:49:24   1946453

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Replying To Breffni39:  "[quote=royaldunne:  "[quote=Breffni39:  "Even taking off my green tinted glasses, I can't see why Meath wont gain promotion, who along with them is the question.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10072 - 17/01/2017 14:43:01 1946330



Oh man, that is a real doozy"
Are you looking at the division 2 thread to see what awaits you next near ??"]No"]Why not? Its always good to be informed.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11166 - 17/01/2017 18:50:42   1946455

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Replying To neverright:  "Meath and Kildale to go down. Any of the other teams capable of getting promoted - may depend on the number of home games they have."
If I were a Rossie supporter I would be more worried about your chances of surviving in Division 1 than whether Meath or Kildare will survive in Division 2 considering both teams have beaten Roscommon in pre season challenges.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts:2642 - 17/01/2017 19:08:24   1946463

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Replying To Richieq:  "With a username like that forgive me if I don't rush to the bookies with your predictions......"
Oops! Sorry, didn't mean to hit a nerve.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:754 - 17/01/2017 19:15:21   1946466

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Replying To lilywhite1:  "If I were a Rossie supporter I would be more worried about your chances of surviving in Division 1 than whether Meath or Kildare will survive in Division 2 considering both teams have beaten Roscommon in pre season challenges."
Oh! I am worried about our survival in D1 but winning pre-season challenges is hardly a pointer to how your season will go. However, I wish your team well and if you hang on in D2 we might be meeting next year.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:754 - 17/01/2017 19:24:05   1946467

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Replying To neverright:  "Oops! Sorry, didn't mean to hit a nerve."
No nerve hit at all horse, just some lighthearted banter, it's only January my nerves don't become sensitive until April when the smell of cut grass returns to the air.....

Richieq (Meath) - Posts:2797 - 17/01/2017 19:26:45   1946468

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Ah I hope Meath do well myself Richie, just think RD is setting yis up for a fall with all the big talk, completely unreasonable to think yis'll immediately improve to the extent RD believes.

It's absolutely arrogance to think only one other team is good enough to get promoted from Division 2."
Personally, and being honest, I think promotion is achievable although it was also achievable during O'Dowd's time and we finished third twice in the last three years in the division, even last year we might have only ended up on 6 points but we should have beaten Cavan, Galway and Derry but for inexplicable and inexcusable ability to see a game out which would have yielded another 4 points leaving us on 10 and would have promoted us ahead of Cavan so it's not that we haven't had opportunities. We need Division 1 football and if we did achieve that this year it would nearly do me as I would see that as real progress although I would see a Leinster Final appearance as very desireable also but we have to learn to walk again before we can run and the League should be our number one priority in terms of improving the players we have by playing the top teams more regularly, our mental weaknesses are a major issue and must be addressed forthwith, I won't worry toknmich over the

Richieq (Meath) - Posts:2797 - 17/01/2017 19:36:06   1946472

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Div Two is wide open, will be a real dog fight, may come down to head to heads and scoring difference to decide who goes up and who drops. No easy games, Kildare look to have embraced attacking football (8-50 in last few games, is impressive even for O Byrne Cup). Hopefully Andy Mac can get the best out of Meath (even if there is some fellow knows another fellow who does not rate him) and we are in position to challenge for promotion over last few games.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts:833 - 17/01/2017 20:39:25   1946488

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Replying To Richieq:  "Personally, and being honest, I think promotion is achievable although it was also achievable during O'Dowd's time and we finished third twice in the last three years in the division, even last year we might have only ended up on 6 points but we should have beaten Cavan, Galway and Derry but for inexplicable and inexcusable ability to see a game out which would have yielded another 4 points leaving us on 10 and would have promoted us ahead of Cavan so it's not that we haven't had opportunities. We need Division 1 football and if we did achieve that this year it would nearly do me as I would see that as real progress although I would see a Leinster Final appearance as very desireable also but we have to learn to walk again before we can run and the League should be our number one priority in terms of improving the players we have by playing the top teams more regularly, our mental weaknesses are a major issue and must be addressed forthwith, I won't worry toknmich over the"
Don't agree. Championship should be the number one priority.

League isn't all that important. You're playing in bad weather against teams with varying degrees of commitment to the competition, often using it to try and look at players.

It's a bit of a starter for the season, but the main course is all that matters.

Getting to the latter stages of the All Ireland playing top teams in late July and August is much more beneficial to a teams progress.

If Meath make a Leinster final they'd have a last 12 match to go up against a top team with everything to play for.

"The league is the priority " is a massive cliche.

Meaths priority this season should be to not lose to anyone outside of Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Mayo and to a lesser extent Cork and Donegal. That'd take you seriously far along the road.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:1440 - 17/01/2017 20:56:38   1946495

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Meath to go down
Any of the other 7 could win and promoted but meath

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts:798 - 17/01/2017 20:57:27   1946496

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Replying To neverright:  "Oh! I am worried about our survival in D1 but winning pre-season challenges is hardly a pointer to how your season will go. However, I wish your team well and if you hang on in D2 we might be meeting next year."
We may indeed. Good luck in the League.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts:2642 - 17/01/2017 21:12:55   1946501

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Meath to go down
Any of the other 7 could win and promoted but meath"
Ahh why dont want to face us in division 2 next year? After all even rossies would admit you were pox lucky to get out of the kip with a win, we had to hit 22 wides and give you a goal to scrape by . Dont worry u wont be in our division just keep that seat that we will be taking from U warm for us.
Hon the Royal

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11166 - 17/01/2017 21:30:33   1946506

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Was talking to an Offaly lad who was at the recent OBC game against Kildare. He was realy impressed with the size and athletism of Kildare. This is an aspect were Meath really struggle.At underage Meath have only started to do weights,gym work etc since last year.I still think that the senior squad overall needs to bulk up.Most dv1 teams have a physical presence and mental toughness.I believe McEntee is the right man to lead Meath,but it could take 3 years for him to see big improvements.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:6988 - 17/01/2017 17:16:31


Strangely enough I would have said this is one of the least physically imposing KIldare teams of the last 20 years.. Its a very young team

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts:209 - 17/01/2017 21:31:13   1946507

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Replying To OhtobeARossie:  "Meath to go down
Any of the other 7 could win and promoted but meath"
Btw otbar. Happy new year to you me auld friend. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11166 - 17/01/2017 21:46:36   1946514

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ahh why dont want to face us in division 2 next year? After all even rossies would admit you were pox lucky to get out of the kip with a win, we had to hit 22 wides and give you a goal to scrape by . Dont worry u wont be in our division just keep that seat that we will be taking from U warm for us.
Hon the Royal"
I think the wide count was actually Toscommon 16 Meath 12 but the Meath Goalie gifted us a goal.
Meath need serious changes to their mental approach if they want do anything this year. A bit too soft and can't afford to throw away leads like they have in past few years

Cuckoosinging (Roscommon) - Posts:276 - 17/01/2017 22:01:40   1946520

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Galway with management & panel in their third year together are expected to win promotion this year, most would see an All Irl semi final as a must as well. Gary Sice slated the previous management team so anything other than promotion & semi final will have been no improvement. Realistically its between Meath, Cork & Galway, Meath with a new manager will take time to settle into their new tactics & trying new players & Cork have had 3 managers in four years, a lot of guys retired, relegated in 2016, beaten in C'ship by Tipp for first time in 70 yrs & the Rossies hammered them in the league, so Galway with a settled squad & management for 3 years have to be favourites. There is a massive ammount of talent been produced by the clubs (not through co squads) that Galway will be hot favourites for U21 in Connacht & reaching an U21 final & Seniors winning promotion from Div 2 & an All Irl semi final.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts:378 - 17/01/2017 22:12:45   1946525

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Galway with management & panel in their third year together are expected to win promotion this year, most would see an All Irl semi final as a must as well. Gary Sice slated the previous management team so anything other than promotion & semi final will have been no improvement. Realistically its between Meath, Cork & Galway, Meath with a new manager will take time to settle into their new tactics & trying new players & Cork have had 3 managers in four years, a lot of guys retired, relegated in 2016, beaten in C'ship by Tipp for first time in 70 yrs & the Rossies hammered them in the league, so Galway with a settled squad & management for 3 years have to be favourites. There is a massive ammount of talent been produced by the clubs (not through co squads) that Galway will be hot favourites for U21 in Connacht & reaching an U21 final & Seniors winning promotion from Div 2 & an All Irl semi final."
I am with you on that - it is between Galway, Cork and Meath for promotion.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts:2333 - 17/01/2017 22:36:09   1946530

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Btw otbar. Happy new year to you me auld friend. :)"
Happy new year RD settle down till round 4 of the league ur getting far to excited.
Enjoy it but calm down we learned last year it's a marathon not a sprint.

OhtobeARossie (Roscommon) - Posts:798 - 17/01/2017 22:46:35   1946532

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Replying To Kingoreilly:  "There's plenty of potential in both Kildare and Meath, both have improved underage in the last 5 years in particular Kildare, both have large gaa playing populations and both have good management teams, so yes both have realistic chances of promotion and one of them if not both will be challenging for the all Ireland sooner rather then later"
WHAT?

an all Ireland?

Maybe try win a Leinster title first. Kildare have had 1 final apperance in 14 years so good look winning an all ireland. Meath maybe if the get very very very lucky

MapleDoire (Derry) - Posts:22 - 17/01/2017 23:25:52   1946539

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I dont like the Meath Kildare love in going on here. Cut it out.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts:401 - 18/01/2017 08:47:03   1946566

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