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Replying To GreenandRed: "Give him a break. Not easy to post here and say he has a problem. Maybe give him a chance from now on and if it's still happening say it. But less abruptly ?" GNR this gone on for years probably and nothing has changed. I don't think its reasonable to expect all of us to pander to one posters demands regardless of how offensive he incorrectly perceives it to be. This wont help anyone.
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Also, the forum is anonymous. I'm not suggesting he's lying but it's actually extremely easy to come out and say anything.
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Replying To Breffni39: "GNR this gone on for years probably and nothing has changed. I don't think its reasonable to expect all of us to pander to one posters demands regardless of how offensive he incorrectly perceives it to be. This wont help anyone." True. It won't. It's annoying for some posters and it's up to Ormond to do something about it. But maybe his post might in some way explain his actions, it's up to everyone how they reply to such posts.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 10/01/2017 16:03:05
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Replying To GreenandRed: "True. It won't. It's annoying for some posters and it's up to Ormond to do something about it. But maybe his post might in some way explain his actions, it's up to everyone how they reply to such posts." G&R have you seen the post Ormond directed at Tribe that kick-started all this? Essentially as rude as you like, to a poster who's never been anything other than decent to him and in fact everybody else. Then when he was called out on it by other posters, he reverts back to the never ending story; his user name, and questions why people don't take this matter as seriously. He's now said that he apologised to Tribe, which isn't true.
I don't shorten his name and never have, like you say it's up to each poster what line they wish to follow but returning to this thread to bump it up over such an incredibly minor issue is IMO attention seeking and an attempt to deflect from his own behaviour and it's actually working, he's getting the sympathy vote when he was the protagonist.
If the worst thing in someone's life is their name (not even their real name) being abbreviated on a message board then that life has been sheltered and that person should be grateful for it.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 10/01/2017 16:32:32
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Replying To MedwayIrish: "G&R have you seen the post Ormond directed at Tribe that kick-started all this? Essentially as rude as you like, to a poster who's never been anything other than decent to him and in fact everybody else. Then when he was called out on it by other posters, he reverts back to the never ending story; his user name, and questions why people don't take this matter as seriously. He's now said that he apologised to Tribe, which isn't true.
I don't shorten his name and never have, like you say it's up to each poster what line they wish to follow but returning to this thread to bump it up over such an incredibly minor issue is IMO attention seeking and an attempt to deflect from his own behaviour and it's actually working, he's getting the sympathy vote when he was the protagonist.
If the worst thing in someone's life is their name (not even their real name) being abbreviated on a message board then that life has been sheltered and that person should be grateful for it." I did see those posts at Tribe, Medway, and thought they were very severe. And some over-the-top replies to ither posters too. It's true that we it's strange a trivial thing might get someone stressed. Sounds a bit like a type of OCD, I don't know? There's only one person who knows what it is and try and address it.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 10/01/2017 16:43:53
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Replying To MedwayIrish: "Have you been following the threads outside of the main forum at all?" no. maybe you could direct me then .. apologies breff
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 10/01/2017 17:53:37
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Finished reading born to run by the boss springstein and was amazed that for most of his playing career he has battled mental health problems which also affected his father.
Todays society lives by a different culture than previous generations with the demand for information ec at the touch of a button. People stickin selfies of this that and the other on titter looking for comments and complaining if not all are complimentary pics of their dinner, lunch, breakfast, look at me I'm in the gym this types of thing really cheeses me off. For these reasons ive quit all social media got rid of the mobile and only read these pages and sometimes comment.
Having been to the edge and actually went over and brought back literally from death I know all about the effects of mental illness on ones self and their immediate family and know that it is a constant struggle. Medication is ok but can get addictive and mask other problems but as a phone company used as their slogan its good to talk. Social media accounts can be lonely places you can have hundreds even thousands of friends/ followers but ultimately no one to talk to.
MY sympathies and thoughts go out to those struggling and I know from friends working in the heath/ mental health field { who did not pick up on my signals looking for help but couldn't put it in words to say or ask } and they believe we are sitting on a time bomb with the perfect storm brewing across the island with government cuts and incompetence.
I can't / wont judge Ormond bannerman { it would be easy just to shorten the title without trying to cause offence only handiness } that he suffers from mental health issues as I know very little can trigger a reaction. I don't wish to cause offence with this but The thing which pisses me off especially with so called celebs etc is their constant need for attention and lately the new in thing is I was raped/abused when I was younger or making my way through chosen career without ever having made complaint to the law which is disparaging and disrespectful to true victims and casts a cloud on those requesting /needing help.
I believe that a lot of our young sports people could fall into serious health issues in years to come with the constant demands on their time, no personal life to share with friends and family due to the fixtures and training schedules placed upon them which in its self can be as addictive as any drug and when that comes to an end what do/will they turn to. I think its imperative of the gaa/gpa to ensure that along with all this physical training that they should provide some form of mental health training to help players cope with the end of playing careers.
Anyhow for those suffering in silence please seek help from someone close to you or from the relevant people. its never too late.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 10/01/2017 18:12:23
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gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 10/01/2017 19:15:10
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Fair play Ormond. I honestly think people don't mean to be unkind. Unfortunately, I mean no-one here, some people can be a bit cruel and get their kicks from someone else's reaction to them jibing them, probably not having a clue what's going on in the other person's head. Keep your chin up even if it's difficult to do so.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 10:19:10 I'm people didn't mean to be unkind then why the lack of calling me by something I find inoffensive??
Thanks very much for the nice post.
I appreciate your difficulties Ormo and wish you the best with them, but you need to tackle your own issues with "name-calling". If you're expecting the whole world to change to suit you it will always be a problem.
It's not even your name anyway, so you've created this issue all by yourself.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 10:49:30 If you wish me the best then call me Ormond. I am tackling my own issues and I'm not expecting "the whole world to change", I'm expecting a few dozen people on a web forum to not call me offensive names. I didn't at all create this issue by myself. You and all other bullies have done that. I have acted poorly on this forum and what I said to tribe was wrong and I apologised but what you have done to me is worse in the long run with your deliberate name calling
There is just no need for this comment man. Whether or not you genuinely believe what you are saying, you still know Ormond struggles with this issue and you still hound him. Bad form.
waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:11748 - 10/01/2017 11:14:37 sound waynoI you are always one of the more considering and open minded posters here
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2017 19:42:07
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Give him a break. Not easy to post here and say he has a problem. Maybe give him a chance from now on and if it's still happening say it. But less abruptly ?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 13:14:55sound. I have acted poorly here but that is much because my defences have been raised due to things that irritate me and increase my anxiety
GNR this gone on for years probably and nothing has changed. I don't think its reasonable to expect all of us to pander to one posters demands regardless of how offensive he incorrectly perceives it to be. This wont help anyone.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:40:02Its not a perception. Its the truth. My name here is Ormond. Yours is breffni. If everyone deliberately called you something you found offensive and ill judged you wouldn't like it so why should I have to accept it?
Also, the forum is anonymous. I'm not suggesting he's lying but it's actually extremely easy to come out and say anything.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:48:37 Ive been a day patient in St Pats in Dublin, attended counselling in university and with many counsellors. I would never lie about such a serious issue. Ive had too many close friends and neighbours commit suicide to lie about this.
To suggest I am lying is horrendous
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True. It won't. It's annoying for some posters and it's up to Ormond to do something about it. But maybe his post might in some way explain his actions, it's up to everyone how they reply to such posts.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 16:03:05 thanks. sound.
G&R have you seen the post Ormond directed at Tribe that kick-started all this? Essentially as rude as you like, to a poster who's never been anything other than decent to him and in fact everybody else. Then when he was called out on it by other posters, he reverts back to the never ending story; his user name, and questions why people don't take this matter as seriously. He's now said that he apologised to Tribe, which isn't true.
I don't shorten his name and never have, like you say it's up to each poster what line they wish to follow but returning to this thread to bump it up over such an incredibly minor issue is IMO attention seeking and an attempt to deflect from his own behaviour and it's actually working, he's getting the sympathy vote when he was the protagonist.
If the worst thing in someone's life is their name (not even their real name) being abbreviated on a message board then that life has been sheltered and that person should be grateful for it.
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:1617 - 10/01/2017 16:32:32 and I apologised to tribe and this whole thing has been building for months. I apologised to tribe.
There is many now jumping to have a go at me and that's all they want. To have a pop at me.
I BUMPED this thread as I wanted to explain why I get so anxious/wound up by something that appears extremely trivial.
My social anxiety makes me have obsessive thoughts about things that people In general never have. There is elements of it detracting from my own behaviour but that is the pain that anxiety is.
I do not live a sheltered life at all. But if asking to be respected by being called an inoffensive name is living a sheltered life then so be it.
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I did see those posts at Tribe, Medway, and thought they were very severe. And some over-the-top replies to ither posters too. It's true that we it's strange a trivial thing might get someone stressed. Sounds a bit like a type of OCD, I don't know? There's only one person who knows what it is and try and address it.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 16:43:53 I have Social Anxiety. Social Anxiety is a form of anxiety like OCD, Panic Disorder and PTSD. It does seem trivial to be stressed about but its something I obsess and worry about.
I wish I didn't post all these posts complaining about why people call me 'ormo' but when somebody calls me 'ormo' I feel compelled to reply. I wish I didn't as this wouldn't have ever happened if I did just ignore it but I simply cant ignore it.
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 10/01/2017 19:55:26
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Genuine mental health issues shouldn't be belittled like this imo.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 10/01/2017 19:57:25
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Replying To MesAmis: "Genuine mental health issues shouldn't be belittled like this imo." What do you consider genuine?
Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 10/01/2017 20:20:29
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "I did see those posts at Tribe, Medway, and thought they were very severe. And some over-the-top replies to ither posters too. It's true that we it's strange a trivial thing might get someone stressed. Sounds a bit like a type of OCD, I don't know? There's only one person who knows what it is and try and address it.
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 16:43:53 I have Social Anxiety. Social Anxiety is a form of anxiety like OCD, Panic Disorder and PTSD. It does seem trivial to be stressed about but its something I obsess and worry about.
I wish I didn't post all these posts complaining about why people call me 'ormo' but when somebody calls me 'ormo' I feel compelled to reply. I wish I didn't as this wouldn't have ever happened if I did just ignore it but I simply cant ignore it." When was the last time you were even called ormo? Its a long time since anyone has. The attack on tribe was completely uncalled for.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 10/01/2017 21:05:35
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I think ormondbannerman has been very open about his traits, so he should be respected and accepted as he is.
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Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Hope admin allows this be great to start a thread on mental health and suicide awareness
I suffer from depression. Thank God I am doing well , Pieta House is very good as are a lot of other charities .
If allowed up I will put up some of my experiences to help others and break the stigma .
Regards
Dellboy" Glad to hear your keeping well Dellboy. It was very admirable of you to share your story that way. Your absolutely right in what you say about the GAA community being there for you at a time of need. I had a close friend and a family member who took their own lives which effected me badly at the time and without the support of my club mates who couldn't do enough for me, who knows where I'd be.
I'm also glad to hear your back training and keeping fit. I'm a great believer that healthy food and exercise is better for your mental well being than anything that your doctor can prescribe for you. Of course I still indulge from time to time, about 2 weeks worth over Christmas for start! but I know from experience that I'm at my best when I'm training and eating right.
Good luck and be well lad.
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Give him a break. Not easy to post here and say he has a problem. Maybe give him a chance from now on and if it's still happening say it. But less abruptly ?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 13:14:55sound. I have acted poorly here but that is much because my defences have been raised due to things that irritate me and increase my anxiety
GNR this gone on for years probably and nothing has changed. I don't think its reasonable to expect all of us to pander to one posters demands regardless of how offensive he incorrectly perceives it to be. This wont help anyone.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:40:02Its not a perception. Its the truth. My name here is Ormond. Yours is breffni. If everyone deliberately called you something you found offensive and ill judged you wouldn't like it so why should I have to accept it?
Also, the forum is anonymous. I'm not suggesting he's lying but it's actually extremely easy to come out and say anything.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:48:37 Ive been a day patient in St Pats in Dublin, attended counselling in university and with many counsellors. I would never lie about such a serious issue. Ive had too many close friends and neighbours commit suicide to lie about this.
To suggest I am lying is horrendous" I specifically did not suggest you are lying.
You have called me a bully, hypocrite, troll and many other names I'm sure. I've called you Ormo.
Go figure.
Has your counsellor ever linked your perceived offence in harmless nicknames and people contradicting you? Seems to be a significant crossover to me.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12118 - 11/01/2017 20:52:22
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Replying To Breffni39: " Replying To ormondbannerman: "Give him a break. Not easy to post here and say he has a problem. Maybe give him a chance from now on and if it's still happening say it. But less abruptly ?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts:3168 - 10/01/2017 13:14:55sound. I have acted poorly here but that is much because my defences have been raised due to things that irritate me and increase my anxiety
GNR this gone on for years probably and nothing has changed. I don't think its reasonable to expect all of us to pander to one posters demands regardless of how offensive he incorrectly perceives it to be. This wont help anyone.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:40:02Its not a perception. Its the truth. My name here is Ormond. Yours is breffni. If everyone deliberately called you something you found offensive and ill judged you wouldn't like it so why should I have to accept it?
Also, the forum is anonymous. I'm not suggesting he's lying but it's actually extremely easy to come out and say anything.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10764 - 10/01/2017 14:48:37 Ive been a day patient in St Pats in Dublin, attended counselling in university and with many counsellors. I would never lie about such a serious issue. Ive had too many close friends and neighbours commit suicide to lie about this.
To suggest I am lying is horrendous" I specifically did not suggest you are lying. You have called me a bully, hypocrite, troll and many other names I'm sure. I've called you Ormo. Go figure. Has your counsellor ever linked your perceived offence in harmless nicknames and people contradicting you? Seems to be a significant crossover to me."
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Replying To Dubh_linn: "What do you consider genuine?" A poster abusively attacks another poster on a different thread and then when he gets called on it decides to make it about perceived abuse he's received despite the fact that he didn't receive any of the perceived abuse from the poster he attacked.
It belittled the point of the thread and was very crass in my opinion.
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