So they referee issued 3 black card today two of them correct and one wrong in my opinion. Connolly and Maher where 100% black cards. Lyne on the other hand was a difficult one to call for the referee but it was a high tackle not a pull down should have been yellow.
The other black card missed was Brian Fenton a deliberate body collide and issued a yellow 100% wrong decision. Was a difficult game to referee both McMahon and McCarthy should have seen red for striking actions also Donnacha walsh could have walked for hands in the face of McCarthy. Tough game to ref but issuing of the yellow card instead of a black for Fenton won't go unnoticed by the assessor.

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 09/04/2017 19:22:18    1977567

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 09/04/2017 21:46:08    1977659

If there ever was an advertisement for getting rid of the black card it wax there today. Maher was as cynical as anything that went before..you could see him at the end he knew he was off with a black but all he was interested was were the free would be spotted...the ball should be brought forward 20mtrs for a cynical foul.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 09/04/2017 22:27:04    1977683

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 09/04/2017 22:29:27    1977685

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 09/04/2017 23:23:57    1977706

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 10/04/2017 10:30:09    1977807

Simple fact of the matter is the black card whilst good in concept is not being used correctly or consistently. I think it is time to review it to see if it is fit for purpose. I really think a system of carrying yellows should come into play and once a player passes a number of yellows he should serve a ban . At this stage I am in favour of getting rid of it but an equally problematic issue is the lack of assistance being provided from linesmen and umpires to the man in the middle. How he can be expected to see everything is beyond me. In relation to yesterday, yes kerry deserved their victory, they showed a great hunger and desire than Dublin but still fell across the line and with a little luck Dublin could have been awarded a penalty. Connolly is too often involved in things like this and whilst he is a marvellous player and looked to be in form yesterday having him consistently not seeing out games is of no benefit to Dublin. Really needs to address how he reacts or gets involved in things. On Donncha Walsh I counted five high tackles in the first 20 minutes of the game, in my opinion he should have walked before half time as I also watched him consistently foul james mccarthy before kick outs. So there is no point in Fitzmaurice or anyone from kerry highlighting incidents carried out by Dublin when Kerry are pretty decent at it too. Did we learn anything from yesterday for latter in the year. I suppose a victory for kerry will give them a little confidence but they didn't see out the game well and that will worry them. Again when Dublin went at them with a little more pace in the team they were vunerable. Gavin has some big calls to make, who partners fenton, is flynn a starter or is there a better wing forward option and definitely a full forward line of rock, brogan and andrews is not the answer as they don't have the pace. Hard to know where Dublin are at , they are a team on the road for nearly 7 years so time is against them, however they should be stronger with cooper, mccaffrey, costello and o'callaghan involved. Kerry as usual will be thereabouts and could come on for the win but I am not so sure if they have much more in them, James O' Donoghue will make them stronger up front. I don't believe either team are that far ahead of 3 or 4 other teams and before either gets to an all-ireland final they could be taken out of the championship. It's all too play for but I wouldn't accept a changing of the guard on the evidence of yesterday and let's be honest Dublin were bound to lose a final at some stage.

Adamski (Dublin) - Posts: 339 - 10/04/2017 11:32:58    1977856

The black card is actually a beneifit to teams giving one away at the end of a game.
take yesterday when Maher hauled fitzimons down, fitzimons wanted to get on with and take the free as the foul was outisde 45 line. The ref stopped it to call later aside and card him,which ment when the time the free was allowed be taken it had to go directly over, whereas if the black card wasn't given fitzimons could have found a forward and let him have a better chance from closer to goal.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 10/04/2017 13:52:41    1977966

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 10/04/2017 20:20:26    1978124

GAA rule book is a hybred language none more so than the short sentences associated with the black card (for blackguards). For instance to deliberately pull down now what exactly is involved in pulling down an opponent? just to be clear the GAA even gave us a graphic to tell us. Yet all i see are players knocking down opponents specifically attempting to slap ball from behind and player goes down - that is a foul NOT a yellow and not a black but yet time and again I see black cards. Truly incoherent rules

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 10/04/2017 21:47:25    1978169

I have said before that cynical fouls should be punished by a yellow card and award of 21 yard free directly in front of the posts.

Cynical fouls denying a clear goal scoring opportunity, though outside the large square, should be punished by a yellow card and award of a penalty so that the attacking team retains a clear goal scoring opportunity.

It's something that is not too uncommon in world sport. Rugby awards penalty tries. Basketball has some team foul count or something like that that results in a free shot in front of the basket though a foul might occur further back the court.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7824 - 12/04/2017 18:09:21    1978877

For Con O Callaghan to miss the whole game for that tells you how wrong the rule is, then Mcbrearty nearly takes the Dublin lads head off and only gets a yellow, I don't want to see anyone leave the field but to see that today just shows how crazy the rules are.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/04/2017 20:06:56    1979695

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 15/04/2017 21:14:59    1979715

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/04/2017 21:28:30    1979721

Just to say firstly. I am against the black card and cynicism of some sort is in every single sport.

Diarmuid Connolly said it not long after the all ireland final replay that the black card is a joke.
And what he said made complete sense.

He said a cynical foul is punished with a yellow card and ya get one more chance at that and if so you got a red (second yellow)

He said the rule they should have brought in was a straight red card for stopping a clear goal-scoring opportunity, which I think would be spot on.

Can anyone actually give me an example of a game where 3 black cards caused a so called cynical team to lose a match due to inferiority of numbers.

Frederick (Louth) - Posts: 479 - 16/04/2017 01:21:11    1979771

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 16/04/2017 11:30:08    1979806

Galway second goal in the hurling semi final today saw two clear black carding offences(if it was in hurling) he tryed everything in his power to cynically stop him getting the shot on goal but the player still scored and the ref didn't give him any card at all after you just have to wonder how we have gone completely different directions on officiating the games.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 16/04/2017 18:19:05    1979908

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 16/04/2017 18:53:50    1979921

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 16/04/2017 19:28:59    1979936

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 16/04/2017 19:58:50    1979942