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Division 2 2017

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Good Galway crowd there yesterday.
Look perhaps it does mean more to us giving what's gone before.
The one thing I don't get is the not ready for division one, we beat Galway yet they are ready , cork are having serious trouble but there ready same with Kildare their ready. If you get promoted your ready, simple.
Btw kil, that's not aimed at you just included it in this post."
Agree, i hate reading this rubbish, we are not ready for div 1, "The dubs would trounce us".... How will we ever know? Id love to be playing Dublin under lights at Croker on a Sat night. Id love to see Michael Daly, Damian Comer etc playing against the big boys.. If we were up next year id fancy giving Mayo, Monaghan, Kerry, and the other promoted team a game in div 1.. So its the same for any other team vying for promotion, and sure if we were to get up and come back down, what do you do? You try again and again........

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 07/03/2017 07:27:27    1964900

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Replying To royal7:  "He honestly has a problem with us I'm sure I've seen him ref a lot more meath games since 2007 than you ..as I said he wasint as bad as normal but that was a clear black card when meath man dragged down midway through second half..yez deserved a draw I thought tbh. Meath Galway games are always crackers and would of congratulated yez too but by God did we need that win !"
I would guess we all can target refs and in many cases when it suits. Some counties worse than others. Galway football folk in the main don't moan from my experience. I would lose count the number of times over the last decade when we were miffed by the ref but pointless really as cannot alter what went before. Disappointing thing for us last Sunday is that we kicked 5 second half points from huge distance (an art lost in the game) but could not seal the deal. Anyway the trajectory is still upwards.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 07/03/2017 19:21:11    1965201

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I'd say any team in division two with half a chance to go up would take it, look at Monaghan they moved from division 3 to division one and were they ready, they were and continue to show real bottle. It's time for Galway to get back up there and if we made it it would be fantastic, and Clare like why would they have any interest in hanging around division two? Clare like Kildare have less chance of winning a provincial so they should aim to get up for future progress. As for Fermanagh conceding 4 goals, not having a go but Kildare scored 3 against Meath so credit where it's due.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 08/03/2017 03:05:26    1965310

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Agree, i hate reading this rubbish, we are not ready for div 1, "The dubs would trounce us".... How will we ever know? Id love to be playing Dublin under lights at Croker on a Sat night. Id love to see Michael Daly, Damian Comer etc playing against the big boys.. If we were up next year id fancy giving Mayo, Monaghan, Kerry, and the other promoted team a game in div 1.. So its the same for any other team vying for promotion, and sure if we were to get up and come back down, what do you do? You try again and again........"
my thoughts exactly, bet our lads would do well against div 1 teams

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1669 - 08/03/2017 10:34:55    1965346

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We did alright against Roscommon and Mayo last Summer

garlicbread (Galway) - Posts: 17 - 08/03/2017 13:05:23    1965406

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Why wouldn't any team take their chance to get to Division 1 ? From Kildare's point of view, there's a young team (I think only 3 lads over 25 have started in each of the games to date) there that would learn loads in Division 1, even if they did come back down.
It was always going to be a tight division. Kildare are looking good so far but Down away looks like a lot harder game now than you would have thought a couple of weeks ago so no-one in Kildare will be taking anything for granted.
Hard to imagine Cork dropping to division 3 but they need a win badly or that's starting to look likely.

KildareKelly (Kildare) - Posts: 593 - 08/03/2017 14:01:44    1965432

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I would agree with the other posters in relation to promotion. Take what we get when we can. Isn't it better to be fighting it out in Division 1 than stuck in Division 2. Teams could just as easily have a poorer league next year in Division 2 and end up being stuck there or worse.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 08/03/2017 14:12:57    1965435

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Replying To Belclare1:  "Agree, i hate reading this rubbish, we are not ready for div 1, "The dubs would trounce us".... How will we ever know? Id love to be playing Dublin under lights at Croker on a Sat night. Id love to see Michael Daly, Damian Comer etc playing against the big boys.. If we were up next year id fancy giving Mayo, Monaghan, Kerry, and the other promoted team a game in div 1.. So its the same for any other team vying for promotion, and sure if we were to get up and come back down, what do you do? You try again and again........"
Yeah it really irritates me reading that rubbish. What's the point ifs you don't want to test yourself against the best.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 08/03/2017 18:20:17    1965521

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Yes, if you get promotion take it as a huge plus. The mentality to stay in the safety of the 2nd division is not good enough at all. It will mean you will learn how to lose looking good rather than to lose heavily sometimes, but at least progressing all the time.

Cavan will benefit from their stint in the first division, it is very likely that they will get relegated, but if they learn from their experience they will push on again in 2018. Likewise rosscommon. They had a good year last year, much better than the norm.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 09/03/2017 14:10:26    1965682

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Sorry lads I disagree, no point in peaking this time of year like Cavan & Roscommon did last year and then having dreadful championships. Monaghan were Ulster champions in 2013 and then were promoted in 2014 to Div 1. There's plenty of teams gone up to Div 1 in recent years and the majority of them haven't been ready for it and have achieved nothing in the championship.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 09/03/2017 14:52:47    1965698

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Delighted to get a win tonight in brutal conditions at times. Good to get a couple of goals with our two main scoring threats out injured as well.

Could be wrong but I think if we beat Clare next week we're guaranteed promotion and a spot in the final regardless of how we get on against Galway?

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 18/03/2017 21:38:12    1968268

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Replying To if_in_doubt:  "Delighted to get a win tonight in brutal conditions at times. Good to get a couple of goals with our two main scoring threats out injured as well.

Could be wrong but I think if we beat Clare next week we're guaranteed promotion and a spot in the final regardless of how we get on against Galway?"
Yep. Lillies look odds on now. A great achievement given what I saw in your Westmeath championship match last season. O'Neill making his mark on the squad. Today will tell a lot as to who will get tbe 2nd spot.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 19/03/2017 09:56:09    1968397

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Replying To kiloughter:  "Yep. Lillies look odds on now. A great achievement given what I saw in your Westmeath championship match last season. O'Neill making his mark on the squad. Today will tell a lot as to who will get tbe 2nd spot."
Looking like Kildare and Galway at moment, if Meath lose today that's it, should Meath win they keep their hopes alive for another week.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/03/2017 10:22:59    1968410

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It would be great from a Kildare point of view to have this wrapped up before the trip to Salthill. Here's hoping Doyle, Healy and Slattery are available to face Clare next Sunday.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 19/03/2017 10:49:22    1968420

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Replying To beir_bua:  "It would be great from a Kildare point of view to have this wrapped up before the trip to Salthill. Here's hoping Doyle, Healy and Slattery are available to face Clare next Sunday."
The way the results went today means that a draw against Clare in Newbridge next Sunday means that we will be promoted ahead of the Galway game. Meath still in with a chance of promotion. Meath will be keeping an anxious eye on the game in Salthill in two weeks. Depending on next week's results a win for Kildare in Salthill could see Meath promoted along with Kildare.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2989 - 19/03/2017 17:37:55    1968600

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Still a chance for both Meath and Kildare to be promoted

Hats off

Especially to Kildare, showing form.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 19/03/2017 17:46:24    1968610

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Replying To lilywhite1:  "The way the results went today means that a draw against Clare in Newbridge next Sunday means that we will be promoted ahead of the Galway game. Meath still in with a chance of promotion. Meath will be keeping an anxious eye on the game in Salthill in two weeks. Depending on next week's results a win for Kildare in Salthill could see Meath promoted along with Kildare."
Hard to see Kildare taking the Salthill game very seriously if they are already promoted by then. Be a huge surprise now if both Galway and Kildare make the step up.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 19/03/2017 17:46:27    1968611

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Replying To Soma:  "Hard to see Kildare taking the Salthill game very seriously if they are already promoted by then. Be a huge surprise now if both Galway and Kildare make the step up."
Strongly disagree with that way F thinking. A team in winning form will want to keep,that form going and finish on a high. Any team that starts switching off at this time of the year will regret it with the championship around the corner. In fact, with the weight of promotion off them, you might actually see them improve as the nerves are off, while Galway on the other hand will likely be in a make or break situation with all of pressure on.

Should be a cracking game.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 19/03/2017 17:55:10    1968619

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Delighted to see Cian O Neill doing so well with Kildare, he played a big role in his spell with the Kingdom in his 3 years. Hope with their impending promotion they can really kick on

KYTotalFootball (Kerry) - Posts: 280 - 19/03/2017 19:21:56    1968687

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Good to see Kildare starting to show form. It's hard to pinpoint why all the underage potential hasn't come through before now. They seem to be the only realistic challenge to the Dubs in Leinster for the next few years and the rest of us really need them to make our championship meaningful again. I really enjoy watching the current Dubs so nothing against them but i would imagine they would prefer a tough campaign aswell before the quarter finals.

catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 19/03/2017 21:09:01    1968780

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