National - Division 2 2017

Replying To GDL:  "Remember the U21 All Ireland Semi final in the 2013. Kildare arrived with muscle men (McGeeney prototype footballers) and Galway arrived with footballers, who won that day and then the title. Will you ever stop taking us for granted, did you not learn your lesson in 1998."
Galway tend to crack when the pressure comes on but then again Kildare often do as well, think Galway might come undone against Meath and if Kildare need the points in salthill for promotion then I fully expect Kildare to get them

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts:69 - 14/02/2017 12:45:38   1956619

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Replying To Kingoreilly:  "Galway tend to crack when the pressure comes on but then again Kildare often do as well, think Galway might come undone against Meath and if Kildare need the points in salthill for promotion then I fully expect Kildare to get them"
ah ya Kildare for Div 1 , Leinster and even Sam..

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts:807 - 14/02/2017 13:26:07   1956635

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Replying To Belclare1:  "ah ya Kildare for Div 1 , Leinster and even Sam.."
I disagree div 1 yes Leinster and Sam no but thanks for the vote of confidence maybe down the line you could be right

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts:69 - 14/02/2017 14:00:35   1956657

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Replying To Belclare1:  "at the expense of who?"
As it looks at the moment.Galway, and I don't mean disrespect to Galway, but we yet have to play them, win in navan then that's a bonus

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10663 - 14/02/2017 14:10:47   1956665

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Long way to go but I'm amazed anyone from Meath could be talking them up so much, in fairness its only the one poster who's lost the run of himself again. This division in recent years has been littered with teams who have good league campaigns which are not reflective of where their really up to and their championship forms has backed this up. A good year for Meath would be to stay in this division, reach a Leinster Final and then win a round 4 game then aim for promotion next year.

A realistic aim for McEntee will be for Meath to become a top 6 team within 3 years.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts:419 - 14/02/2017 15:14:37   1956696

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From a Galway perspective we have both Clare and Derry at home which you would fancy us to win despite Clare's decent start. We have Down away which should be another win as Down look to be in an awful state this year unfortunately. Those wins would leave Galway on 9 points. The two key games left would be Meath away and Kildare at home in the final round. A win in either of those games would almost certainly be enough for promotion. Possibly even one draw in those games might be enough.

I would make Galway and Kildare favourites currently to go up. Both have already played Cork while Meath still have to travel down to Cork where I think they'll probably be beaten. Cork might even win all their remaining games. Their only tricky one looks a trip to Derry at the end of March.

Long way to go though and there's bound to be a surprise result or two.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts:1340 - 14/02/2017 15:47:44   1956706

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Replying To TheWestIsAwake:  "Long way to go but I'm amazed anyone from Meath could be talking them up so much, in fairness its only the one poster who's lost the run of himself again. This division in recent years has been littered with teams who have good league campaigns which are not reflective of where their really up to and their championship forms has backed this up. A good year for Meath would be to stay in this division, reach a Leinster Final and then win a round 4 game then aim for promotion next year.

A realistic aim for McEntee will be for Meath to become a top 6 team within 3 years."
What you talking about? Andy mcentee has stated time and again his aim is for promotion, what we shouldn't say the same cause it might offend the mighty Galway?? Well without the titans of tipp in division maybe you have a chance, but don't start lecturing anyone on football in Meath. Galway haven't done so good against us in league of late and that was under odowd.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10663 - 14/02/2017 15:53:45   1956711

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Replying To royaldunne:  "What you talking about? Andy mcentee has stated time and again his aim is for promotion, what we shouldn't say the same cause it might offend the mighty Galway?? Well without the titans of tipp in division maybe you have a chance, but don't start lecturing anyone on football in Meath. Galway haven't done so good against us in league of late and that was under odowd."
RD you would want to lighten up. While I would never write off Meath for promotion the facts are that currently ye don't have the quality of player Galway have. Ye have done nothing of note at underage for near on 20 yrs and your clubs have being redundant come the Club championship. Of course these are no gurantee of senior success but they are one yardstick. The Tipp match aside we are on a slow burner although many posters seem to focus a lot on the one very bad day at the office we had last year. I would think my fellow county poster was honest in the sense with a new mgt it will take time for Meath. Realism is a better guide than rose tinted glasses.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1019 - 14/02/2017 17:51:14   1956752

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Replying To royaldunne:  "What you talking about? Andy mcentee has stated time and again his aim is for promotion, what we shouldn't say the same cause it might offend the mighty Galway?? Well without the titans of tipp in division maybe you have a chance, but don't start lecturing anyone on football in Meath. Galway haven't done so good against us in league of late and that was under odowd."
And for what it is worth Meath may very well beat us in Navan and get promotion but in my humble opinion I would think it will be a bonus for your new mgt but for big Kev promotion for us is a near must to progress the development of this squad.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1019 - 14/02/2017 17:59:47   1956753

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Replying To kiloughter:  "RD you would want to lighten up. While I would never write off Meath for promotion the facts are that currently ye don't have the quality of player Galway have. Ye have done nothing of note at underage for near on 20 yrs and your clubs have being redundant come the Club championship. Of course these are no gurantee of senior success but they are one yardstick. The Tipp match aside we are on a slow burner although many posters seem to focus a lot on the one very bad day at the office we had last year. I would think my fellow county poster was honest in the sense with a new mgt it will take time for Meath. Realism is a better guide than rose tinted glasses."
I don't think Galway's prospects for promotion will be hampered in any way by their poor display against Tipperary in last year's championship. The way things are going at the moment the Galway/Kildare game could well be vital to both teams promotion prospects, though it's early days yet. Hard to discount any teams chances of promotion with the probable exception of Derry and Down.

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts:2625 - 14/02/2017 18:27:48   1956762

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Replying To Kingoreilly:  "Galway tend to crack when the pressure comes on but then again Kildare often do as well, think Galway might come undone against Meath and if Kildare need the points in salthill for promotion then I fully expect Kildare to get them"
Royaldunne (kingoreilly) we didn't crack in Navan a couple of weeks ago. Will you stop winding up the tribesmen and concentrare on Meath v Galway. Haven't seen you around the kildare forum lately....

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts:1187 - 14/02/2017 18:30:32   1956763

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Is a player suspended if he gets red card but as two yellows?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:7419 - 14/02/2017 18:52:25   1956773

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I think some people forget that Galway are champions of their province. Beating a team that almost beat the dubs to win sam.

How close are Kildare or Meath to winning Leinster?...

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts:7419 - 14/02/2017 18:56:31   1956776

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Replying To kiloughter:  "RD you would want to lighten up. While I would never write off Meath for promotion the facts are that currently ye don't have the quality of player Galway have. Ye have done nothing of note at underage for near on 20 yrs and your clubs have being redundant come the Club championship. Of course these are no gurantee of senior success but they are one yardstick. The Tipp match aside we are on a slow burner although many posters seem to focus a lot on the one very bad day at the office we had last year. I would think my fellow county poster was honest in the sense with a new mgt it will take time for Meath. Realism is a better guide than rose tinted glasses."
These are just false clichés that are rolled out time and again. Firstly we reached a all ire minor final few years back, beating Mayo and Tyrone along the way, Tyrone are now reaping rewards with many of those younger players, Meath now have many of that team in seniors lead by same manger they had at that time. Also this weekend my own dear club is in all ire final after winning Leinster beating dub champs along way also beating Tyrone and Ulster champion too, they niw play Lee Keegan Westport in final, we are currently operating without u21s who recently won Hastings cup. So to say we don't have any underage or club success is wrong. Btw I'm not having a pop, it's just these lazy clichés that irritate me. We haven't set the world alight at either but we haven't done as bad as people say. Also Meath and Kildare would be two favs for u21 titles this year in Leinster

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10663 - 14/02/2017 18:57:31   1956777

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I think some people forget that Galway are champions of their province. Beating a team that almost beat the dubs to win sam.

How close are Kildare or Meath to winning Leinster?..."
Not this year for certain. Both of us have quite young teams and the dubs will be every bit as strong this year.

St.Conleth (Kildare) - Posts:1187 - 14/02/2017 19:22:04   1956790

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Royaldunne (kingoreilly) we didn't crack in Navan a couple of weeks ago. Will you stop winding up the tribesmen and concentrare on Meath v Galway. Haven't seen you around the kildare forum lately...."
No one leaves messages on the Kildare forum it's very quiet got tired of talking to myself, I've no problem with Galway I would like to see them back to there best but the question was asked IF Meath were promoted who will miss out? and in my opinion it would be Galway and not Kildare but that's just my humble opinion

Kingoreilly (Kildare) - Posts:69 - 14/02/2017 19:54:37   1956806

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There's no guarantee that underage success will result into senior success, Galway won All Ireland's u21's in 2002 & 2005 and that led to no success, I'm hoping that the 2011 & 2013 u21 winning teams will have a more positive impact.

I can't remember too many counties challenging at the top without having any underage success. Meath from the mid 80's until 2001 made 11 out 17 Leinster finals winning 8 along the way, whilst in the 15 finals since 2002 they've only reached the final once. I just don't see where the optimism is coming from, I'm finding it very difficult to make a case for them becoming a real force over the next few years.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts:419 - 14/02/2017 19:55:17   1956807

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Replying To St.Conleth:  "Royaldunne (kingoreilly) we didn't crack in Navan a couple of weeks ago. Will you stop winding up the tribesmen and concentrare on Meath v Galway. Haven't seen you around the kildare forum lately...."
Went around it before Meath Kildare and tumbleweed was all that was there, the fair weather ones soon went adrift, not like yourself or myself, look I have huge respect for Galway football always have along with Down they only two counties ID shout for when Meath not playing. Many Galway posters would say that. I have nothing against them whatsoever, great tradition great fans and are likeable. I just don't like been told we shouldn't be aiming for promotion, you above anyone should know in 2011 Kildare came to navan after loosing first two league games we had won our 2 , we missed a sitter that rebound off post in injury time ye went down scored winning point Kildare got promoted we got relegated. Division two is never deceided after two games.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:10663 - 14/02/2017 19:58:15   1956809

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Went around it before Meath Kildare and tumbleweed was all that was there, the fair weather ones soon went adrift, not like yourself or myself, look I have huge respect for Galway football always have along with Down they only two counties ID shout for when Meath not playing. Many Galway posters would say that. I have nothing against them whatsoever, great tradition great fans and are likeable. I just don't like been told we shouldn't be aiming for promotion, you above anyone should know in 2011 Kildare came to navan after loosing first two league games we had won our 2 , we missed a sitter that rebound off post in injury time ye went down scored winning point Kildare got promoted we got relegated. Division two is never deceided after two games."
Very true royaldunne. Just look at Cavan last year. Didn't they lose their first two games?

lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts:2625 - 14/02/2017 20:30:16   1956821

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Lighten up Meath/Galway fans, it could be easily be 2 from Clare, Fermanagh, Cork, Kildare for promotion. I recall Kildare going up in 2012 after the draw in Salthill on Easter Sunday.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts:716 - 14/02/2017 20:32:28   1956825

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