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Replying To cuederocket: "You sound surprised that Kerry were good yesterday.Personnally,i feel if they don't beat us this year,then nobody will.No disrespect to Mayo or Tyrone,but Kerry are our biggest threat.They are still a bit slow around the middle and half forward line is not as strong as Dublin but you can be sure Kerry will have all those boxes ticked for a possible showdown.The Kingdom will be restless until they put one over on us.There is only one team they really want to beat.Donegal in February is one thing.Dublin in September is the ONLY thing that matters to them!" I wouldn't disagree with you Cue, but long way to go before either county can be contemplating next September. The match in Tralee on Paddy's weekend might tell us more. TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 06/02/2017 10:50:53 1952601 Link
Kerry were impressive alright and Moran was monstrous in the middle. I love watching Paul Geaney as a footballer, as sore as it was to take yesterday he is a wonderful player. Our own lads battled away and the heads didn't drop which was good. Considering McGee and Gallagher weren't there, and McGlynn went off early, I'd be optimistic enough with what I saw. Obviously Kerry took the foot off the gas towards the end but we still chipped away. Was delighted to see Jigger in county colours again. JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 06/02/2017 11:50:31 1952647 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "I wouldn't disagree with you Cue, but long way to go before either county can be contemplating next September. The match in Tralee on Paddy's weekend might tell us more." I'm not sure the match on St Patrick's weekend will tell a whole lot.I'd imagine Kerry will be looking to lay down a marker and try and get one over on us but i wouldn't think the game would mean much in the greater scheme of things,regardless of the result.What could be of more significance would be a possible league final meeting between the two ; last years comprehensive league final win for Dublin in front of 80,000 set us up nicely for the championship and sent the Kingdom on the long road home with more questions than answers. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/02/2017 11:59:27 1952652 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "I'm not sure the match on St Patrick's weekend will tell a whole lot.I'd imagine Kerry will be looking to lay down a marker and try and get one over on us but i wouldn't think the game would mean much in the greater scheme of things,regardless of the result.What could be of more significance would be a possible league final meeting between the two ; last years comprehensive league final win for Dublin in front of 80,000 set us up nicely for the championship and sent the Kingdom on the long road home with more questions than answers." Kerry will beat dublin if they play the way they played yesterday in Letterkenny, Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 06/02/2017 12:08:59 1952663 Link
Fair play to Monaghan. Haven't a snowball's chance in hell of ever winning a first All Ireland but still come back every year and give it their best. Conor McManus definitely one of the top forwards in Ireland.. GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - 05/02/2017 01:22:49 Good man JohnJoe. 65 years since the last one for Cavan. Not many above ground was at that one.... Conor is classy alright, we need another forward of that calibre to push on. seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 06/02/2017 14:47:41 1952766 Link
I don't think the Dublin/Kerry league match will tell us anything we don't know already. Compare last seasons league final to the AI semi, very different games, one was over early enough and the other went down to the wire! realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 06/02/2017 15:30:44 1952809 Link
Replying To realdub: "I don't think the Dublin/Kerry league match will tell us anything we don't know already. Compare last seasons league final to the AI semi, very different games, one was over early enough and the other went down to the wire!" Of course they were different games,but make no mistake,Kerry were deflated after the league final loss.I remember Tomas O Se writing in the Indo saying how disappointed he was in the manner of the defeat.And some Kerry posters on here were worried about their prospects after that game. In saying that,there was only two points between the sides with 20 minutes to go before Aidan O Mahony received his marching orders.Although Dublin were dominating possession for the majority of the game it wasn't showing on the scoreboard.With the red card the flood gates opened. In the All Ireland semi final,bar the final 7 minutes before half time when we imploded and conceded 2-3,i thought it was a very dominant display for large parts of the game which again,like the league final,didn't translate on the scoreboard.In that sense there were similiarities in the two games. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/02/2017 16:11:06 1952838 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "For God sake man, Moran would want to have the strength of the Hulk for some fella to fall over from that little contact. Good win for Monaghan and great performance from Kerry (well for the first 60mins anyway). If Mayo lose down in Tralee next Sat they could be in real trouble." I didn't even think Moran fouled the Donegal man.Hardly laid a glove on him.Looked like a dive. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/02/2017 22:14:22 1953072 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "I didn't even think Moran fouled the Donegal man.Hardly laid a glove on him.Looked like a dive." Right enough cuede, it's all part of a nefarious plan by untrustworthy Donegal. "Go on a great run from midfield, get one on one with the keeper & then dive. It'll confuse the hell out of Kerry who will then be putty in our hands" MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 06/02/2017 23:58:56 1953114 Link
Definite penalty I thought. A bigger man pushes a smaller man who is going at full pace whilst kicking the ball. He was going fast and would have only had one foot on the ground at the time of the push so he was always going to be sent flying. You can't push someone in the side. It is a foul. It was a very stupid foul as he would have done very well to stick the ball in the net from that angle imo. Instead of letting him take the shot on from there the Kerry man gave one the best players in the country a free shot from 12 yards out. Dumb foul imo. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 07/02/2017 08:58:52 1953151 Link
Replying To MesAmis: "Definite penalty I thought. A bigger man pushes a smaller man who is going at full pace whilst kicking the ball. He was going fast and would have only had one foot on the ground at the time of the push so he was always going to be sent flying. You can't push someone in the side. It is a foul. It was a very stupid foul as he would have done very well to stick the ball in the net from that angle imo. Instead of letting him take the shot on from there the Kerry man gave one the best players in the country a free shot from 12 yards out. Dumb foul imo." If they gave a foul for every similiar incident in a game there would be a hundred frees per game.Moran must have had kryptonite for breakfast as i never saw a man hit the deck so dramatically from the lightest of contact.You rarely see a free given for that. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/02/2017 11:26:02 1953206 Link
Replying To MuckrossHead: "Right enough cuede, it's all part of a nefarious plan by untrustworthy Donegal. "Go on a great run from midfield, get one on one with the keeper & then dive. It'll confuse the hell out of Kerry who will then be putty in our hands"" This isn't against Donegal,muck.If it happened to a Dublin player i would say the same.I've no axe to grind with anybody.Ok,maybe saying he dived is a bit harsh,but that hand on a players side happens hundreds of times every game and it doesn't win many,if any ,frees.Yes it was a bigger man making very light contact with a smaller man but that isn't the point and he went to ground in spectacular fasion.If i was the ref,no free,continue the game,kick out to Kerry. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/02/2017 11:54:31 1953229 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "This isn't against Donegal,muck.If it happened to a Dublin player i would say the same.I've no axe to grind with anybody.Ok,maybe saying he dived is a bit harsh,but that hand on a players side happens hundreds of times every game and it doesn't win many,if any ,frees.Yes it was a bigger man making very light contact with a smaller man but that isn't the point and he went to ground in spectacular fasion.If i was the ref,no free,continue the game,kick out to Kerry." Well after the game last year thank God that's about the height of the level of controversy :D TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/02/2017 12:25:38 1953238 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Well after the game last year thank God that's about the height of the level of controversy :D" Imagine being two points ahead in an All Ireland final and the ref gives a penalty for that in imjury time and the All Ireland is lost?I wonder would posters be so adamant it was a certain foul in those circumstances.No way jose.You must be kidding me. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/02/2017 12:54:10 1953251 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "If they gave a foul for every similiar incident in a game there would be a hundred frees per game.Moran must have had kryptonite for breakfast as i never saw a man hit the deck so dramatically from the lightest of contact.You rarely see a free given for that." You do see frees given further out the field for these type of fouls regularly. It usually results in a free from where the ball lands because the kick doesn't go where intended because of the infringement. The ref will try to play an advantage if possible but if there isn't any a foul has to be called. In relation to the challenge on sunday I just wasn't convinced the shove was inside the penalty area or not but the ref had a good view of it and made the call. I would have no argument whatsoever if that was called against my team. Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 07/02/2017 13:18:29 1953258 Link
From where I was in the ground, it looked like a penalty. It was a rash decision by the kerry player (Moran) to tackle him. He didnt take the player out, it was a push tackle from the side rather than a cynical one. Was it Martin Oreilly? He is one of our best ball carriers and fastest as well. For those of us who have played the game ;) we will know how difficult it is to tackle a fast player without causing a fall due to his momentum. We are arguing here over principle rather than practicalities. Nothing to see here folks, time to move on. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 07/02/2017 13:24:34 1953262 Link
Replying To cuederocket: "Imagine being two points ahead in an All Ireland final and the ref gives a penalty for that in imjury time and the All Ireland is lost?I wonder would posters be so adamant it was a certain foul in those circumstances.No way jose.You must be kidding me." Are you telling me in the scenario you have described say Dublin were the team 2 points down and Paul Mannion cuts through the oppositions defence (like he did in the all ireland quarter final last year) and just as he was about to shoot gets a shove in the side/back that puts him off balance causing him to fall while kicking the ball wide that you wouldn't be demanding a penalty/foul to be given? Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 07/02/2017 13:25:12 1953264 Link
Replying To Mobot: "Are you telling me in the scenario you have described say Dublin were the team 2 points down and Paul Mannion cuts through the oppositions defence (like he did in the all ireland quarter final last year) and just as he was about to shoot gets a shove in the side/back that puts him off balance causing him to fall while kicking the ball wide that you wouldn't be demanding a penalty/foul to be given?" Yes,that is exactly what i'm telling you.In my opinion it wasn't a penalty so how could i complain if Paul Mannion went to ground in similiar spectacular style from the lightest of contact and the referee waived play on?It wasn't a foul so tough luck.I'd suck it up and take it on the chin. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/02/2017 13:35:02 1953271 Link
Replying To Mobot: "You do see frees given further out the field for these type of fouls regularly. It usually results in a free from where the ball lands because the kick doesn't go where intended because of the infringement. The ref will try to play an advantage if possible but if there isn't any a foul has to be called. In relation to the challenge on sunday I just wasn't convinced the shove was inside the penalty area or not but the ref had a good view of it and made the call. I would have no argument whatsoever if that was called against my team." You see very few frees for a player putting his hand on another players side.How many times do you see a player going for a point and just as he's about to make contact with the ball an opponent comes in with a tackle and the forward who is off balance baloons it wide?The odd time the forward gets a free.More often than not the referee waves play on. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/02/2017 13:38:44 1953272 Link
Replying To TheHermit: "Well after the game last year thank God that's about the height of the level of controversy :D" Your crowd must be very happy after Sunday, really looked a good outfit. Geaney is something else JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 07/02/2017 13:54:04 1953280 Link