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Replying To bloodyban: "Croke Park is part of the problem. The stadium doesn't lend itself to a cauldron in it's open ended design and stands being set too far back from the large pitch. I know alot of rugby guys who filled Ireland in Croker said the place just didn't have an atmosphere compared to the much tighter Aviva. That's not comparing like with like but it's another valid point." The fact a rugby pitch is about 20/25 per cent smaller when set out could have been a sligjt factor alright ctowers (Dublin) - Posts: 99 - 12/08/2017 09:21:34 2032533 Link
Replying To ctowers: "The fact a rugby pitch is about 20/25 per cent smaller when set out could have been a sligjt factor alright" True. Was in the Hill for an All Blacks game. The pitch seemed to be miles away, because it nearly was. Croke Park with a full house usually has a mighty atmosphere. Some days with a big crowd, not quite full can have a great atmosphere. Depends on what's happening on the pitch too. What design of stadium for any sport, anywhere in the world, can give a better chance of a good atmosphere when it's half empty? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 12/08/2017 11:18:44 2032558 Link
Replying To Pikeman17: "Absolutely nothing wrong with Croke Park as a stadium, look at the electric atmosphere the next day for the hurling. The problem is the muck on display the previous day. GAA fans are hard to please, unlike fans of other sports they react to exciting things happening on the field, and when that happens there isn't an atmosphere like it anywhere in the world. Not like most soccer supporters who have to create their own (at times false and artificial) atmosphere by singing for 90 mins because there's F all happening on the field." That's an absolutely pathetic comment to be fair. You might not like soccer and think nothing happens on the pitch for the 90 minutes and that is absolutely your right but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. It really does smack of an inferiority complex. Why not just make your point without the need to run down another sport? the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 13/08/2017 13:26:58 2032726 Link
Replying To the_walls: "That's an absolutely pathetic comment to be fair. You might not like soccer and think nothing happens on the pitch for the 90 minutes and that is absolutely your right but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. It really does smack of an inferiority complex. Why not just make your point without the need to run down another sport?" It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 13/08/2017 14:05:47 2032736 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was" Or the price of tickets. Extortionate in some cases. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 13/08/2017 14:21:33 2032743 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was" Going through the floor? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 13/08/2017 15:38:45 2032767 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was" So subjective opinions having a go at other codes are now objective truths? I love soccer as much as I love Gaelic Football. I have no problem with another person not liking soccer but to present an one's opinion on a game as fact is ridiculous. As for attendances going through the floor, can you provide some stats to back that up? It doesn't seem like that to me. the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 13/08/2017 17:37:39 2032808 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was" And even if it somehow was objectively true so what? What does that have to do with the topic being discussed. It seems to me that that person just wanted to shoehorn a dig at soccer into the discussion. the_walls (Mayo) - Posts: 495 - 13/08/2017 17:39:44 2032810 Link
Atmosphere seemed fine the last 2 sundays Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 13/08/2017 18:51:54 2032855 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Croke Park is part of the problem. The stadium doesn't lend itself to a cauldron in it's open ended design and stands being set too far back from the large pitch. I know alot of rugby guys who filled Ireland in Croker said the place just didn't have an atmosphere compared to the much tighter Aviva. That's not comparing like with like but it's another valid point." Very valid point. It is only 3/4 of a stadium and the hill means it looses alot of the noise generated from the stands. Nothing that can done about that because of the railway behind it but it is a major reason why alot of the the noise & atmosphere is lost. county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 13/08/2017 19:07:36 2032861 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "Croke Park is part of the problem. The stadium doesn't lend itself to a cauldron in it's open ended design and stands being set too far back from the large pitch. I know alot of rugby guys who filled Ireland in Croker said the place just didn't have an atmosphere compared to the much tighter Aviva. That's not comparing like with like but it's another valid point." Very valid point. It is only 3/4 of a stadium and the hill means it looses alot of the noise generated from the stands. Nothing that can done about that because of the railway behind it but it is a major reason why alot of the the noise & atmosphere is lost. county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 13/08/2017 19:07:36 2032862 Link
Replying To county man: "Very valid point. It is only 3/4 of a stadium and the hill means it looses alot of the noise generated from the stands. Nothing that can done about that because of the railway behind it but it is a major reason why alot of the the noise & atmosphere is lost." If it was roofed all around and capacity increased to, say, 100,000, and there was 65,000 at a Super 8 game where one team was beating the other out the gate, would having a roof on the hill side improve the atmosphere? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 13/08/2017 19:45:36 2032875 Link
Replying To bloodyban: "It's true though. Soccer support worldwide is going through the floor. The product isn't what it was" Going through the floor? Like to see you back that claim up. conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 13/08/2017 21:22:06 2032932 Link
The atmosphere during the '10 semi V Cork and the '11 final V Kerry was electric, so there's no doubt certain teams and games can generate as much noise as ever, but I do agree that a closed stadium would be better of course. realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 13/08/2017 22:57:59 2032986 Link
The problem was the boring football matches you were at. Nothing else. The two hurling semi finals had excellent atmospheres. The two football semis probably will too because they should be close. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 14/08/2017 00:09:31 2033020 Link
Replying To Pikeman17: "Absolutely nothing wrong with Croke Park as a stadium, look at the electric atmosphere the next day for the hurling. The problem is the muck on display the previous day. GAA fans are hard to please, unlike fans of other sports they react to exciting things happening on the field, and when that happens there isn't an atmosphere like it anywhere in the world. Not like most soccer supporters who have to create their own (at times false and artificial) atmosphere by singing for 90 mins because there's F all happening on the field." I've been to a few arsenal matches no atmosphere whatsoever bar away supporters singing a few songs, I wasn't at the Dublin v Monaghan game but I'd imagine the atmosphere was dull because one team came to lose by as little as they could no ambition to win, the only problem with croker is that it's to big for the majority of games played there so finishing the stadium won't help with the atmosphere in my opinion, the three games left in the football championship won't be lacking in atmosphere as all three games will be close Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 14/08/2017 10:12:31 2033094 Link
Replying To Pikeman17: "Absolutely nothing wrong with Croke Park as a stadium, look at the electric atmosphere the next day for the hurling. The problem is the muck on display the previous day. GAA fans are hard to please, unlike fans of other sports they react to exciting things happening on the field, and when that happens there isn't an atmosphere like it anywhere in the world. Not like most soccer supporters who have to create their own (at times false and artificial) atmosphere by singing for 90 mins because there's F all happening on the field." Oh dear, another one desperately seeking the True Gael tag. No other atmosphere compares anywhere in the world, you say? OK, maybe you need to get out more? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 14/08/2017 14:40:40 2033282 Link
Was lucky enough to be at the 2011 ALL Ireland Football Final and observing the last ten minutes as a neutral the atmosphere was incredible, something I will never forget! IARMHI17 (Westmeath) - Posts: 16 - 16/08/2017 13:05:23 2034180 Link
The music blaring at the final whistle of the Kerry Galway match was ridiculous. What's the need for it? Totally destroys the atmosphere Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 16/08/2017 13:32:31 2034195 Link
Replying To the_walls: "That's an absolutely pathetic comment to be fair. You might not like soccer and think nothing happens on the pitch for the 90 minutes and that is absolutely your right but that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed. It really does smack of an inferiority complex. Why not just make your point without the need to run down another sport?" I think he made his point well and I agree. It is something I have thought myself, as one who attends local soccer. Even when the match is dull you have the craic winding up the other fans. He is not saying always but "at times". Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 17/08/2017 13:16:11 2034668 Link