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Replying To janesboro: "As for the Munster Final this year I think Thurles is the right shout as the Gaelic Grounds are basically in Clare. I've no idea why the Munster Semi-Final between Clare and Limerick wasn't fixed for the GG though.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:10828 - 19/06/2017 08:12:41
eh like ormond i have to question what map you are using as according to my map the gaelic grounds is actually in limerick. Nobody has a problem with dublin playing all bar one of their games in croke park which is actually (and not basically in dublin)" Don't be so pedantic
The Gaelic grounds is about a kilometre away from the limerick and Clare border at coonagh it's far easier for the clare people of cratloe sixmilebridge Shannon Westbury to go to than it is for the limerick people in adare newcastlewest foynes rathkeale and a lot more.
also didn't limerick get the Munster final last year when Waterford choose to go the ridiculous journey all the way there to get a hiding just to inconvenience when thurles was easier for both sets of supporters
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 19/06/2017 14:34:51
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ormondbannerman - as usual you have to disagree
ormond: pairc ui chaoimh is a proper modern stadium that the gaelic grounds isnt.
janesboro -gaelic grounds was rebuilt in 2003 - so yes it is a proper modern stadiumJanesboro as usual you throw in a needless personal insult.
Its a discussion forum. everyone is not meant to agree. You are meant to have people with different opinions.
gaelic grounds isnt in any way a truly modern stadium. facilities in terms of media, corporate, seating, shops etc compared to thomond park, aviva, croke park and the new pairc ui chaoimh.
ormond: Thurles is perfectly in between Cork and Clare and is quite easy for any in both counties to get to.
janesboro: while i dont know what map of ireland you are looking at but my map tells me limerick is in between cork and clare and thurles is further away, thurles is perfectly in between cork and clare. easily accessible for people from all counties via train(from ennis) or car.
ormond: its not just simply Cork prefer thurles but other counties do as well.
janesboro: that still dont explain why cork is getting quarter finalsit does. proper new modern stadium. capacity etc etc
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The gaelic grounds isn't up to the standard required for a Munster final. The facilities under the mackey stand are a disgrace. The toilets are filthy. Lights don't work in there half the time. And you have a few huts selling chocolate and coke.
And the uncovered stand isn't much better.
Plus the outside of the uncovered stand looks that a place that is closed down. Grass growing up the walls. Moss all over the ground.
The place as a whole looks like it was built in 1903 and not 2003.
mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 19/06/2017 17:49:12
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Replying To shea: "A good idea for All Ireland QF's in both codes
Let co.boards,towns bid for them in advance so for instance
Casement Park could get them one year,then fans would know in advance and plan a trip around the weekend.
Killarney,Nowlan Park,Castlebar,Galway be all excellent venues for a festival of football/hurling in the height of summer." I agree, i think croker should be saved for a semi final spot rather than a qf venue, use your other grounds too
PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 19/06/2017 17:53:09
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They have to play them there this year because Cork has a brand new stadium. If it was used for the munster hurling final they may have considered the quarter finals elsewhere but they didn't.
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Replying To perfect10: "what happens if clare beat cork?" They will be Munster champions......
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We don't really need the Gaelic grounds in Limerick to be honest. It's a bit of a white elephant..the Mackey stand is horrible.. Needs to be knocked and started again. If there had been any intelligence a joint venture between rugby and the GAA to have one top class stadium in the city with a 25-30,000 capacity would have been the way to go.
I know it would never happen, too much politics from all quarters but from a purely economic point of view it would have been smart..hurling in Thomond pk would have been the business..
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 19/06/2017 21:52:02
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We don't really need the Gaelic grounds in Limerick to be honest. It's a bit of a white elephant.
skillet (Limerick) - Posts:266 - 19/06/2017 21:52:02 2002173
yep your right -we dont need it and it is a white elephant coz we aint getting any big games , but with the new proposals we will have at least two big games next year (wont fill the stadium or anything mad like that) - and got two good games there this week
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:07:02
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They have to play them there this year because Cork has a brand new stadium. If it was used for the munster hurling final they may have considered the quarter finals elsewhere but they didn't.
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thats my point jack when we had the brand new stadium - we get no big games - even the 2004 qualifier between cork and tipp which should have been played in limerick was played in kilarney making everybody travel even more
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:08:47
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Replying To mike03: "The gaelic grounds isn't up to the standard required for a Munster final. The facilities under the mackey stand are a disgrace. The toilets are filthy. Lights don't work in there half the time. And you have a few huts selling chocolate and coke.
And the uncovered stand isn't much better.
Plus the outside of the uncovered stand looks that a place that is closed down. Grass growing up the walls. Moss all over the ground.
The place as a whole looks like it was built in 1903 and not 2003." yep the toilets under the mackey are manky to the point of being unhygienic -nothing that can be fixed
uncovered stand toilets are fine
re the lights i think it more the fact they dont put the lights on as distinct from not working - certainly not in the uncovered stand for club games
Re the shop - ah come mike you aint going to be getting more than a drink and a bar/taytos if you want a sandwich you can get it in shop across the way or you can take your fill of sweets in dunnes or lidl beside the grounds
Plus the outside of the uncovered stand looks that a place that is closed down. Grass growing up the walls. Moss all over the ground.
-- passed it last week - looked grand to me - its ivy growing on the wall and moss can be treated
in fairness the pitch is in great nick - was there for the triple header last week and the seating is as good as anywhere else - and the inside of the ground is pretty immaculate
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:20:37
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The Gaelic grounds is about a kilometre away from the limerick and Clare border at coonagh it's far easier for the clare people of cratloe sixmilebridge Shannon Westbury to go to than it is for the limerick people in adare newcastlewest foynes rathkeale and a lot more.
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:12198 - 19/06/2017 14:34:51 2001868
thats exactly my point its so much nearer to clare and only slightly further in travel time from cork city in some cases its actually its a shorter trip from cork (say charleville,mallow, west cost ) than thurles, makes sense to me to play it in limerick
i though myself last years munster final should ahve been played in thurles (nearer for all fans)
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:25:17
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Replying To mike03: "The gaelic grounds isn't up to the standard required for a Munster final. The facilities under the mackey stand are a disgrace. The toilets are filthy. Lights don't work in there half the time. And you have a few huts selling chocolate and coke.
And the uncovered stand isn't much better.
Plus the outside of the uncovered stand looks that a place that is closed down. Grass growing up the walls. Moss all over the ground.
The place as a whole looks like it was built in 1903 and not 2003." mike the old park was in a worse state than gaelic grounds is now and had much smaller capacity for 2014 munster final -also you had to exit via a kind of a haybarn from parts of the ground, and they were still allowed play the game there - what cork want cork get, fair dues to them
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:27:25
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ormondbannerman - as usual you have to disagree
as usual you throw in a needless personal insult.
not an insult its a fact you disagree with everyone -it is allowable to agree with people on forums as well you know
gaelic grounds isnt in any way a truly modern stadium. facilities in terms of media, corporate, seating, shops etc compared to thomond park, aviva, croke park and the new pairc ui chaoimh.
have you ever actually been in gaelic grounds
media facilities are fine in gaelic grounds , the seating is not notch, terraces have good view
Corporate? is there even a demand for corpoate stuff at munster finals - if there is there are a tonne local hotels nearby to host such events
as for the shop - see my comments above to mike - there is a lidl and dunnes withing a two minute walk where you can fill your shopping bags up with grub for the game
ormond: Thurles is perfectly in between Cork and Clare ##
again please check your map
thurles is perfectly in between cork and clare. easily accessible for people from all counties via train(from ennis) or car.
actually its limerick which is perfectly in between cork and clare and even more easily accessible via train or car or even bus
-is there a direct bus from cork or clare to thurles - coz there is certainly a direct bus from enis/shannon/cork to limerick
ormond: its not just simply Cork prefer thurles but other counties do as well.
janesboro: that still dont explain why cork is getting quarter finalsit does. proper new modern stadium. capacity etc etc
please explain how other counties preferring thurles explains cork getting quarter finals
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 23:36:54
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We don't really need the Gaelic grounds in Limerick to be honest. It's a bit of a white elephant..the Mackey stand is horrible.. Needs to be knocked and started again. If there had been any intelligence a joint venture between rugby and the GAA to have one top class stadium in the city with a 25-30,000 capacity would have been the way to go.
I know it would never happen, too much politics from all quarters but from a purely economic point of view it would have been smart..hurling in Thomond pk would have been the business..
skillet (Limerick) - Posts:266 - 19/06/2017 21:52:02thomond park would be fine for gaa if pitch was anywhere near big enough but its not and never would have been unless you had changed stadium to not have a second pitch there and that was never going to happen
thats exactly my point its so much nearer to clare and only slightly further in travel time from cork city in some cases its actually its a shorter trip from cork (say charleville,mallow, west cost ) than thurles, makes sense to me to play it in limerick
i though myself last years munster final should ahve been played in thurles (nearer for all fans)
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1349 - 19/06/2017 23:25:17thurles is easily accessible for anyone in clare and cork.
ormondbannerman - as usual you have to disagree
as usual you throw in a needless personal insult.
not an insult its a fact you disagree with everyone -it is allowable to agree with people on forums as well you knowit is going personal and over the top. you say as usual i disagree well its a discussion everyone will not have the same viewpoint so stop complaining about someone disagreeing with you. and i dont disagree with everyone so stop bringing that up. it looks petty. and fyi i agree with people all the time
ormond: gaelic grounds isnt in any way a truly modern stadium. facilities in terms of media, corporate, seating, shops etc compared to thomond park, aviva, croke park and the new pairc ui chaoimh.
janesboro: have you ever actually been in gaelic grounds
media facilities are fine in gaelic grounds , the seating is not notch, terraces have good view
Corporate? is there even a demand for corpoate stuff at munster finals - if there is there are a tonne local hotels nearby to host such events
as for the shop - see my comments above to mike - there is a lidl and dunnes withing a two minute walk where you can fill your shopping bags up with grub for the game gaelic grounds is not at all a modern stadium. compare it to thomond park, croke park, new pairc ui chaomh its well down rankings from those stadiums. are the media facilities fine? Compare them to stadiums i list above? Yes there would be demand for corporate at a munster final. yes there is hotels who host events but for big matches a stadium can earn huge amount more and it adds to venue if you have so many of these events on site at the ground.
and lots of people dont want to go to lidl or anywhere and bring stuff in. they want to get to the ground and get their food/drink inside the ground as its much easier
ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 20/06/2017 13:25:28
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ormond: Thurles is perfectly in between Cork and Clare
janesboro: again please check your map you can travel on national roads/motorway all the way from ennis to thurles and therefore anywhere before ennis to thurles. you can go via train from ennis to limerick and then thurles quite easily.
and for cork fans. thurles is just off the m8 motorway to cork and thurles is on the main cork dublin train line so thurles is perfectly between cork and clare
ormond: its not just simply Cork prefer thurles but other counties do as well.
janesboro: that still dont explain why cork is getting quarter finalsit does. proper new modern stadium. capacity etc etc
janesboro: please explain how other counties preferring thurles explains cork getting quarter finals
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1349 - 19/06/2017 23:36:54janesboro you surely must have heard of players, coaches, journalists talking about loving to play in home of hurling, talking about quality of the thurles pitch etc etc
We don't really need the Gaelic grounds in Limerick to be honest. It's a bit of a white elephant..the Mackey stand is horrible.. Needs to be knocked and started again. If there had been any intelligence a joint venture between rugby and the GAA to have one top class stadium in the city with a 25-30,000 capacity would have been the way to go.
I know it would never happen, too much politics from all quarters but from a purely economic point of view it would have been smart..hurling in Thomond pk would have been the business..
skillet (Limerick) - Posts:266 - 19/06/2017 21:52:02thomond park would be fine for gaa if pitch was anywhere near big enough but its not and never would have been unless you had changed stadium to not have a second pitch there and that was never going to happen
thats exactly my point its so much nearer to clare and only slightly further in travel time from cork city in some cases its actually its a shorter trip from cork (say charleville,mallow, west cost ) than thurles, makes sense to me to play it in limerick
i though myself last years munster final should ahve been played in thurles (nearer for all fans)
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:1349 - 19/06/2017 23:25:17thurles is easily accessible for anyone in clare and cork.
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thurles is easily accessible for anyone in clare and cork.
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and as i have said time and time again limerick is more accessible
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ormond you can travel on national roads/motorway all the way from ennis to thurles and therefore anywhere before ennis to thurles. you can go via train from ennis to limerick and then thurles quite easily.
can you - well the usual way from limerick city to thurles is via nenagh borroleigh and drom - please advise what national road goes from nenagh to thurles, if going from east calre youd use that route too
and for cork fans. thurles is just off the m8 motorway to cork and thurles is on the main cork dublin train line so thurles is perfectly between cork and clare
what bus routes directly do from ennis and cork to thurles ?
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Yes there would be demand for corporate at a munster final.
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please advise of which corporate events have taken place before a musnter final
please advise have either this years football or hurling finals got corporate events?
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Replying To janesboro: "Yes there would be demand for corporate at a munster final.
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please advise of which corporate events have taken place before a musnter final
please advise have either this years football or hurling finals got corporate events?" Janesboro times have week and truly moved on. You said to me above that all you get in any ground is taytos and chocolate. That is so far off the mark it's untrue. Any modern ground now has hot food and a bar. Compare the set up at the back of either stand in Thurles to what is available in the Gaelic grounds.
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Replying To janesboro: "thurles is easily accessible for anyone in clare and cork.
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and as i have said time and time again limerick is more accessible" question for you ormond
which is close to whitegate/east care - limerick or thurles ,
which is closer to ennis - limerick or thurles
which is closer to mallow or charleville - limerick or thurles
you can google map the answers if stuck
the game should be in limerick end of
of course ormond will be giving me the thumbs down now!!!!
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/06/2017 14:19:01
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