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Why are the qualifier games not on TV?

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All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment..

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/06/2017 21:51:05    2001427

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The vast majority of inter county players all prefer to play on Saturdays rather than Sundays for a start.
The recovery time from games these days usually means players end up having to take days off on Mondays following Sunday games so players as a whole have been calling for more Saturday games.
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts:539 - 18/06/2017 08:45:51
How many players are in jobs where they can afford to/are able to take mondays off??

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/06/2017 21:52:02    2001428

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The gaa don't want too many live games showing cause they believe it will hurt attendance
Even if there was no confederations cup, rte still wouldn't have shown the games,
If anything the gaa want to cut back on live games showing

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 18/06/2017 22:18:45    2001447

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Replying To kerryluck:  "The gaa don't want too many live games showing cause they believe it will hurt attendance
Even if there was no confederations cup, rte still wouldn't have shown the games,
If anything the gaa want to cut back on live games showing"
well now the games RTE are showing are not going to have us bladdering on about them next winter as some of the one s RTE have are shocking to watch and the result with exception of one or two have been one sided...RTE should have screened a game yesterday even if it was a qualifier game...I agree with original author about Sat eve games..God be with the days we went to Croke Park for two Leinster Hurling Semi Finals the same day, maybe Offaly V Dublin/Laois and then a cracker with Kilkenny and Wexford...Galway V Offaly today was only glanced over by RTE on Sunday Game tonight (and I am being honest here) no team line outs, a few seconds of each manager at end..and no decimation of how god or bad Galway really are or what has happened to Offaly...the camogie highlights were as brief and rushed then near the end to run in to an add or the silly competition that no one ever actually knows the person who won it..the Monday Game was very good many years back as it gave all the minnows decent coverage and analysis...now such games are only bother by the looks of things on RTE but wait, a Leinster final with Kildare and more than likely Dublin looming will command a full stand alone Sunday almost on RTE...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 18/06/2017 23:09:46    2001482

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Not sure how true/accurate that is, BBC will be showing World Cup but aren't obliged to show Confederations Cup.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts:200 - 17/06/2017 18:35:48
ITV are showing the world cup as well and theyre showing the confederations cup.
RTE are only irish channel with world cup so have to show confederations cup"
Why do the bbc not have to show it? Tv3 had some euro games may have world cup games. Or even if rte have to show it why have a 3 hour programme with half an hour preview and half an hour post match analysis when the pundits don't have a clue about the players. Compare that to the seconds the gave to the connacht semI final today.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/06/2017 23:17:21    2001487

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment.."
Big provincial games weren't on a Saturday evening before sky got involved. For example the kildare match would have been a double header normally with the dublin

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 18/06/2017 23:20:34    2001490

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he Monday Game was very good many years back as it gave all the minnows decent coverage and analysis..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:91 - 18/06/2017 23:09:46 2001482

have made this point before and you are 100% correct - it would be great to see this back - with all matches getting shown in highlights rather than report format and show a good half hour of camogie - was at limerick v offaly last week excellent game

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 18/06/2017 23:38:03    2001503

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could rte not put the confederations cup on rte news now channel and keep rte one and two free?

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/06/2017 00:00:02    2001515

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "Not sure how true/accurate that is, BBC will be showing World Cup but aren't obliged to show Confederations Cup.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts:200 - 17/06/2017 18:35:48
ITV are showing the world cup as well and theyre showing the confederations cup.
RTE are only irish channel with world cup so have to show confederations cup"
Checked with RTE on this and they assured me that they are not obliged to screen the Confederations Cup in 2017 , just like they haven't showed any of the previous nine tournaments. They claim to have got very good value for money. I have no problem by the way with RTE/ITV showing it especially in a quiet summer with no Olympics/Euros/World Cup. They may introduce a new panelist or two and it will also be a good rehearsal for the 2018 WC hosts Russia.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 506 - 19/06/2017 00:26:36    2001523

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Replying To kerryluck:  "The gaa don't want too many live games showing cause they believe it will hurt attendance
Even if there was no confederations cup, rte still wouldn't have shown the games,
If anything the gaa want to cut back on live games showing"
The gaa don't want too many live games showing cause they believe it will hurt attendance

Then why would the gaa in their wisdom bring in a multinational broadcaster at an extra expense to supporters to see their team(s) in action.?

Even if there was no confederations cup, rte still wouldn't have shown the games,
If anything the gaa want to cut back on live games showing


The big game on Saturday was that of Meath and Kildare, that game was part of the 14 match package that was taken from RTE and sold on to sky, before RTE can show any game, first they have to get the thumbs up and the green light from the gaa.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 19/06/2017 00:29:00    2001526

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Why do the bbc not have to show it? Tv3 had some euro games may have world cup games. Or even if rte have to show it why have a 3 hour programme with half an hour preview and half an hour post match analysis when the pundits don't have a clue about the players. Compare that to the seconds the gave to the connacht semI final today.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:910 - 18/06/2017 23:17:21
BBC dont but ITV show it. Both show world cup but only one is needed for confederations cup.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 19/06/2017 00:44:34    2001535

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Not this again, how many more times will this topic come up, RTE are treating every sport fairly, the news reports what all of its viewers are interested in, a lot people are interested to hear how to rugby and soccer is going as well,

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 19/06/2017 01:03:03    2001543

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Replying To ROS1:  "
Replying To ormondbannerman:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment.."
Big provincial games weren't on a Saturday evening before sky got involved. For example the kildare match would have been a double header normally with the dublin"
Saturday night matches were broadcasted live well before sky got the rights, seems some people will say anything just to have a go at sky

PyatPree (Cork) - Posts: 376 - 19/06/2017 01:05:46    2001544

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Replying To supersub15:  "Or indeed the, "GAA-Sky Sports deal 'very troublesome and against ethos"'
Which was recently signed up to between the two parties for another 5 years and for a sum of 56 million euros, so anyone who doesn't have access to sky tonight for the Meath/Kildare match can twiddle their thumbs. Now, even if RTE wanted to televise the Meath/Kildare game they simply couldn't as it was "exclusive to sky." So now RTE apparently have to take a back seat and let the gaa/sky dictate to them what game they can or cannot televise live."
It was the same last week for Wexford and Kilkenny and previously for Limerick and Clare

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 19/06/2017 08:18:16    2001561

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For god sake, RTE only have the rights to a certain number of games. Is it 31? So maybe if they had the rights to 32 games then they could have shown a game on Saturday, but they don't. We would all love if they showed every game possible every Saturday and Sunday from May til September but that's not part of the deal with the GAA

turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 19/06/2017 10:11:38    2001643

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Replying To ROS1:  "
Replying To ormondbannerman:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment.."
Big provincial games weren't on a Saturday evening before sky got involved. For example the kildare match would have been a double header normally with the dublin"
Kildare's last win in a Leinster semi-final in 2009 was a Saturday night standalone fixture also in Tullamore against Laois. RTÉ didn't televise it either but they did stream it on their website.

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 19/06/2017 11:53:26    2001714

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Replying To PyatPree:  "
Replying To ROS1:  "[quote=ormondbannerman:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment.."
Big provincial games weren't on a Saturday evening before sky got involved. For example the kildare match would have been a double header normally with the dublin"
Saturday night matches were broadcasted live well before sky got the rights, seems some people will say anything just to have a go at sky"]The only games on a Saturday were either the odd replay or the qualifier games. It was very rear for a big provincial games on a Saturday. I am not having a go at anyone just stating a fact.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 19/06/2017 13:27:10    2001810

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Replying To beir_bua:  "
Replying To ROS1:  "[quote=ormondbannerman:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies
riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:964 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57
This amalgamated team has the best of the irish players involved.
There has been games on Saturday evenings for quite some time. Sky havent requested special treatment.."
Big provincial games weren't on a Saturday evening before sky got involved. For example the kildare match would have been a double header normally with the dublin"
Kildare's last win in a Leinster semi-final in 2009 was a Saturday night standalone fixture also in Tullamore against Laois. RTÉ didn't televise it either but they did stream it on their website."]That would be very unusual in fairness. Hell out of the 30 seconds of the roscommon game the showed the managed to get 2 of the roscommon players names wrong

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 19/06/2017 13:30:05    2001812

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Kildare and Meath played a Leinster semi-final in Croke Park in 2003 on a Saturday night. This was due to the Special Olympics been held in Croke Park.

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 19/06/2017 15:44:33    2001923

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Rugby Telefis Eireann don't want to be showing a good GAA match.
I bet they'll show all the Lions big rugby matches though.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 19/06/2017 21:33:06    2002149

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