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What's going wrong with Ulster teams?

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Theres not a whole pile wrong with Ulster football!

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 17/04/2017 01:30:52    1980033

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "You enjoy the Leinster championship better? The hammerings Dublin give teams? Or Munster with Kerry?
Ulster had two drawn semi finals and a final that was won in injury time. Give me that any day of the week."
Up until 2010/2011 it was a a very good championship as it was competitive.If Dublin were in Ulster they'd be handing out similar beatings.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 12:19:35    1980100

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Up until 2010/2011 it was a a very good championship as it was competitive.If Dublin were in Ulster they'd be handing out similar beatings."
Yes, minus Dublin Leinster is a excellent even competitive championship. If Dublin were in ulsters for last 7 years they would have won it too apart from Donegal there was no opposition. Same this year c

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2017 13:03:47    1980118

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "You enjoy the Leinster championship better? The hammerings Dublin give teams? Or Munster with Kerry?
Ulster had two drawn semi finals and a final that was won in injury time. Give me that any day of the week."
The games I Leinster excluding Dublin have been excellent for past number of years. Dublin would have done same in ulster last couple of years. Not one ulster team made all ire semis last year. Cant see it happening this year either

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2017 13:07:17    1980121

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Up until 2010/2011 it was a a very good championship as it was competitive.If Dublin were in Ulster they'd be handing out similar beatings."
Donegal won Ulster 3 times, Monaghan 2 times and Tyrone 2 times. Compared to other counties it's very competitive

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 13:10:55    1980122

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Donegal won Ulster 3 times, Monaghan 2 times and Tyrone 2 times. Compared to other counties it's very competitive"
I was referring to the Leinster championship.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 13:45:56    1980128

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "I was referring to the Leinster championship."
Have Dublin not won 11 out of 12 since 2005? (Open for correction)
How is that competitive?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 14:42:10    1980143

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Have Dublin not won 11 out of 12 since 2005? (Open for correction)
How is that competitive?"
They faced a lot of close games in that first run of 5 in a row.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 15:19:16    1980154

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "They faced a lot of close games in that first run of 5 in a row."
Including draw in 09 v Meath.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/04/2017 15:35:39    1980155

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "They faced a lot of close games in that first run of 5 in a row."
I don't think anyone can say Leinster is competitive after 1 team wins 11 out off 12.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 15:44:21    1980156

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "They faced a lot of close games in that first run of 5 in a row."
2005:
Dubs 2-23 Longford 0-10
Dubs 1-12 Meath 1-10
Dubs 1-17 Wexford 2-10
Dubs 0-14 Laois 0-13
2006:
Dubs 1-12 Longford 0-13
Dubs 3-17 Laois 0-12
Dubs 1-15 Offaly 0-09
2007:
Dubs 1-11 Meath 0-14
Dubs 0-16 Meath 0-12
Dubs 1-12 Offaly 0-10
Dubs 3-14 Laois 1-14
2008:
Dubs 1-22 Louth 0-12
Dubs 0-13 Westmeath 1-08
Dubs 3-23 Wexford 0-09
2009:
Dubs 0-14 Meath 0-12
Dubs 4-26 Westmeath 0-11
Dubs 2-15 Kildare 0-18
2010:
Dubs 2-16 Wexford 0-15
Dubs 0-13 Meath 5-09
2011:
Dubs 1-16 Laois 0-11
Dubs 1-12 Kildare 1-11
Dubs 2-12 Wexford 1-12
2012:
Dubs 2-22 Louth 0-12
Dubs 2-11 Wexford 1-10
Dubs 2-13 Meath 1-13
2013:
Dubs 1-22 Westmeath 0-09
Dubs 4-16 Kildare 1-09
Dubs 2-15 Meath 0-14
2014:
Dubs 2-21 Laois 0-16
Dubs 2-25 Wexford 1-12
Dubs 3-20 Meath 1-10
2015:
Dubs 4-25 Longford 0-10
Dubs 5-18 Kildare 0-14
Dubs 2-13 Westmeath 0-06
2016:
Dubs 2-21 Laois 2-10
Dubs 0-21 Meath 0-11
Dubs 2-19 Westmeath 0-10

Played: 37 Won: 35 Draws: 1 Lost: 1 Win Rate: 95 %
Scored: 65-627 (822) Average scored per match: 24 points
Conceded: 19-421 (478) Average conceded per match: 13 points

OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 17/04/2017 16:44:05    1980173

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Replying To OLLIE:  "2005:
Dubs 2-23 Longford 0-10
Dubs 1-12 Meath 1-10
Dubs 1-17 Wexford 2-10
Dubs 0-14 Laois 0-13
2006:
Dubs 1-12 Longford 0-13
Dubs 3-17 Laois 0-12
Dubs 1-15 Offaly 0-09
2007:
Dubs 1-11 Meath 0-14
Dubs 0-16 Meath 0-12
Dubs 1-12 Offaly 0-10
Dubs 3-14 Laois 1-14
2008:
Dubs 1-22 Louth 0-12
Dubs 0-13 Westmeath 1-08
Dubs 3-23 Wexford 0-09
2009:
Dubs 0-14 Meath 0-12
Dubs 4-26 Westmeath 0-11
Dubs 2-15 Kildare 0-18
2010:
Dubs 2-16 Wexford 0-15
Dubs 0-13 Meath 5-09
2011:
Dubs 1-16 Laois 0-11
Dubs 1-12 Kildare 1-11
Dubs 2-12 Wexford 1-12
2012:
Dubs 2-22 Louth 0-12
Dubs 2-11 Wexford 1-10
Dubs 2-13 Meath 1-13
2013:
Dubs 1-22 Westmeath 0-09
Dubs 4-16 Kildare 1-09
Dubs 2-15 Meath 0-14
2014:
Dubs 2-21 Laois 0-16
Dubs 2-25 Wexford 1-12
Dubs 3-20 Meath 1-10
2015:
Dubs 4-25 Longford 0-10
Dubs 5-18 Kildare 0-14
Dubs 2-13 Westmeath 0-06
2016:
Dubs 2-21 Laois 2-10
Dubs 0-21 Meath 0-11
Dubs 2-19 Westmeath 0-10

Played: 37 Won: 35 Draws: 1 Lost: 1 Win Rate: 95 %
Scored: 65-627 (822) Average scored per match: 24 points
Conceded: 19-421 (478) Average conceded per match: 13 points"
Yeah.As you see in the first 5 in a row they faced a number of close games.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 17:56:44    1980188

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "I don't think anyone can say Leinster is competitive after 1 team wins 11 out off 12."
They faced a number of close games in the 00's.Since then they've blown everyone away but up until 2010 the other teams put it up to them.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 17:57:36    1980189

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "They faced a number of close games in the 00's.Since then they've blown everyone away but up until 2010 the other teams put it up to them."
You're clutching lad. How can you say Leinster is competitive after one team dominating for so long. They have lost one game in 10 odd years. Give it up.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 18:39:50    1980200

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "You're clutching lad. How can you say Leinster is competitive after one team dominating for so long. They have lost one game in 10 odd years. Give it up."
I said it was competitive.Not is.Was as in past tense.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 20:00:28    1980214

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "I said it was competitive.Not is.Was as in past tense."
Ok you want to get the last word. It wasn't competitive in the first 5 years either. Dublin won them all.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 20:53:15    1980230

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Donegal have never had a better group of more natural players .

Ryan McHugh , .Michael Murphy , Frank McGlynn, Paddy McBrearty , Ciaran Thompson ( soon to be ) would walk on any team in any era.

Most defenders in the 1980s and 1990s couldn't hit scores - Donegal's defenders can score from anywhere .

Sad to see some posters with bitterness and hatred in them .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 17/04/2017 21:09:39    1980236

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Ok you want to get the last word. It wasn't competitive in the first 5 years either. Dublin won them all."
Teams can win all the time and the championship can be competitive.Competitive means competition not there being a spread of winners.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 21:30:48    1980238

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Replying To TheRightStuff:  "Donegal have never had a better group of more natural players .

Ryan McHugh , .Michael Murphy , Frank McGlynn, Paddy McBrearty , Ciaran Thompson ( soon to be ) would walk on any team in any era.

Most defenders in the 1980s and 1990s couldn't hit scores - Donegal's defenders can score from anywhere .

Sad to see some posters with bitterness and hatred in them ."
Then why don't they go out and play some football.No point having good footballers and not letting them play. They've played terrible stuff for the last couple of years.

uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 17/04/2017 21:34:48    1980241

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Replying To uibhfhaili1986:  "Teams can win all the time and the championship can be competitive.Competitive means competition not there being a spread of winners."
Out of 17 games in the first 5 years there were 5 games where a team got within 3 points of Dublin. The rest were hammerings. So how was it competitive?

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 17/04/2017 21:42:08    1980244

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