National - Poor state of football in rural Ireland

Congratulations to the capital on maintaining their unbeaten run. It's a great time for them.

At the same time it's a reflection of the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. 2010 marked the end of two great teams from the 00's. No team has been able to reach their level.

In Leinster questions have to be asked of Meath and Kildare. Those counties have decent sized populations.

In Connaught, Mayo have dominated yet on the All-Ireland stage they are found out time after time.

Up north, there's been no powerful successor to Tyrone.

In Munster, our traditional rival have struggled. Clare and Tipperary deserve credit for strides they've made.

People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that. It's no excuse for the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. The like of Galway, Cork, Meath and Kildare have the population sizes to be competitive.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 09:55:50   1968396

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Congratulations to the capital on maintaining their unbeaten run. It's a great time for them.

At the same time it's a reflection of the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. 2010 marked the end of two great teams from the 00's. No team has been able to reach their level.

In Leinster questions have to be asked of Meath and Kildare. Those counties have decent sized populations.

In Connaught, Mayo have dominated yet on the All-Ireland stage they are found out time after time.

Up north, there's been no powerful successor to Tyrone.

In Munster, our traditional rival have struggled. Clare and Tipperary deserve credit for strides they've made.

People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that. It's no excuse for the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. The like of Galway, Cork, Meath and Kildare have the population sizes to be competitive."
Meath and Kildare aren't the only other counties in Leinster with a healthy sized population bud, there's more than 3 strawberry sellers and a goat living in Wexford these days you know! :)

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts:2238 - 19/03/2017 10:16:51   1968407

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Congratulations to the capital on maintaining their unbeaten run. It's a great time for them.

At the same time it's a reflection of the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. 2010 marked the end of two great teams from the 00's. No team has been able to reach their level.

In Leinster questions have to be asked of Meath and Kildare. Those counties have decent sized populations.

In Connaught, Mayo have dominated yet on the All-Ireland stage they are found out time after time.

Up north, there's been no powerful successor to Tyrone.

In Munster, our traditional rival have struggled. Clare and Tipperary deserve credit for strides they've made.

People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that. It's no excuse for the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. The like of Galway, Cork, Meath and Kildare have the population sizes to be competitive."
Too simplistic although I agree with your general point. Galway for example have internal issues between football and hurling. Price you pay when you have two codes pretty even. Mayo and Kerry would have greater numbers playing football than Galway and the city has never being a strong GAA stringhold. Cork is the big conundrum here with 200 clubs. I agree on your reference to Meath and Kildare. Have not utilised the commuter belt boom very well. In Meath for example many of the current squad are within the catchment of the border with Dublin which tells me that North Meath and around the Navan area, often big contributors to the successful Meath teams of yore are not contributing to the county squad like one time.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1106 - 19/03/2017 10:37:38   1968418

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"People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that."

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5192 - 19/03/2017 09:55:50


Nobody is really going on about it, except for yourself.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:241 - 19/03/2017 12:55:29   1968461

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Replying To MedwayIrish:  "Meath and Kildare aren't the only other counties in Leinster with a healthy sized population bud, there's more than 3 strawberry sellers and a goat living in Wexford these days you know! :)"
I've an expectation on Meath and Kildare to be better. Wexford are making good strides in the hurling.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 15:33:19   1968495

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I've an expectation on Meath and Kildare to be better. Wexford are making good strides in the hurling."
You seem fixated on Meath and Kildare. When you have the machine to focus on to play at some stage it's going to knock a teams confidence, however both counties have been going through a transition or stagnation for a number of years, however both have for their houses in order but this won't be evident in seniors for couple of years.
I am a sceptic by nature and the mind does tend to wonder if this post is more to deflect the fact that your piece of history is now irrelevant with Dublin coming down to Tralee and playing cat and mouse with Kerry and still going home with a draw and the title of greatest team ever? Maybe I'm wrong.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11956 - 19/03/2017 15:54:49   1968510

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Replying To extranjero:  ""People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that."

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5192 - 19/03/2017 09:55:50


Nobody is really going on about it, except for yourself."
I haven't said a word about the resources of the 3 county councils and capital city council. Here in Kerry we are taking full responsibility for having neglected our youth.

We were always likely to have a few years on the quiet side. It's unfortunate for rural Ireland that our years on the quiet side is coinciding with a time when the game is in a terrible state nationally in rural Ireland.

We are having to deal with poaching from Australia. Are many other rural counties having the same problem?

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 15:55:25   1968512

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God someone have a word with that Mayo crowd, only loss on my accumulator grrrrrr :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts:6304 - 19/03/2017 16:05:27   1968520

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Replying To royaldunne:  "You seem fixated on Meath and Kildare. When you have the machine to focus on to play at some stage it's going to knock a teams confidence, however both counties have been going through a transition or stagnation for a number of years, however both have for their houses in order but this won't be evident in seniors for couple of years.
I am a sceptic by nature and the mind does tend to wonder if this post is more to deflect the fact that your piece of history is now irrelevant with Dublin coming down to Tralee and playing cat and mouse with Kerry and still going home with a draw and the title of greatest team ever? Maybe I'm wrong."
I mentioned teams from all provinces. The game is in a terrible state in rural Ireland. Just because the media don't want to shine the spotlight on it, it doesn't mean it's an issue that had to be ignored.

In the late 80's Meath and Cork stepped up to the mark. We had the rise of Ulster then in the early 90's. Since Kerry and Tyrone regressed after their exits in 2010, the standard in the championship has regressed as well.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 16:05:43   1968521

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Replying To legendzxix:  "Congratulations to the capital on maintaining their unbeaten run. It's a great time for them.

At the same time it's a reflection of the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. 2010 marked the end of two great teams from the 00's. No team has been able to reach their level.

In Leinster questions have to be asked of Meath and Kildare. Those counties have decent sized populations.

In Connaught, Mayo have dominated yet on the All-Ireland stage they are found out time after time.

Up north, there's been no powerful successor to Tyrone.

In Munster, our traditional rival have struggled. Clare and Tipperary deserve credit for strides they've made.

People can go on about resources of the capital, 3 county councils and a city council and all that. It's no excuse for the poor state of the game in rural Ireland. The like of Galway, Cork, Meath and Kildare have the population sizes to be competitive."
The four counties you named Galway Meath Kildare and cork have ducked down people would want to remember Mayo have the same population as Louth the smallest county in Ireland and we have always competed with Dublin. Don't forget how many of Mayo football players across the board county and club play from outside the county and we compete not spend our time complaining about dublins wealth or population plenty of keyboard men to do that. Dublin alway have the biggest population it they went long enough without winning all Ireland's they have done a lot of work to produce a great team that we have today no doubt Meath or Galway will wait till this Dublin team come near to the end of their cycle when they will cop themselves on!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts:522 - 19/03/2017 16:10:11   1968526

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Also don't forget that terrible condition that affects very many Kerry people

Belly aching

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts:17395 - 19/03/2017 16:11:20   1968527

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "The four counties you named Galway Meath Kildare and cork have ducked down people would want to remember Mayo have the same population as Louth the smallest county in Ireland and we have always competed with Dublin. Don't forget how many of Mayo football players across the board county and club play from outside the county and we compete not spend our time complaining about dublins wealth or population plenty of keyboard men to do that. Dublin alway have the biggest population it they went long enough without winning all Ireland's they have done a lot of work to produce a great team that we have today no doubt Meath or Galway will wait till this Dublin team come near to the end of their cycle when they will cop themselves on!"
There's no doubt Mayo are making an effort. Kerry likewise are looking at our own failings having neglected our youth. Tyrone might not be too far away either from mounting a credible challenge.

It is sad to see the game in such a poor state right across rural Ireland. The capital are at the same consistent level they've been at since 2005. Again, they can only beat the opposition in front of them. It's up to other's to come up with the answers.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 17:41:34   1968604

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The capital are at the same consistent level they've been at since 2005.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5198 - 19/03/2017 17:41:34


Sorry but that statement doesn't hold up for me. From what I've seen, the current Dublin side is miles ahead of the Dublin teams from around 2005.

extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:241 - 19/03/2017 18:09:56   1968629

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Replying To legendzxix:  "There's no doubt Mayo are making an effort. Kerry likewise are looking at our own failings having neglected our youth. Tyrone might not be too far away either from mounting a credible challenge.

It is sad to see the game in such a poor state right across rural Ireland. The capital are at the same consistent level they've been at since 2005. Again, they can only beat the opposition in front of them. It's up to other's to come up with the answers."
Has to be said kerry have been successful for twenty years and with same population problems as the likes of Mayo although with different expections from the populations its some record ye have!

Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts:522 - 19/03/2017 18:18:07   1968638

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Replying To extranjero:  "The capital are at the same consistent level they've been at since 2005.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5198 - 19/03/2017 17:41:34


Sorry but that statement doesn't hold up for me. From what I've seen, the current Dublin side is miles ahead of the Dublin teams from around 2005."
The capital haven't come up against a great team since the August Bank Holiday weekend of 2009.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 19:46:51   1968702

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "Has to be said kerry have been successful for twenty years and with same population problems as the likes of Mayo although with different expections from the populations its some record ye have!"
... and despite what people might think, we have not neglected our hurling responsibilities.

Around the country there are strong football clubs with decent intermediate hurling. There are strong hurling clubs with decent intermediate football.

We are strong in tier 2 hurling. We are temporarily just above tier 2 to the best of our ability from a small hurling pool. Our senior club champions compete well in the Munster intermediate championship.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts:5304 - 19/03/2017 19:53:01   1968708

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Replying To legendzxix:  "There's no doubt Mayo are making an effort. Kerry likewise are looking at our own failings having neglected our youth. Tyrone might not be too far away either from mounting a credible challenge.

It is sad to see the game in such a poor state right across rural Ireland. The capital are at the same consistent level they've been at since 2005. Again, they can only beat the opposition in front of them. It's up to other's to come up with the answers."
Pure dung

Dublin have taken the game to a new level.

These threads are a joke.

You've come back after you've "wintered well" and are peddling the same crap over and over again.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts:1722 - 19/03/2017 20:23:09   1968735

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Replying To Spoddgy:  "The four counties you named Galway Meath Kildare and cork have ducked down people would want to remember Mayo have the same population as Louth the smallest county in Ireland and we have always competed with Dublin. Don't forget how many of Mayo football players across the board county and club play from outside the county and we compete not spend our time complaining about dublins wealth or population plenty of keyboard men to do that. Dublin alway have the biggest population it they went long enough without winning all Ireland's they have done a lot of work to produce a great team that we have today no doubt Meath or Galway will wait till this Dublin team come near to the end of their cycle when they will cop themselves on!"
We are hardly waiting for Dublin to come back to the pack before we as you say 'cop ourselves on'. Galway and Meath won all irelands in the late nineties/ early noughties because they had great teams. Teams who would have won in any era including the current one. I would love nothing more than to see our guys rub shoulders with the heavyweights but it is taking time. You cannot plan these things. Amyway back to topic. My initial post on this is pretty much how feel about the topic. And to add maybe population is not the issue but the structures within the county.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:1106 - 19/03/2017 20:25:08   1968736

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I mentioned teams from all provinces. The game is in a terrible state in rural Ireland. Just because the media don't want to shine the spotlight on it, it doesn't mean it's an issue that had to be ignored.

In the late 80's Meath and Cork stepped up to the mark. We had the rise of Ulster then in the early 90's. Since Kerry and Tyrone regressed after their exits in 2010, the standard in the championship has regressed as well."
why don't Kerry poster quit whinging? And quit slagging off Gaelic football. I lost a lot or respect for the Kingdom in the 00's with the likes of Pat Spillane always complaining. It seems like sour grapes to me. Football is in a good place at the moment - Dr Crokes won yesterday ffs, so quit moaning!!!!

galwayford (Galway) - Posts:1087 - 19/03/2017 20:30:33   1968743

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The capital haven't come up against a great team since the August Bank Holiday weekend of 2009.

legendzxix (Kerry) - 19/03/2017 19:46:51

The capital come up against a great team every time they play an in house game against one another ;)

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts:1658 - 19/03/2017 20:33:32   1968747

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