National - Overcrowding on the Hill

Was just wondering if any other fans noticed that the aisles were packed with people because there was no room in the standing areas.
The same happened in the 2015 All-Ireland Fnal. Croke Park is in breach of all Health and Safety protocols if there are over-selling tickets for terraces. Some day somebody is going to get hurt.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts:638 - 08/08/2017 08:29:22   2030766

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sure all that doesn't matter as long as they're making more money

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1557 - 08/08/2017 11:39:11   2030887

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The biggest problem on the hill is the inebriation of the people up there, not overcrowding.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts:3885 - 08/08/2017 11:56:01   2030907

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Replying To avonali:  "Was just wondering if any other fans noticed that the aisles were packed with people because there was no room in the standing areas.
The same happened in the 2015 All-Ireland Fnal. Croke Park is in breach of all Health and Safety protocols if there are over-selling tickets for terraces. Some day somebody is going to get hurt."
Have you seen the size of some of the fellas on the hill?

Some of them would take up 2 spaces.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts:6008 - 08/08/2017 11:58:13   2030909

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Replying To avonali:  "Was just wondering if any other fans noticed that the aisles were packed with people because there was no room in the standing areas.
The same happened in the 2015 All-Ireland Fnal. Croke Park is in breach of all Health and Safety protocols if there are over-selling tickets for terraces. Some day somebody is going to get hurt."
nice try but you the reason is the late comers in with drink on them, there was plenty of room at the back of the hill

heresam (Dublin) - Posts:156 - 08/08/2017 11:59:34   2030912

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Biggest problem is that no one wants to go to the lower steps as you can't see the game through the perspex. So the rest of the hill is overcrowded.

FootblockREF (Monaghan) - Posts:85 - 08/08/2017 12:26:46   2030927

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Replying To Pinkie:  "The biggest problem on the hill is the inebriation of the people up there, not overcrowding."
Depends on the game. The Hill for a Dublin game is a very different crowd in comparison for a big game between other counties.

The Hill for Dublin games has a greater mix of patrons. There are families of grandparents, children and grandchildren and everyone else.

On non Dubs games it's a different story all together. It's mainly teenagers/early 20s many who whom have been drinking all day in the way up/down. To be fair most are having good fun but it can be very messy.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:11317 - 08/08/2017 12:27:30   2030929

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Another problem is people jumping buying nally tickets and jumping over the railing onto the hill. Stewards don't stop you, infact ive seen them HELP people over in big games.

Personally, ive been on the hill for big games down the years and its nowhere near as crowded as it was in the 90's, can get a bit claustrophobic at times but sure I wouldn't say its overly dangerous, certainly safer since its rebuild that's for sure even when its chocker..

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:12468 - 08/08/2017 12:29:46   2030931

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Replying To heresam:  "nice try but you the reason is the late comers in with drink on them, there was plenty of room at the back of the hill"
'nice try'"- and what did you have in mind? What was I 'trying"? I was there with my kid and I tried to take him to the toilets. We were fairly high up on the Hill. We could not get back to our places because the aisles were full. Jesus, it's bad enough non-Dublinfolk peddling all sorts of B.S. and lazy stereotypes about Dubiners on the Hill without having other Dublin people at it.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts:638 - 08/08/2017 12:51:04   2030957

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Have you seen the size of some of the fellas on the hill?

Some of them would take up 2 spaces."
This must actually contribute. People back in the 70's would be much skinnier on average there your average joe nowadays. You can see how they squeezed many more onto the terraces when you consider that fact.

To help they should remove the barrier down the bottom and then people would be more likely to stand down there. The view is terrible looking through that and the net.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts:1946 - 10/08/2017 20:16:25   2032141

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Have you seen the size of some of the fellas on the hill?

Some of them would take up 2 spaces."
Very true, there were a few fine Kingdom heifers who ventured onto the Hill for the 2011 and 2015 finals and boy health and safety would have a field day ha ha.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts:1668 - 10/08/2017 23:04:13   2032181

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People back in the 70's would be much skinnier on average there your average joe nowadays

Aye but was your average Joe back in the 80s in Dublin not Joe McNally?

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts:3471 - 11/08/2017 08:59:43   2032225

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I'd rather stay at home than be in the Hill, yes the singing and atmosphere ads excitement to games but it's the lunging forward when a team scores a goal that is extremely dangerous, in the past I have seen people jumping up when a goal is scored and fall over the gang in front and end up 3 steps below them, the GAA will say there is nothing wrong with that part of the grounds but heavens forbid if somebody gets injured or crushed who will take responsibility, definitely won't be the GAA, they will claim drink or stupidity caused the injuries, I for a long time have being calling for the Hill to be a single tier seated area with a low roof so the neighbouring houses won't be affected by the height but people talk about tradition and history etc

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts:1096 - 11/08/2017 09:47:57   2032242

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Replying To riverboys:  "I'd rather stay at home than be in the Hill, yes the singing and atmosphere ads excitement to games but it's the lunging forward when a team scores a goal that is extremely dangerous, in the past I have seen people jumping up when a goal is scored and fall over the gang in front and end up 3 steps below them, the GAA will say there is nothing wrong with that part of the grounds but heavens forbid if somebody gets injured or crushed who will take responsibility, definitely won't be the GAA, they will claim drink or stupidity caused the injuries, I for a long time have being calling for the Hill to be a single tier seated area with a low roof so the neighbouring houses won't be affected by the height but people talk about tradition and history etc"
You obviously haven't been in the hill for about 15 years.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:11317 - 11/08/2017 10:12:21   2032254

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The All Ireland final Mayo v Dublin people with Nally tickets were sent into the Hill as the Nally was full, don't see how you can oversell a section when a full house is expected. It is fine when everything works out but there is a potential disaster brewing with the new fences added in.

the_gatekeeper (Mayo) - Posts:81 - 11/08/2017 11:27:21   2032288

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Whatever about overcrowding the aisles are usually full and you may forget about getting down once the game starts.
God forbid if anyone fell ill because there would be zero chance of help getting to them or getting them out.
Health and safety my arse !

catch22 (USA) - Posts:515 - 11/08/2017 12:27:56   2032328

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Knock the thing down it looks shocking , build the stadium around once and for all.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts:8824 - 11/08/2017 13:09:36   2032341

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Knock the thing down it looks shocking , build the stadium around once and for all."
Must say clondalkindub, it's great to see a Dublin poster in favour of this.

Finish the stadium and it'll be the best in the world (although it's damn close already!).

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts:2829 - 11/08/2017 15:41:36   2032392

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Replying To cavanman47:  "Must say clondalkindub, it's great to see a Dublin poster in favour of this.

Finish the stadium and it'll be the best in the world (although it's damn close already!)."
For the millionth time.

They can't. Railway track etc etc

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts:11317 - 11/08/2017 16:00:25   2032398

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Replying To MesAmis:  "For the millionth time.

They can't. Railway track etc etc"
I think if you look around the world people have built far harder things then what it would take to finish croke park :D It most certainly could be done but the issue is right now it makes no sense for the GAA financially when they want to pump money into other projects like Pairc ui Chaoimh and Casement instead. And rightfully so.

I think they should finish it but i don't think they should remove the Hill 16 terrace. It adds to the atmosphere and it offers cheaper tickets. I think the Hill should be the same on the Nally side as it is on the Cusaack side. That would add many thousands if it was the same the whole way around. Above that then you'd like to see the upper tier from the Cusaack continue and meet with the Hogan upper on the other side. With a roof over head. You'd now have a completed stadium and an even bigger Hill 16 terrace. Capacity would be over 95,000 you'd imagine which would still sell out for all ireland finals but the extra tickets would make it a little easier to get hold of them. Between the hurling and the football final you'd be bringing in about 2 million extra a year and a little more from other semi finals or quater final double headers that exceed the 82,000 mark.

But most importantly you'd have one of the most impressive stadiums in the world and the atmosphere from the hill would be even better with a roof overhead. Hopefully in 20 years a project like this gets the go ahead.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts:1946 - 11/08/2017 16:48:34   2032414

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