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The Sunday Game... do certain pundits have an agenda

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Whilst watching the sunday game last night, I wanted to see what the panel would say about mayo vs clare. I'm amazed by the panel how they chose to talk about and singling out 2 mayo players, and did not talk about any galway or roscommon players and the big melee which ended up with galway down to 13 players at the end. There was plenty of melees and battles within all the games at the wend, but the bias which the sunday game has now is infuriating. At least with sky, you get analysis both good and bad, but there is no agenda, which cant be said about the sunday game.

maigheoabu2016 (Mayo) - Posts: 17 - 10/07/2017 09:34:57    2013698

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if anybody ever doubted there was an agenda there they could have no doubts after last night.
really time this outdated program was axed. I really can't see it back for another season. They can make changes to set and format of the program all they want but the brand is toxic and must go.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 10/07/2017 10:02:28    2013736

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Replying To maigheoabu2016:  "Whilst watching the sunday game last night, I wanted to see what the panel would say about mayo vs clare. I'm amazed by the panel how they chose to talk about and singling out 2 mayo players, and did not talk about any galway or roscommon players and the big melee which ended up with galway down to 13 players at the end. There was plenty of melees and battles within all the games at the wend, but the bias which the sunday game has now is infuriating. At least with sky, you get analysis both good and bad, but there is no agenda, which cant be said about the sunday game."
100% agree. There is no consistency in what is shown. The Galway Roscommon scrap was a decent one for todays standards. Generally nothing comes form them.

For the Cillian O'Connor incident there was nothing in it to show. However I believe they were right to shown the Harrison/Sexton one. What Harrison did was extremely dangerous and should not be tolerated within the game,

juicy (Meath) - Posts: 399 - 10/07/2017 10:05:33    2013748

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It made me mad too. I am not defending the incidents but Sexton did have Harrison in a headlock and Cillian (who does walk on the edge) was being pulled and hot all day. Why not highlight that or every other incident the referee misses in every game? Was weird the malee at the end of the Connacht final was brushed aside.

Mayo need to improve discipline.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 10/07/2017 10:07:12    2013750

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They'd do well to spend less time singling players out and more time actually showing highlights and discussion points. Anyone not in Navan would have no idea about a few controversial decisions on both sides that could have swung it either way.

And then you have certain pundits crying about Sky's deal with the GAA. Until RTE buck up their ideas and provide actual decent coverage of our national sports then I'll have no sympathy for them.

JoeSoap (Donegal) - Posts: 1432 - 10/07/2017 10:12:42    2013759

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Replying To yew_tree:  "It made me mad too. I am not defending the incidents but Sexton did have Harrison in a headlock and Cillian (who does walk on the edge) was being pulled and hot all day. Why not highlight that or every other incident the referee misses in every game? Was weird the malee at the end of the Connacht final was brushed aside.

Mayo need to improve discipline."
The Mayo corner back should get a two game suspension at least for what he did.Exremely dangerous.

ifindoubt (Donegal) - Posts: 133 - 10/07/2017 10:18:43    2013768

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So what exactly is their agenda?

turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 10/07/2017 10:29:34    2013784

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Any time CO'Cs carry on is highlighted is a good thing.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 10:42:06    2013801

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There were two big talking points in the Donegal meath game. one was the disallowed Donegal goal the second was the late free which meath never got. how come the sunday game didn't even mention it last night. surely in this day of age the fans have a right to see these incidents. if there was a wee scuffle between these teams I guarantee you it would be shown. in my eyes the sunday game are only worried about the big teams.

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2391 - 10/07/2017 10:51:37    2013811

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Replying To ifindoubt:  "The Mayo corner back should get a two game suspension at least for what he did.Exremely dangerous."
Lucky boy but he didn't or do we all want a scenario where it is trial by TV. If so, then lets run with that but every game and incident must be discussed.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 10/07/2017 11:06:03    2013825

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I think the difference is that the referee punished several players during the Galway Roscommon melee while the Mayo incidents were either missed or not punished appropriately. Although Comer should've got a straight red. A straight red for C'OC at the time and we could easily be looking at a different result. Punching a lad (who stays on his feet) and then falling over yourself. Hate that carry on.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 11:51:37    2013873

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Replying To ifindoubt:  "The Mayo corner back should get a two game suspension at least for what he did.Exremely dangerous."
If you've run your guts out for 70+ minutes and someone gets a hold on you that stops you breathing you'll do anything instinctively to release the hold. Harrison put the guy down flat on his back... no risk to his neck and far more gentle than I'd have been. The Clare lad still kept the lock on too. Both would have received yellows in rugby and no more. Cillian was just defending himself against 3 Clare lads who were roughing him up. Mossy and the Gooch were just doing the agenda pedalling we've been seeing every week in the football coverage.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 10/07/2017 12:03:28    2013889

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Replying To Pericles:  "If you've run your guts out for 70+ minutes and someone gets a hold on you that stops you breathing you'll do anything instinctively to release the hold. Harrison put the guy down flat on his back... no risk to his neck and far more gentle than I'd have been. The Clare lad still kept the lock on too. Both would have received yellows in rugby and no more. Cillian was just defending himself against 3 Clare lads who were roughing him up. Mossy and the Gooch were just doing the agenda pedalling we've been seeing every week in the football coverage."
Aw poor Cillian, always the victim.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 12:13:18    2013901

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Aw poor Cillian, always the victim."
Cillian is not always the victim but he is not always at fault wither. I try to look at things objectively. Well as much as possible hwne it comes to my own county.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 10/07/2017 12:16:25    2013905

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Cillian is not always the victim but he is not always at fault wither. I try to look at things objectively. Well as much as possible hwne it comes to my own county."
I think the Mayo players that don't get themselves involved in this crack deserve that benefit of the doubt.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 10/07/2017 12:34:31    2013923

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Cillian is not always the victim but he is not always at fault wither. I try to look at things objectively. Well as much as possible hwne it comes to my own county."
COC personifies so much that's wrong with modern day football... what an amazing talent but he spends half his time trying to get lads carded or if not that then faking whatever he can think of ... just look at the embarrassing incident against Galway when he ran full steam into galway player and threw himself to ground to get him black carded ... cut to closing minutes when he wins a free then pushes ball and his body into Galway man claiming he's blocked .. it's embarrassing to watch such a talent so such dreadful things

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 334 - 10/07/2017 12:35:14    2013925

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Sunday game seems to be running scared of any controversy after Connolly v Spillane .... so much so that it's awful viewing ... listened to say games on wireless and was looking forward to all incidents discussed already to be analysed as well as armaghs indiscipline that included 40 frees ... yes that's FORTY frees in a single match .. we need something like basketball rules brought in for such persistent fouls .. after yer team concedes so many frees then every free after automatically wins u a 45 if outside it and a 21 if inside it etc .. the sooner BBC and sky dominate this sport the better

KeshGFC (Fermanagh) - Posts: 334 - 10/07/2017 12:39:43    2013927

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Replying To Breffni39:  "Aw poor Cillian, always the victim."
Like Yewtree Breffni, I'm not selling the line that Cillian's a saint, but on this occasion he wasn't the instigator. The SG coverage was biased and agenda driven. They must think the GAA disciplinary bodies are a soft touch and incapable of independent thought. It's so outrageously unsubtle at this point as to be insulting to the intelligence of the officials.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 10/07/2017 12:47:52    2013940

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People are always looking to complain about something. Why can't people appreciate an odd time what we have? the big team will always be analysed differently, regardless of the sport. They are the ones in the spotlight,

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 10/07/2017 12:48:59    2013942

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Replying To KeshGFC:  "Sunday game seems to be running scared of any controversy after Connolly v Spillane .... so much so that it's awful viewing ... listened to say games on wireless and was looking forward to all incidents discussed already to be analysed as well as armaghs indiscipline that included 40 frees ... yes that's FORTY frees in a single match .. we need something like basketball rules brought in for such persistent fouls .. after yer team concedes so many frees then every free after automatically wins u a 45 if outside it and a 21 if inside it etc .. the sooner BBC and sky dominate this sport the better"
Dry up there 40 frees due to a ref that was hell bent in trying to get us to lose that match. He let westmeath away with a lot of the similar tackles unpunished.....

credit_crunch (Armagh) - Posts: 57 - 10/07/2017 12:50:56    2013944

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