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Why are the qualifier games not on TV?

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5 GAA fixtures across the country today and RTE treat us to live coverage of a mickey mouse soccer tournament game between Russia and New Zealand.

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 17/06/2017 17:06:05    2000640

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Confederations Cup is packaged with world cup so if RTE want to show world cup they have to show confederations cup
And Sky are showing a game...

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 17/06/2017 17:30:39    2000642

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Couldn't be lookin at that aul stuff , sure turn on the radio.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 17/06/2017 17:31:27    2000643

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Not sure how true/accurate that is, BBC will be showing World Cup but aren't obliged to show Confederations Cup.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 503 - 17/06/2017 18:35:48    2000655

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The Mainstream sports media in this country is fairly Rugby and to a lesser extent Soccer orientated. Open any newspaper and you will see page after page of Rugby. And lots of UK football also. Nothing wrong with this, but it is not nice if you are a non Rugby fan.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 17/06/2017 21:41:14    2000758

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Or indeed the, "GAA-Sky Sports deal 'very troublesome and against ethos"'
Which was recently signed up to between the two parties for another 5 years and for a sum of 56 million euros, so anyone who doesn't have access to sky tonight for the Meath/Kildare match can twiddle their thumbs. Now, even if RTE wanted to televise the Meath/Kildare game they simply couldn't as it was "exclusive to sky." So now RTE apparently have to take a back seat and let the gaa/sky dictate to them what game they can or cannot televise live.

supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts: 2907 - 17/06/2017 21:48:22    2000765

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Even if they are obliged to show the confederations cup, they could've shown one of today's matches on RTE 1.
I was surprised to see that none of the earlier matches were being televised.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2033 - 17/06/2017 21:48:53    2000766

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It's hard to believe that some people like GAA and Soccer, some like GAA and not Soccer, some like Soccer and not GAA and bizzarely some people don't like any sports of any description.

And some people would complain if RTE showed all games today live today on TV and the player, or if Sky TV had all the games on or if BBC TV had all the games on.

Because you can't please everyone.........

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 17/06/2017 22:09:31    2000775

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Replying To galwayford:  "The Mainstream sports media in this country is fairly Rugby and to a lesser extent Soccer orientated. Open any newspaper and you will see page after page of Rugby. And lots of UK football also. Nothing wrong with this, but it is not nice if you are a non Rugby fan."
Open any newspaper and you will see page after page of Rugby.

Even more absolute ring than before.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 17/06/2017 22:14:48    2000781

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http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-consider-reducing-live-tv-coverage-as-overexposure-fears-grow-31029114.html

kerryluck (Kerry) - Posts: 2517 - 17/06/2017 23:08:37    2000817

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All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 17/06/2017 23:37:57    2000861

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Replying To kerryluck:  "http://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/gaa-consider-reducing-live-tv-coverage-as-overexposure-fears-grow-31029114.html"
that article is from 2015. interesting all-the-same.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/06/2017 00:19:40    2000887

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Replying To riverboys:  "All the talk of rugby and I wouldn't mind but Ireland are hardly mentioned only an amalgamated team touring New Zealand that means damn all to us, there was 6 GAA matches on show today Sky had the late game 7pm Leinster semi but RTE could have shown any of the other 5 games if they were allowed to, the worrying aspect of TV coverage is already the GAA are bending down to Sky with major games being played on Saturday evenings instead of the normal Sunday, they pulled this stunt with soccer in England where they told the Leagues we want a game on at 12 noon, 5pm, Monday nights, Friday nights and the Leagues had no choice but to buckle and the GAA will do the same, they are already starting to talk the talk, bladdering on about showing and promoting our games overseas, ya, how many non Irish throughout this world are watching our games, they may flick it on for a few mins then switch it back to their original channel when the ads are over. How many TV advertisements do you see along the sidelines about TV coverage of games like you see at soccer matches, none, neither RTE or Sky give a sh##e about promoting our games, they see it for ratings and a chance to cash in on a growing market. There are players from our top teams that are recognised in any part of Ireland but overseas nobody knows who they are yet when a soccer player sneezes it makes the papers and news all over the world. The GAA should realise it's they not the TV companies that call the shots, the GAA make the decision on the time not the TV companies"
The vast majority of inter county players all prefer to play on Saturdays rather than Sundays for a start.

The recovery time from games these days usually means players end up having to take days off on Mondays following Sunday games so players as a whole have been calling for more Saturday games.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1326 - 18/06/2017 08:45:51    2000947

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Replying To tearintom:  "The vast majority of inter county players all prefer to play on Saturdays rather than Sundays for a start.

The recovery time from games these days usually means players end up having to take days off on Mondays following Sunday games so players as a whole have been calling for more Saturday games."
Plus they can go on the lash on Saturday night and don't have to miss Monday from work.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 18/06/2017 10:43:29    2001009

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Players might but supporters with youngsters don't, anyway we don't get the perks that players get, they aren't paying for food and fuel

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 18/06/2017 16:08:47    2001180

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Replying To riverboys:  "Players might but supporters with youngsters don't, anyway we don't get the perks that players get, they aren't paying for food and fuel"
What? Players get 'perks' like food and fuel? Shock horror!!

So they should give up most of their free time - evenings and weekend, time away from family etc. etc. and not get basic compensation (not perks!!) like food and fuel??

jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 18/06/2017 16:41:05    2001204

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Replying To galwayford:  "The Mainstream sports media in this country is fairly Rugby and to a lesser extent Soccer orientated. Open any newspaper and you will see page after page of Rugby. And lots of UK football also. Nothing wrong with this, but it is not nice if you are a non Rugby fan."
Ya, rugby seems to get a disproportionate amount of coverage. Considering soccer is probably the largest by way of popularity and numbers, closely followed by gaa. Rugby is way behind them.

I'd watch tiddlywinks if it was on so not complaining too much!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1825 - 18/06/2017 17:54:11    2001245

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Ya, rugby seems to get a disproportionate amount of coverage. Considering soccer is probably the largest by way of popularity and numbers, closely followed by gaa. Rugby is way behind them.

I'd watch tiddlywinks if it was on so not complaining too much!"
GAA is by far and away the larger than both soccer and rugby in terms of participation. And my point is not to set sports against each other I just think that showing Russia v New Zealand or Portugal v Mexico in a totally unimportant tournament is a waste of resources, and that some Irish sport could have been shown instead. Even an airtricity league match would be a more appropriate thing for our national broadcaster to be showing, rather than giving a platform to New Zealand soccer players

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 18/06/2017 21:07:46    2001393

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Not sure how true/accurate that is, BBC will be showing World Cup but aren't obliged to show Confederations Cup.
Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts:200 - 17/06/2017 18:35:48
ITV are showing the world cup as well and theyre showing the confederations cup.
RTE are only irish channel with world cup so have to show confederations cup

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/06/2017 21:33:07    2001413

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The Mainstream sports media in this country is fairly Rugby and to a lesser extent Soccer orientated. Open any newspaper and you will see page after page of Rugby. And lots of UK football also. Nothing wrong with this, but it is not nice if you are a non Rugby fan.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts:974 - 17/06/2017 21:41:14
Rugby and Soccer are the main pro sports so access to players is easier and information is easier accessible with pro sports but why do you say not so nice if not rugby fan? Why not not so nice if not a rugby/soccer fan??

Or indeed the, "GAA-Sky Sports deal 'very troublesome and against ethos"'
Which was recently signed up to between the two parties for another 5 years and for a sum of 56 million euros, so anyone who doesn't have access to sky tonight for the Meath/Kildare match can twiddle their thumbs. Now, even if RTE wanted to televise the Meath/Kildare game they simply couldn't as it was "exclusive to sky." So now RTE apparently have to take a back seat and let the gaa/sky dictate to them what game they can or cannot televise live.
supersub15 (Carlow) - Posts:1616 - 17/06/2017 21:48:22
people who dont have sky dont have to twiddle their thumbs they can access sky if they really want to. Go to a friend. go online and get a stream online. use a friend who has sky and use their online sky go account
RTE cant dictate that they show all games. Its not their product to sell its the GAAs

Even if they are obliged to show the confederations cup, they could've shown one of today's matches on RTE 1.
I was surprised to see that none of the earlier matches were being televised.
WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts:15 - 17/06/2017 21:48:53
They are obliged to show the confederations cup and no they couldnt just show one of the matches on RTE1. They cant just have sport live on both channels at same time. not always possible

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 18/06/2017 21:48:37    2001425

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