National - Matthew Fitzpatrick suspension

What the hell is going on in there? Gone from a 1 game ban to a 48 week ban?!?!? What happened?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:4350 - 16/05/2017 11:19:08   1987039

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GAA has a huge problem on its hands. The banning of a player for one week, and then increasing it to 48 weeks is a mess. I feel for Matthew Fitzpatrick. It is another example of smaller counties being treated badly by GAA. The thoughts of likes of Dublin, Kerry or Mayo being treated like this is just alien. How in Gods name did the CHC come up with this? Why does a decision take so long? The influence of County boards are still high in GAA, and need to be diminished. The inconsistency of suspending players, and looking into details through a referee's report are outdated. The rule of suspension, appeal and black cards are just different each game and each week. First and foremost, the inconsistency of referring leads to players getting frustrated. The players need to be treated better, and the rules need to be implemented properly. For all.......

soraghallaigh (Cavan) - Posts:15 - 16/05/2017 13:18:34   1987078

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irish news suggesting it was misleading the investigation, which is ridiculuos if true

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1734 - 16/05/2017 14:08:35   1987099

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can I ask what he done in the 1st place and what evidence is there?

GAA_1212 (UK) - Posts:9 - 16/05/2017 14:10:34   1987101

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Antrim and Belfast should tell Croke Park to shove it, the disgusting third class way they have treated us over the years. The GAA is directly responsible for the derisory state of Gaelic Games in Belfast.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts:8610 - 16/05/2017 14:52:09   1987128

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Replying To bumpernut:  "irish news suggesting it was misleading the investigation, which is ridiculuos if true"
You're sh*tng me?!?!?! What about the number of appeals that go in against striking even with video evidence that get overturned. What do you call your fella from Mayo a few years ago that hit Murphy in a QF? He got his overturned even though it was a blatant strike. Either he admitted to striking and got his ban rescinded or else he denied it and is quite obviously lying to the CCCC.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:4350 - 16/05/2017 15:19:15   1987141

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Replying To bumpernut:  "irish news suggesting it was misleading the investigation, which is ridiculuos if true"
I know nothing about this case but if he misled an official investigation then he should be punished. Lying to an official investigation should not be tolerated and should be punished severely.

Again before i have my head taken off.....I don't know that he did lie, I don't know what he was being investigated for and I don't know anything about the guy!!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts:386 - 16/05/2017 15:44:23   1987159

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Replying To gotmilk:  "You're sh*tng me?!?!?! What about the number of appeals that go in against striking even with video evidence that get overturned. What do you call your fella from Mayo a few years ago that hit Murphy in a QF? He got his overturned even though it was a blatant strike. Either he admitted to striking and got his ban rescinded or else he denied it and is quite obviously lying to the CCCC."
he probably got off because the name was not in Irish or the report not signed in the correct spot. think it was a technicality issue. but ur core point is correct. those cases are ridiculous and a solution should be found to ensure people cannot get off like that.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts:386 - 16/05/2017 15:47:51   1987160

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Replying To gotmilk:  "You're sh*tng me?!?!?! What about the number of appeals that go in against striking even with video evidence that get overturned. What do you call your fella from Mayo a few years ago that hit Murphy in a QF? He got his overturned even though it was a blatant strike. Either he admitted to striking and got his ban rescinded or else he denied it and is quite obviously lying to the CCCC."
Apparently he was caught on a video which was being used to investigate someone from Armagh, not sure if it was mcgeeney or an armagh player.

So it seems he has got 48 weeks for telling a porky!

Im wondering is this also a punishment directed at the management team who wouldn't/couldn't identify him from a still photograph they were shown

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1734 - 16/05/2017 16:09:51   1987176

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Replying To Mayonman:  "I know nothing about this case but if he misled an official investigation then he should be punished. Lying to an official investigation should not be tolerated and should be punished severely.

Again before i have my head taken off.....I don't know that he did lie, I don't know what he was being investigated for and I don't know anything about the guy!!"
Do you not think 48 weeks is a touch excessive for being economical with the truth?

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1734 - 16/05/2017 16:21:12   1987180

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Replying To bumpernut:  "Do you not think 48 weeks is a touch excessive for being economical with the truth?"
It's like the ban administered to a player in Donegal for criticising the county board in a tweet a few years back.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:4350 - 16/05/2017 16:41:56   1987188

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A 48 week ban for this is ludicrous. Sure I would say there are lies told at every appeal hearing, how else would they get off.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts:747 - 16/05/2017 16:55:15   1987199

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Replying To bumpernut:  "Do you not think 48 weeks is a touch excessive for being economical with the truth?"
i don't know that he was economical with the truth. I don't know the extent but it sounds like it was more clear cut than exaggeration or under playing an incident.

But if someone tells a blatant lie to an investigating committee i think they should suffer the consequences.....again i know nothing about this case.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts:386 - 16/05/2017 17:44:54   1987231

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There are people out there who have been convicted of serious crimes and done less time in Irish state prisons than the 48 week ban playing an amature sport for telling a lie. Only in this organization ladies and gents. Only in this organization.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts:12202 - 16/05/2017 18:03:32   1987240

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The whole committe around CCCC,CHC,DRA or whatever else has always been a joke. This is just another one added to the list. Did he have to swear on the Bible to tell the truth,the whole truth and nothing but the truth.....I don't think so. Antrim should tell GAA to stick it.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts:1448 - 16/05/2017 18:33:25   1987246

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Replying To waynoI:  "There are people out there who have been convicted of serious crimes and done less time in Irish state prisons than the 48 week ban playing an amature sport for telling a lie. Only in this organization ladies and gents. Only in this organization."
Agreed Wayno . A certain Dublin superstar smashed a mans face in and got less. Awful world we live in.
This incident really has escalated. I'm I right in saying he left the panel anyway after he was suspended for the first round off the championship to go to armercia? Very messy situation

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts:760 - 16/05/2017 20:14:51   1987271

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Replying To Mayonman:  "I know nothing about this case but if he misled an official investigation then he should be punished. Lying to an official investigation should not be tolerated and should be punished severely.

Again before i have my head taken off.....I don't know that he did lie, I don't know what he was being investigated for and I don't know anything about the guy!!"
If you can get two years for 'misleading', then I think a lot of Croke Park top brass might be in trouble.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts:831 - 16/05/2017 20:47:58   1987289

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Silly suspension, if they wanted to send a message about lying to committee then double initial ban. Two matches. Serious enough but not a joke like this. Hq gone off their rockers.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts:11723 - 16/05/2017 21:12:49   1987297

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Crazy stuff. What evidence is he giving. if he did something and they can prove it then fair enough ban away. but under no circumstances does this type of thing merit a year out of the game

kanu (Cavan) - Posts:143 - 16/05/2017 21:29:46   1987305

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In rugby if you plead guilty the punishment is a bit less severe but then again pleading not guilty bans are not that severe. Disciplinary records are taken into consideration same should be done in the GAA.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts:1448 - 16/05/2017 21:59:08   1987317

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