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Very likely that Kildare will go up as they only need one win. In terms of 2nd while we may be favourites Meath are the danger. Slightly easier run in for them and if we finish level on points they will go up on head to head. I hope we don't regret losing by a point to the Royals in Navan. Ever since Enniskillen in round 2 we have missed Damien Comer as a key target man particularly for tricky away games. Going to be missing in Newry next Sunday so hopefully others step up. We have plenty of forward options but many are of similar type in terms of style. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 20/03/2017 09:34:49 1968928 Link
What is the deciding factor for position in table obviously after points gained? Is it Head to Head and then Points Difference or is just Points Difference. The table in Hoganstand has Down above Fermanagh so they must be going on Points Difference but Fermanagh beat them for the first game. I thought Head to Head was used last year eamonkeown (Fermanagh) - Posts: 23 - 20/03/2017 10:16:58 1968949 Link
Replying To eamonkeown: "What is the deciding factor for position in table obviously after points gained? Is it Head to Head and then Points Difference or is just Points Difference. The table in Hoganstand has Down above Fermanagh so they must be going on Points Difference but Fermanagh beat them for the first game. I thought Head to Head was used last year" think it is head to head ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/03/2017 10:50:59 1968976 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "Very likely that Kildare will go up as they only need one win. In terms of 2nd while we may be favourites Meath are the danger. Slightly easier run in for them and if we finish level on points they will go up on head to head. I hope we don't regret losing by a point to the Royals in Navan. Ever since Enniskillen in round 2 we have missed Damien Comer as a key target man particularly for tricky away games. Going to be missing in Newry next Sunday so hopefully others step up. We have plenty of forward options but many are of similar type in terms of style." but if kildare win their game on sunday,they will be up going to galway. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/03/2017 10:52:02 1968977 Link
Replying To kiloughter: "Very likely that Kildare will go up as they only need one win. In terms of 2nd while we may be favourites Meath are the danger. Slightly easier run in for them and if we finish level on points they will go up on head to head. I hope we don't regret losing by a point to the Royals in Navan. Ever since Enniskillen in round 2 we have missed Damien Comer as a key target man particularly for tricky away games. Going to be missing in Newry next Sunday so hopefully others step up. We have plenty of forward options but many are of similar type in terms of style." kildare home or away sunday? ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/03/2017 10:53:03 1968978 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "kildare home or away sunday?" Anyone in Kildare thinking we are already up would be a fool, there's a massive game against Clare next week and we know who came out on top last time we played. The positives are there and we are playing in Newbridge which should give us a slight edge. I wouldn't fancy going to salthill needing a win. Apart from a late goal against Derry there's been a good consistency and confidence about us this year- hopefully that continues. jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 20/03/2017 11:24:42 1969000 Link
Replying To eamonkeown: "What is the deciding factor for position in table obviously after points gained? Is it Head to Head and then Points Difference or is just Points Difference. The table in Hoganstand has Down above Fermanagh so they must be going on Points Difference but Fermanagh beat them for the first game. I thought Head to Head was used last year" If 2 teams finish on the same points head-to-head is used, if 3 or more finish on the same points scoring difference is used. This applies even if 1 team has beaten 2 other sides it finished equal on points with. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/03/2017 11:29:14 1969002 Link
I also taught it was head to head but radio yesterday was under the impression it's score difference.Brenda Cummins kept on about it and the chap that presents Sunday sport. Kc77 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 20/03/2017 18:05:34 1969232 Link
Replying To Kc77: "I also taught it was head to head but radio yesterday was under the impression it's score difference.Brenda Cummins kept on about it and the chap that presents Sunday sport." Unless the system has changed Kc77, then it's head to head when two teams finish level on points. If Three or more then it's decided by scoring difference. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2986 - 20/03/2017 18:35:28 1969245 Link
Replying To lilywhite1: "Unless the system has changed Kc77, then it's head to head when two teams finish level on points. If Three or more then it's decided by scoring difference." Yea taught that allright but just the way they kept going on about it yesterday i wondered had it changed Kc77 (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 20/03/2017 19:15:11 1969258 Link
Of course will accept whatever yardstick now in situe (and I think ye are right that it is head to head) personally I think it should always be scoring difference for one reason and one reason only...it promotes attacking football. However the rules are such you just have to accept them. Hopefully it won't come to it from our perspective but think there will be one or two twists and turns yet. In fairness league more intriguing than championship for most teams. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 20/03/2017 21:24:48 1969311 Link
Kildare look dead certs now for promotion and I fancy Meath to make a big drive for that other spot but I believe whoever comes up will be competitive next year in Div 1. Galway and Kildare have been going in the right direction a couple of years now and with Mc Entee at the helm in Meath I can only see them improving too. I would love to see a system were 4 teams went down and 4 promoted each year,it would lessen the gap between divisions and make every game more important. CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 63 - 20/03/2017 22:47:35 1969338 Link
Replying To CaogaCuig: "Kildare look dead certs now for promotion and I fancy Meath to make a big drive for that other spot but I believe whoever comes up will be competitive next year in Div 1. Galway and Kildare have been going in the right direction a couple of years now and with Mc Entee at the helm in Meath I can only see them improving too. I would love to see a system were 4 teams went down and 4 promoted each year,it would lessen the gap between divisions and make every game more important." You make a very good point about increasing the amount of teams who go up and down, TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 21/03/2017 10:32:29 1969403 Link
i think of all the teams in Div 2 Galway are the most likely to be able to step up and stay up I think that its too early for the likes of Kildare and especially Meath and if they did go up the hammerings theyd get would set them back years Anyway with us taking points in Pairc Tailteann on Sunday Meath will just have to wait. And sure hell if Fermanagh win their last 2 games and galway lose theirs. we'll be going up to Div 1 anyhow Id love to see 3 divisions in football with 11, 11 and 10 teams. lets face it more league games that are more competitive and of more interest to the true fan than the annual championship fiasco. 10 leagues games per year sounds good to me AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 24/03/2017 16:28:23 1970751 Link
Replying To AnBuachaillGlas: "i think of all the teams in Div 2 Galway are the most likely to be able to step up and stay up I think that its too early for the likes of Kildare and especially Meath and if they did go up the hammerings theyd get would set them back years Anyway with us taking points in Pairc Tailteann on Sunday Meath will just have to wait. And sure hell if Fermanagh win their last 2 games and galway lose theirs. we'll be going up to Div 1 anyhow Id love to see 3 divisions in football with 11, 11 and 10 teams. lets face it more league games that are more competitive and of more interest to the true fan than the annual championship fiasco. 10 leagues games per year sounds good to me" Agree AnBuachaillGlas 10 league games would be great. There is little interest in the early rounds of the Championship, with the possible exception of the Ulster Championship.Ideally a home and away league system would best. With 7 games the league is just getting going when it's over. lilywhite1 (Kildare) - Posts: 2986 - 24/03/2017 17:29:45 1970769 Link
Replying To lilywhite1: "Agree AnBuachaillGlas 10 league games would be great. There is little interest in the early rounds of the Championship, with the possible exception of the Ulster Championship.Ideally a home and away league system would best. With 7 games the league is just getting going when it's over." It also looks like you are headed for div 1 ... might not be the best thing for u for next year ... maybe a year down the line ... anyway we will never see home and away leave the season length doesn't permit it ... but I agree that the league only gets going and you have the nonsense of last year div 2 that had 4 teams finish joint 4th with Armagh relegated on points diff and fermanagh listed 4th who Armagh beat ... 10 matches would leave daylight between finishing places AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 24/03/2017 19:24:38 1970804 Link
Replying To AnBuachaillGlas: "i think of all the teams in Div 2 Galway are the most likely to be able to step up and stay up I think that its too early for the likes of Kildare and especially Meath and if they did go up the hammerings theyd get would set them back years Anyway with us taking points in Pairc Tailteann on Sunday Meath will just have to wait. And sure hell if Fermanagh win their last 2 games and galway lose theirs. we'll be going up to Div 1 anyhow Id love to see 3 divisions in football with 11, 11 and 10 teams. lets face it more league games that are more competitive and of more interest to the true fan than the annual championship fiasco. 10 leagues games per year sounds good to me" Very confident ..we won't doing celebratory laps if we loose anyway ..you reckon fermanagh would blow division 1 and not get hammering setting them back years no? royal7 (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 25/03/2017 17:27:11 1970972 Link
Replying To royal7: "Very confident ..we won't doing celebratory laps if we loose anyway ..you reckon fermanagh would blow division 1 and not get hammering setting them back years no?" No one was doing celebratory laps man. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 25/03/2017 19:40:54 1970992 Link
Replying To royal7: "Very confident ..we won't doing celebratory laps if we loose anyway ..you reckon fermanagh would blow division 1 and not get hammering setting them back years no?" I never said it wouldn't harm us .... div 2 will suit us just fine ... poor oul Meath eh AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 25/03/2017 20:45:39 1971005 Link
Replying To royal7: "Very confident ..we won't doing celebratory laps if we loose anyway ..you reckon fermanagh would blow division 1 and not get hammering setting them back years no?" I never said it wouldn't harm us .... div 2 will suit us just fine ... poor oul Meath eh AnBuachaillGlas (Fermanagh) - Posts: 287 - 25/03/2017 22:57:38 1971036 Link