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Sean Cavanagh

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Replying To martinjoe:  "According to this website, http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/290482 there were 27 cards issued including 6 reds, sounds alot for a match without a "single dirty blow"!"
Your post is very much indicative of the type of assumptions being made. All of the reds were for second bookable offences. If a strike or dirty blow was hit, there would have been a straight red. It sounds like a very niggly and messy game for sure. Not one I'd have paid money to watch, but that's a long way from the insinuations that have been made.
For example, both Galway-Mayo games this year (League and Championship) had dangerous strikes which led to red cards, one of which caused a player to be concussed and miss the next match. I don't recall any of the same outcry after either game.
This isn't a dig at Mayo, but a call for factual reporting rather than throwing enough mud so that it sticks.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2037 - 18/09/2018 11:06:24    2142399

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I think he was correct to post a picture of his injury so anyone who was at the game could see how he was. Didn't he have to leave the scene in an ambulance?

Suas Sios (None) - Posts: 1550 - 18/09/2018 13:19:29    2142453

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Replying To gahfan:  "There is a culture of cynicism in tyrone football"
why do you highlight the it is Tyrone did we not see fighting break out in a club Match in Kildare and also in a club hurling match in Derry last weekend, also what a bout the all Ireland final a few years ago when Tadhg Kennelly took Murphy out at the start of the match, and if you go back to recent matches between Galway and May the amount of cards and injuries and not a word about them in fact was there not a Mayo play out due to concussion so I think the problem is more wide spread than just Tyrone.

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 18/09/2018 13:26:05    2142456

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Replying To Belclare1:  "I just saw footage on line and there was a lot to see.. a disgrace. Nothing new up in Tyrone.. book should be thrown at both clubs"
Was there more to see than was on offer in Fenway Park last year when Galway and Dublin's hurlers were battering each other ? Some people on here need to wise up and stop with the self righteous nonsense. Behaviour like what happened in any of these 2 club games in Tyrone is also happening all over the country and nobody likes to see it. Last year a Leinster club game had 10 or so fellas shown red cards but I'd say it didn't get half the attention on here.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 18/09/2018 13:26:55    2142457

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "Was there more to see than was on offer in Fenway Park last year when Galway and Dublin's hurlers were battering each other ? Some people on here need to wise up and stop with the self righteous nonsense. Behaviour like what happened in any of these 2 club games in Tyrone is also happening all over the country and nobody likes to see it. Last year a Leinster club game had 10 or so fellas shown red cards but I'd say it didn't get half the attention on here."
It's really interesting even reading some of the comments on this thread..a lot of self righteous comments and judgements about Tyrone football which is typical of the anti Tyrone agenda being perpetrated within the media. If this incident highlights anything it demonstrates how insidious this campaign is and with no basis for the claims that are being made on this thread..

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 18/09/2018 13:56:10    2142464

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I was not at the game so I cannot comment, obviously some experts will always have an opinion. Why would anyone pay any attention to what Matt Cooper writes as he is the guy who is expert on everything -a sure sign of a fool. RTE falls within the same category-a bit of research to determine facts costs money and time so they all go for the easy option -sensationalism which in may cases bears little to what actually happened. Why does this get so much coverage when there are towns and cities in our country with significantly more incidents on a daily basis some life threatening, without any reports.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 18/09/2018 14:19:44    2142475

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im still waiting for the mass outrage about the cynicism and nastiness of wicklow football...yes..just as we thought ..double standards

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 19/09/2018 22:14:11    2142810

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Replying To A Another:  "Cavanagh and an Edendork player went up for the ball. Cavanagh caught it and went to ground and was turning to get up when a third man came sliding in and caught him with knee's to the head. It's open to interpretation whether it was deliberate or not but the video will hopefully clear it up. If there was intent the player deserves a long ban for such a dangerous tackle. Given the ball was high in the air before Cavanagh caught it, it is difficult to understand why the Edendork player came in as he did, Edendork are claiming he was pushed. Again the video should clear it up.

People saying they have saw the video are talking nonsense as it isn't on any social media. They are referring to the Stewartstown Strabane game the night before. There was no brawl at the Moy Edendork match as such. Ref was quite fussy and there was a lot of pulling of the ball and high challenges leading to a serious amount of cards."
this seems like the most sensible post regarding this matter and I am prepared to believe you.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/09/2018 13:09:14    2142883

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Replying To A Another:  "Cavanagh and an Edendork player went up for the ball. Cavanagh caught it and went to ground and was turning to get up when a third man came sliding in and caught him with knee's to the head. It's open to interpretation whether it was deliberate or not but the video will hopefully clear it up. If there was intent the player deserves a long ban for such a dangerous tackle. Given the ball was high in the air before Cavanagh caught it, it is difficult to understand why the Edendork player came in as he did, Edendork are claiming he was pushed. Again the video should clear it up.

People saying they have saw the video are talking nonsense as it isn't on any social media. They are referring to the Stewartstown Strabane game the night before. There was no brawl at the Moy Edendork match as such. Ref was quite fussy and there was a lot of pulling of the ball and high challenges leading to a serious amount of cards."
"Cavanagh caught it and went to ground and was turning to get up when a third man came sliding in and caught him with knee's to the head."

Why would there ever be a need to slide into a tackle following a mark?!

halfbackward (UK) - Posts: 77 - 20/09/2018 13:46:13    2142902

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after an investigation by the tyrone county board, the injuries to sean cavanagh have now been deemed to be accidental..will the many posters on here who made outrageous comments about the incident now man up and put up an acknowledgement now that they got it wrong...it was outrageous that the edendork team and players were castigated in this way

mayotyroneman (Tyrone) - Posts: 1821 - 22/09/2018 21:56:10    2143300

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Christ if that's what they call accidental I'd hate to malice.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 22/09/2018 23:00:45    2143307

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "after an investigation by the tyrone county board, the injuries to sean cavanagh have now been deemed to be accidental..will the many posters on here who made outrageous comments about the incident now man up and put up an acknowledgement now that they got it wrong...it was outrageous that the edendork team and players were castigated in this way"
100%. The amount of people who commented on this match, calling it thuggery and assault without having even seen it was disgraceful. This includes quite a lot of the media who were happy to continue linking the story of Sean Cavanagh's injuries with an unrelated intermediate match in which there was a brawl.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2037 - 22/09/2018 23:09:14    2143308

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I agree, and as the owner of the OP I have already stated that I got swept along with chit chat and have admitted that if I got it wrong I would take back my post so to speak. On this evening's proceedings I officially apologise for jumping on the bandwagon. And I am genuinely glad to hear it was accidental.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 23/09/2018 01:21:26    2143318

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This was just media trying to put a spin on this. There was no incident which warranted a straight red card in this match. All this game was, was an example of an over-fussy referee giving out cards too easily. Just because cavanagh got hit, does not mean it was deliberate and in fact it may not even have been a foul. Many people have no logical reasoning skills whatsoever. Many here and elsewhere seem to think automatically that an injury means a foul must have occurred

890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 23/09/2018 08:02:09    2143326

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "after an investigation by the tyrone county board, the injuries to sean cavanagh have now been deemed to be accidental..will the many posters on here who made outrageous comments about the incident now man up and put up an acknowledgement now that they got it wrong...it was outrageous that the edendork team and players were castigated in this way"
OK, definitely castigation of Edendork team and players totally wrong by both media and keyboard warriors, totally wrong! However Sean Cavanagh must take ownership to some extent as to how this developed, firstly by putting the photo on whatsapp (albeit he says he only shared it to one friend, naive?), he gave no indication that there might be an accidental cause of the injuries, surely knowing that in the context of a game where cards were like confetti, inevitably sensational conclusions were going to be arrived at.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 674 - 23/09/2018 16:13:35    2143364

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I think I have to apologise for some comments on here, the way this whole game was presented was very poor reflection on media. Cavanagh could/should have killed the speculation which was very unfair on the other team and players.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 23/09/2018 17:36:47    2143375

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We all love a headline , in a lot of cases there's no smoke without fire , it seems this occasion didn't have a match or an ember , lesson learnt

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 23/09/2018 18:29:59    2143382

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Replying To arock:  "I think I have to apologise for some comments on here, the way this whole game was presented was very poor reflection on media. Cavanagh could/should have killed the speculation which was very unfair on the other team and players."
But sure he has a book to sell

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 24/09/2018 09:28:13    2143459

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "after an investigation by the tyrone county board, the injuries to sean cavanagh have now been deemed to be accidental..will the many posters on here who made outrageous comments about the incident now man up and put up an acknowledgement now that they got it wrong...it was outrageous that the edendork team and players were castigated in this way"
It will be interesting when the video of the incident surfaces.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 130 - 24/09/2018 11:29:34    2143500

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I think it's time that Ballyhale and Ballyragget were banned from the Kilkenny championship for the next two years. I've just witnessed the events that unfurled in yesterdays game via Buff Egans snapchat. To quote the man himself, it's absolutely deplorable. No place for it in any game. Now I expect the rest of you to join in and lambaste them considering the footage is there for all to see.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 24/09/2018 11:57:14    2143505

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