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Replying To sam57: "Whats the ticket situation for this match, is it a sell out or are the still tickets available? I was hoping to go but wont know until Saturday if I can definately attend" No longer online but you should get a ticket in SuperValu/Centra greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 19/07/2018 13:14:51 2123750 Link
Replying To westkerry: "Sam unless all of Monaghan show up you are safe enough." You'd be suprised, we might all be in Clones on Sunday. Might leave one or two behind to look after Carrick, Blaney, Ballybay etc. FinlaysLeftFoot (Monaghan) - Posts: 33 - 19/07/2018 13:18:10 2123752 Link
Replying To wfkerry: "To be honest Monaghan are average enough couldnt beat Fermanagh beat a Kildare team who were beaten by Carlow as poor as Kerry were we were only a point behind Galway hitting 70 minutes and we were poor if Kerry improve 10% they will beat Monaghan i think Monaghan are believing there own hype that they are some kind of a super team what did MCmanus do last week not alot if Kildare had there shooting boots on they would have won" ...funningly enough, if you bothered to check your stats, Monaghan had more wides than Kildare & got 2 pts when goals were on! Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 442 - 19/07/2018 13:56:15 2123761 Link
Replying To Eddie the Exile: "far from it. you have never lost to us. why would it be any different this time??" Mainly because it's a very young team playing in Clones for the first time against a partisan home crowd. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/07/2018 14:19:01 2123774 Link
Replying To westkerry: "Those posters calling Kerry over hyped and living on past glories are loosing the run of themselves. Kerry fans know where this team is at, we have a team of kids 19/20/21 learning senior football. The hype didn't come from Kerry it came from others like Brolly looking to much into two games. This is a 2/3 year project and if we go out on Sunday all is not lost. I know many will rejoice at that prospect but that says more about them and their own counties. Kerry fans need to look at the bigger picture and our boys will do their best on Sunday and thats all anyone can ask." As a matter of interest how many of your starting 15 against Galway are under 21 yrs ? Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 19/07/2018 14:21:18 2123776 Link
Replying To Shelbourne: "As a matter of interest how many of your starting 15 against Galway are under 21 yrs ?" 4 were 21 or under and a total of 7 playing their first championship game. westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 19/07/2018 14:41:55 2123782 Link
Huge pressure on the Kerrymen, they simply have to win. There's no chance they can win an All Ireland this year but their still capable of reaching a final if they can get out of the group and avoid Dublin which would be important to their development. Go out at the group stages and have Kerry have drifted back into the pack and are no longer a top 4 side. I think losing might do them a favour in the long run as I think Fitzmaurice isn't up to the job. JDF (Galway) - Posts: 322 - 19/07/2018 15:32:30 2123793 Link
Replying To patk: "And if my auntie had balls etc. etc. Forget about the fact that we missed loads of chances ourselves and should have been clear only for the wides. The point about McManus is also pretty funny. If he had scored 10 of our 15 pts then the tired old "one man team" line would be trotted out. But when he has one of his quieter days and we still win with other lads stepping up, then that's an excuse to bash him aswell! Can't win I suppose." To be fair it's a well supported stat that McManus struggles to score from play in Championship games in Croke Park. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a field day in Clones on the weekend if Monaghan are dominant though. greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 19/07/2018 15:36:50 2123795 Link
Replying To westkerry: "4 were 21 or under and a total of 7 playing their first championship game." Galway have similar stats, a few starting are 21 or under the likes of Kelly, Cooke, Sean Andy and Daly are all very young The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 706 - 19/07/2018 16:17:45 2123811 Link
Replying To The_DOC: "Galway have similar stats, a few starting are 21 or under the likes of Kelly, Cooke, Sean Andy and Daly are all very young" I think though there is too much made of the Kerry momentary 'capitulation'. In fairness it was not Kerry hyping themselves up. Fitzmaurice very measured before and after. Even the conversation on them has spread to the Kildare Galway thread. Bottom line is Group 1 is wide open and I would be surprised if either of the matches on Sunday are landslides one way or other. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 19/07/2018 19:15:39 2123839 Link
Replying To JDF: "Huge pressure on the Kerrymen, they simply have to win. There's no chance they can win an All Ireland this year but their still capable of reaching a final if they can get out of the group and avoid Dublin which would be important to their development. Go out at the group stages and have Kerry have drifted back into the pack and are no longer a top 4 side. I think losing might do them a favour in the long run as I think Fitzmaurice isn't up to the job." There is big pressure on the boys but there is big pressure on Monaghan also, if Monaghan lose they'll end up having to head to Galway looking for a win and will be in a semilar scenario that we're in now, plus who ever finishes second in the group has only a 6 day turn around to play the dubs. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 19/07/2018 19:32:17 2123842 Link
Replying To westkerry: "4 were 21 or under and a total of 7 playing their first championship game." Then by your own admission your statement that "we have a team of kids 19/20/21 learning senior football" is incorrect. Furthermore your average age is likely to increase on Sunday with the addition of a few more experienced players........rushing too many young players together into your starting 15 is a deliberate choice by Kerry management...if it doesn't work then the buck stops with them...a county the size of Kerry doesn't need to do this ...might work in the hurling province of Munster but at best a big risk in the super 8s. Anyway let's hope we have a great game on Sunday and may the best team win ! Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 19/07/2018 21:00:33 2123867 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "There is big pressure on the boys but there is big pressure on Monaghan also, if Monaghan lose they'll end up having to head to Galway looking for a win and will be in a semilar scenario that we're in now, plus who ever finishes second in the group has only a 6 day turn around to play the dubs." I didn't realise group 2 winners and runner up spot was decided after 1 game !! superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 19/07/2018 21:02:43 2123869 Link
Replying To greatpoint: "To be fair it's a well supported stat that McManus struggles to score from play in Championship games in Croke Park. Wouldn't be surprised if he had a field day in Clones on the weekend if Monaghan are dominant though." Any leading forward in the country would, as you put it, "struggle to score from play in Championship games in Croke Park" if they were double/treble marked as happens with McManus. Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 19/07/2018 21:13:49 2123873 Link
If Kerry try and play the same game plan they did against Cork then they are cooked. Unless they can kick points from between the 65 and 45 they will struggle to break us down and if we turn them over we have some serious hard runner's to brake at speed and get it to our forwards and they will score. Look at the cork game again and look at how bad the defence was on both side's. Cork didn't even try to defend. mon07 (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 19/07/2018 22:55:22 2123891 Link
Replying To Shelbourne: "Any leading forward in the country would, as you put it, "struggle to score from play in Championship games in Croke Park" if they were double/treble marked as happens with McManus." Does he not get marked as heavily in games outside Croke Park or something? greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 20/07/2018 01:19:14 2123922 Link
This is a massive opportunity for Monaghan, an opportunity of dining at the top table at the expense of many peoples favourites. If they don't grasp it , it may have long term consequences for the team. Vishred (Mayo) - Posts: 303 - 20/07/2018 08:03:21 2123929 Link
Good luck on Sunday Monaghan, if we play to our potential we have a massive chance of winning. Hard to know what to expect from Kerry but it wont be easy. Hon the Farney a great chance to get to the semi finals! Muineachain76 (Monaghan) - Posts: 180 - 20/07/2018 09:04:19 2123936 Link
Replying To greatpoint: "Does he not get marked as heavily in games outside Croke Park or something?" I'm not sure I get the point you're making about McManus, I doubt he scored alot more heavily from play away from Croke Park, unless you want to provide those stats? He scores alot of frees regardless of the venue but he wins most of them himself too, he can hardly do much about that. Against Down in Croke Park last year he scored 10 pts but 8 were frees. I don't have to watch it back to know he had a big part in winning alot of those frees, and sure isn't a point worth the same either way? patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 20/07/2018 10:05:08 2123954 Link
Replying To greatpoint: "Does he not get marked as heavily in games outside Croke Park or something?" Being double or treble marked by Waterford, Leitrim or Laois defenders as opposed to Dublin, Tyrone, Kerry usually in Croker ..........bit of a difference to say the least ! Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 20/07/2018 11:27:08 2123977 Link