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So those who run Pairc Ui Chaoimh will allow any band this side of China play on the hallowed turf provided they make a few bob for the GAA. Meanwhile Liam Miller, a soccer player who played GAA as a child and who died so prematurely, leaving a young family behind receives the thumbs down when the organisers of his benefit match sought use of the stadium. THe Pairc holds 45,000 people while the said organisers can now only plan around 7,000, the maximum crowd the Cork City grounds can hold. What was the attendance at the recent Clare/Wexford hurling quarter final in Cork. Told it was less than 10,000 and was also told that business people in the city ie hotels, bars, restaurants etc. concerns who regularly help out the local GAA club, were hugely disappointed at the lack of return from this clash. Here was a great opportunity for the GAA to show a great gesture of goodwill, make a euro or four for that business sector and above all help out a young wife and children. Yes there are rules, minor issues that are side stepped every day of the week in every walk of life in this country. It all smacks at some elements of the GAA remaining in the 1960's. Can only pray that it is still not too late and that the decision can be reversed. Surely this is what the ordinary members of Cork GAA want. Triple H (Meath) - Posts: 551 - 19/07/2018 12:03:43 2123724 Link 6 |
Backwards move from the organisation. It's time that rule was done away with. Reminds me of the club in Longford who got nailed for having the audacity to allow a soccer club in the area use their pitch for a summer camp.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 19/07/2018 12:08:12 2123725 Link 2 |
I couldn't agree more, sometimes the rules need to be bended, and if ever there was a case for this, this was it. This would have been a wonderful occassion for all involved, and not only would it have massively benefited Liam Millar's family, it would have showcased Pairc Ui Caoimh as well as making the GAA a lot of money.
gilly0512 (Galway) - Posts: 1176 - 19/07/2018 12:09:12 2123726 Link 1 |
Sad day for the GAA and the Cork community as a whole. With the debacle of Newbridge or nowhere and now this they really don't care how they are perceived and they don't care about the ordinary man on the street. Life is more important than sport and this would have been a great chance to show the family of LIam Miller that despite sporting divides we can help shoulder their grief a little. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 19/07/2018 12:47:30 2123741 Link 1 |
As an association, its seems to be moving further and further away from community! Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 19/07/2018 13:10:01 2123747 Link 2 |
Cork county board not to blame here, it was a motion passed at congress which prevents it. Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 19/07/2018 13:35:37 2123756 Link 0 |
This is a total disgrace and shows the GAA in such an antiquated light. They really must put no value on goodwill or PR. It's hard to believe there's no way around allowing Pairc Ui Chaoimh to be used for this match or that nobody can use their initiative and make it happen. They surely don't think anyone would have an objection within the GAA community to allowing the rules to be bent on this one very exceptional and great cause occasion. Cop on, let the match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh and everyone will be the better of it, especially Liam Miller's family. kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 19/07/2018 13:36:14 2123757 Link 3 |
Backwards looking decision. Knoxboya (Monaghan) - Posts: 357 - 19/07/2018 14:12:54 2123770 Link 1 |
In fairness the GAA do have a system for this kind of thing and if they organised it well in advance it could (and probably would) have had passed at the AGM. The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 705 - 19/07/2018 14:15:37 2123772 Link 0 |
GAA - more than happy to remove rules such as Rule 21 which was voted against by all but one of the affected Counties yet keep rules like this in place which prevent use of the grounds for another sport - and especially when the cause would be one which most right thinking people would support. The Organisation is losing support of people on a daily basis it seems over rules, structures, finance etc etc. They are slowly killing what was once a great Organisation. Thank God for clubs and grass roots is all I can say. Let them not ruin that as well!!! Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 19/07/2018 15:20:37 2123790 Link 1 |
While I'd like to see it played in Pairc Ui Caoimh I totally understand that there are rules in place for a reason. The stadia are to promote gaelic games who are in a tougher than ever battle for the hearts and minds of the youth from professional sports. dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 336 - 19/07/2018 15:24:12 2123791 Link 2 |
Was wondering when this would come up , personally have no issue with the game going ahead in any GAA ground particularly for the cause in this instance, however if you take emotional circumstances away for a second wasn't there a massive hullabaloo on here re rules been broken re Kildare playing in HQ , there is currently a big debate re Dublin getting so called home games , my point is we are the association US if you are a club member OUR rules, if WE don't like them then it's up to US to help enforce change , or we could get a keayboard and a soap box less work , populist posts are all the rage at the moment Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 19/07/2018 15:44:07 2123797 Link 2 |
Everyone here who is a member of a club has the opportunity to change these rules every year 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 19/07/2018 16:01:07 2123802 Link 1 |
First and foremost as we all know cancer is a terrible disease that sadly affects most familys in one way or another. IrelandUnited (Tyrone) - Posts: 77 - 19/07/2018 16:09:21 2123805 Link 1 |
well they wouldn't let 2-3 clare gaels on the pitch at the weekend,what hope is there of them letting a few man united players onto it? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 19/07/2018 16:15:27 2123807 Link 2 |
But it's too late to wait until February to change the rule in this case. Why can't there be a committee to arbitrate on requests like this one where there isn't 6 months to play around with? There's committees for all sorts of stupid stuff in the GAA, don't see why they couldn't have one for an exceptional case like this. How come Ed Sheeran was able to play in Galway's pitch if this rule is only applying to Croke Park? If Taylor Swift and Sheeran can play on a GAA pitch, i can't understand why Roy Keane can't! And i don't see why you should take the emotion out of it, it's an emotional subject for anyone touched by cancer. Call me populist if you like, but life isn't always black or white.
kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 19/07/2018 18:00:17 2123828 Link 2 |
Terrible decision. The GAA seem to only pick and choose when to implement this rule. bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 19/07/2018 20:07:37 2123853 Link 1 |
Embarrassing, playing the game in PUC ffs. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 19/07/2018 20:09:16 2123855 Link 2 |
I would love to see the game being played in the pairc, any family that suffers through this ugly disease deserves the best chance of gaining from it. Unfortunately last i heard was the game was going to be played at 3 pm on a tuesday as there is a gala ball that evening in the city hall also as a fundraiser. Surely this game could be fixed for a Friday or Saturday evening therefore ensuring a bigger attendance therefore putting extra pressure on the gaa to open an olive branch to other sports and also to show that the association is not being run by a pack of dinosaurs. Time for the GAA to drag themselves into modern times and in all fairness what harm would it do only maybe get the hundreds maybe thousands that are leaving in their droves because of the way it is run may return because of a simple but very important decision. RIP Liam a cork sporting hero to all, gone but not forgotten mrsme (USA) - Posts: 172 - 19/07/2018 21:37:30 2123876 Link 1 |
Unbelievable & unforgivable decision. A complete lack of common sense, empathy, humanity & a PR disaster from an Association going from one car crash to another. Let's not forget that €30 Million of the public purse went to this project & supposedly there were conditions on it, in particular making it available to the community for charitable purposes. Surely this meets those conditions, it's a charity game not a competitive game. Are they afraid that a charity soccer game will sell out the capacity ? But who is surprised, this project went way over budget, the pitch itself has been very poor as we saw earlier in the year, cutting up everywhere. No problem letting the RWC be there to get the €30 Million or holding concerts and let's not forget that the Cork ladies footballers the greatest ladies team ever, have never being allowed play C'ship at PUC. Hiding behind the "needing to be passed at Congress" story suits them all, but let's not forget this Board were the leading speakers against the CPA motion on having transparency at Congress, that will tell you all you need to know. Liam Miller was a fine sportsman, a former GAA member as a child,his whole hearted ness & honesty on the field was an example to all, if they cannot as an Association honour a local & national sportsman they should have any further funding withheld. Another cock up. Uimhir.a.3. (Galway) - Posts: 409 - 19/07/2018 23:08:29 2123895 Link 1 |