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The Dubs In Aughrim

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "If what you mean by a two tier championship having Dublin in one tier and the other 31 counties in tier 2 I'd agree with you."
Yawn ! D- must try harder .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 16/05/2018 23:32:44    2101554

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Replying To kildare73:  "What about Tipperary and Fermanagh making the semi finals in recent years and Clare making the quarter finals? Would they have been a top or bottom tier team at the time in your eyes? They all got there on merit and created a great atmosphere within those counties at the time."
So let's keep it cause once every hundred years a weaker county might make it to a semi final.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 17/05/2018 10:52:22    2101631

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Yip. Keep the strong stronger and the weak weaker."
But you're idea will be another waste of time the top two teams will hammer the bottom two teams and nothing will really change. At least in a two tier competition you have a chance of winning a few games against teams of you're own standard.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 17/05/2018 10:59:39    2101636

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Yawn ! D- must try harder ."
am I exaggerating Or have ye only been beat twice in 4 years in league and championship?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 17/05/2018 12:16:57    2101670

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "So let's keep it cause once every hundred years a weaker county might make it to a semi final."
So no weaker county has the right to dream? To have ambition? Does it put a stronger county out that much to have to play them? Even non league teams are allowed into the FA Cup in England and the big teams happily travel to their grounds without a word said. Every county is allowed to have something to strive for, to go up against a big gun and try take them down. More and more the GAA is becoming about the haves and never going to have, and the have nots and never allowed to have. Same few teams every year regurgitating the same games. Everyone else can just go off and do their own thing.

kildare73 (Kildare) - Posts: 854 - 17/05/2018 15:35:01    2101730

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "But you're idea will be another waste of time the top two teams will hammer the bottom two teams and nothing will really change. At least in a two tier competition you have a chance of winning a few games against teams of you're own standard."
Try and improve the standards of the so-called weaker counties and narrow the standards between top and bottom so that all counties have some sort of a chance.

Is that difficult to understand?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7335 - 17/05/2018 15:57:56    2101735

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Very insightful article by Ewan Mc Kenna in the Indo that nails this. In today's Gaa it's no great surprise, all you have to do is look at recent appointments & the original criteria for same requiring a business degree. Boycott will be of no use Ewan as most people have given up caring due to apathy & hence all the facts you outlined re Wicklow & clubs etc. Their retort will be that attendances are up along with viewing figures for the big games at the end of the year not that only 12 kids showed up to see the flagship team in Wicklow or club teams are folding. Animal Farm is alive & well within the Gaa.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 17/05/2018 21:15:42    2101806

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Best of luck to Wicklow & John Evans today in their on average three hour 160 km round trip journey for their home game v the football, financial & political clout of the mighty Dubs. Great credit to the Leinster Council, our outgoing DG, our current DG & the Gaa for creating such inequity. I'm sure that next years meet & greet for Wicklow footballers will be a massive success, probably best to hold it in the home pitch at O Moore park. C'mon Wicklow !!

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/05/2018 10:41:16    2104091

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Best of luck to Wicklow & John Evans today in their on average three hour 160 km round trip journey for their home game v the football, financial & political clout of the mighty Dubs. Great credit to the Leinster Council, our outgoing DG, our current DG & the Gaa for creating such inequity. I'm sure that next years meet & greet for Wicklow footballers will be a massive success, probably best to hold it in the home pitch at O Moore park. C'mon Wicklow !!"
Agreed best of luck to both teams today im heading of now soon. Great to have the championship back, the crowd today will be interesting.

On a side note, we can see clearly why the Leinster Council has made the decision to try and keep Dublin in Croke Park. Its purely financial at the expense of Wicklow and Dublin from a sporting point of view and purely a financial one.

On the Leinster Council's website Financial Statements
on Gate Receipts for 2017 - http://leinstergaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2018/01/Leinster-Accounts-1.pdf

3rd June Carlow vs Dublin at Portlaoise - €173,507
(Attendance: 13,238)

25th June semi final - Dublin vs Westmeath - €473,870
(Attendance: 33,370)

Leinster football final - Dublin vs Kildare - €1,413,595
(Attendance: 66,734)

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 27/05/2018 11:02:45    2104100

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Agreed best of luck to both teams today im heading of now soon. Great to have the championship back, the crowd today will be interesting.

On a side note, we can see clearly why the Leinster Council has made the decision to try and keep Dublin in Croke Park. Its purely financial at the expense of Wicklow and Dublin from a sporting point of view and purely a financial one.

On the Leinster Council's website Financial Statements
on Gate Receipts for 2017 - http://leinstergaa.ie/wp-content/uploads/sites/33/2018/01/Leinster-Accounts-1.pdf

3rd June Carlow vs Dublin at Portlaoise - €173,507
(Attendance: 13,238)

25th June semi final - Dublin vs Westmeath - €473,870
(Attendance: 33,370)

Leinster football final - Dublin vs Kildare - €1,413,595
(Attendance: 66,734)"
Enjoy the game.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 27/05/2018 12:19:26    2104110

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Can someone really tell me this is good for Wicklow football?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2018 16:24:55    2104167

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I accept it's huge but after ten minutes you'll probably change your mind , I've seen it loads of times weaker counties buzzing before they play Dublin but then the reality hits home when it's a cake walk for Dublin and the beaten county is totally deflated , wondering why they bother and it sets them back years. I don't think the crowd will be that big either."
Am I right?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2018 17:14:16    2104192

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Thank god this car crash of a game was not on TVs game over after 7 mins by the sound of it.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 27/05/2018 17:40:57    2104207

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Game drew less than 12,000 and yet everyone else has to go out of their way to make room for the hordes and hordes of travelling Juggernaut fans

What am I missing????

37thHeaven (Kerry) - Posts: 102 - 27/05/2018 17:53:12    2104216

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Replying To 37thHeaven:  "Game drew less than 12,000 and yet everyone else has to go out of their way to make room for the hordes and hordes of travelling Juggernaut fans

What am I missing????"
Apart from bias and a brain I can't think of anything else at the moment.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 27/05/2018 17:58:55    2104218

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Replying To 37thHeaven:  "Game drew less than 12,000 and yet everyone else has to go out of their way to make room for the hordes and hordes of travelling Juggernaut fans

What am I missing????"
You expected us to sell out O Moore Park for a game against Wicklow ? Our we idiots? Plenty big games coming up you'll see our support don't worry about that.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 27/05/2018 17:59:02    2104219

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Great team beats up on mediocre team. It was fully expected and happens in every sport. No need for sensationalist comments like saying it will take years for Wicklow to recover!

Pantani (Dublin) - Posts: 48 - 27/05/2018 17:59:28    2104220

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Dublin won by exactly what they were expected to win by. There is a massive gulf in class. Wicklow did well to score 1-11 in fact. No need for the snide comments. The lads tried hard. No doubt it would have been better to have had the game in Aughrim. Yes the scoreline would have been roughly the same, but are entitled to home advantage as was stated last October and which would have been given to Offaly. Our home ground holds 10,500... there were only 12,000 there today, so could Aughrim have held the match. Certainly it could. If Manchester United draw Bury Town in the FA Cup we dont switch the game to Anfield.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 27/05/2018 18:26:45    2104234

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And to those who say there are no good footballers in Wicklow, I'll correct them, there are not enough good footballers in Wicklow. Let's not forget Rathnew turning St Vincents over for their first defeat in Leinster Club Championship since 1982 in Aughrim last October. Diarmuid Connolly's been in Damien Power's since then.

Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 27/05/2018 18:43:54    2104239

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Replying To Wicklowman:  "Dublin won by exactly what they were expected to win by. There is a massive gulf in class. Wicklow did well to score 1-11 in fact. No need for the snide comments. The lads tried hard. No doubt it would have been better to have had the game in Aughrim. Yes the scoreline would have been roughly the same, but are entitled to home advantage as was stated last October and which would have been given to Offaly. Our home ground holds 10,500... there were only 12,000 there today, so could Aughrim have held the match. Certainly it could. If Manchester United draw Bury Town in the FA Cup we dont switch the game to Anfield."
Totally agree, the lads played well and all gave it a great shot, it is a pity it wasn't played in Aughrim, for the sake of 2000 people but I thought the Wicklow support done well, they were noisey and cheered everything on. It was lovely st the end to see the Wicklow children getting jerseys signed and taking pictures with the Wicklow players, this team could regain some much needed support, the qualifiers could prove interesting

WW9 (Wicklow) - Posts: 109 - 27/05/2018 18:48:17    2104240

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