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Replying To browncows: "Totally over the top-ye must have been great player yourself! Very difficult to play two big games inside 5-6 days and a poor decision by powers to be. May do Kerry no harm in the longer term. Hard luck to the beaten teams and the best of luck to both teams in what is the last u21 final-it has been a great competition over the years." Won't do Kerry any harm how do you make that out. ?Try telling that do the Kerry player's tonight name me a player who would want to be beaten in an All ireland semi final dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 15/04/2017 21:27:20 1979720 Link
The Connacht final thriller against Sligo will stand Galway in good stead for the All Ireland final. salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 15/04/2017 21:32:42 1979724 Link
Replying To Gael85: "A great day for the underdog is all I can say :) Really surprised Dublin came through even more Kerry losing." How about giving Galway a little credit ?What's so suprising about Kerry loosing they were overrated and completely outclassed by a far superior team today game should have been over by half time if Galway hadn't taken their foot of the pedal dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 15/04/2017 21:36:35 1979726 Link
Well done to Dublin, far superior team on the day and the scoreline did not flatter them. Donegal just looked out on their feet and never got going. It might have made no difference to the result but the short turnaround from the Ulster final seemed to be too much for Donegal. As for the comments on Donegal being poor to watch, although bad today they have been excellent in Ulster. You have to give Dublin a lot of credit also as they defended brilliantly, sone fierce tackling. Great result for Galway today, should be a great final and best of luck to both sides. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1873 - 15/04/2017 21:38:18 1979727 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Mayo you better win Sam soon cause Galway are the future my god how good were they? I'm not going to dog young lads but I couldn't see one player from Kerry that's senior standard they all looked like kids with no build yet besides 14, now there only young and can have bad days but the hype I think was a bit ott. Galway have some amount of class players coming through number 3 7 8 9 11 14 15 are outstanding." Mayo won u-21 last year. We keep producing too but I agree if Galway were to win Sam again before us it would be a double kick in teeth. Anyway we can only look after our own house. yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 15/04/2017 21:48:41 1979733 Link
Replying To yew_tree: "Mayo won u-21 last year. We keep producing too but I agree if Galway were to win Sam again before us it would be a double kick in teeth. Anyway we can only look after our own house." Mayo were blesssd to Win the 21 championship last year , only two players showed any senior ability and they were already on mayo senior panel, Galway already have way more impressive players coming through than mayo. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 15/04/2017 22:30:40 1979748 Link
Won't do Kerry any harm how do you make that out. ?Try telling that do the Kerry player's tonight name me a player who would want to be beaten in an All ireland semi final dubarra (Wicklow) Very clever post!! Where in my post did I say that Kerry wanted to be beaten?, or are you a mind reader. Nobody wants to be beaten, however there is always a loser at the end. That group of players have won minor AI/Hogan cups. Getting beaten is part of one's football life and good players can respond positively. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 15/04/2017 22:54:09 1979753 Link
I thought Galway were super today, a great start and they never really looked back well done should a terrific final a fitting end to the U21 competition. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 15/04/2017 23:18:16 1979760 Link
Galway going for three U21 All Irelands this decade (2011 & 2013 and hopefully 2017) It would be some achievement. Put that with the Corofin club title in 2015 and Galway minors winning the last two Connacht championships they are beginning to move along nicely and build a panel. They really have got their act together, long may it continue. It was amazing to see the humility after the match from the players. Gerry Fahy has done great job and the players have repaid him. EDH (Galway) - Posts: 367 - 15/04/2017 23:49:21 1979766 Link
Replying To EDH: "Galway going for three U21 All Irelands this decade (2011 & 2013 and hopefully 2017) It would be some achievement. Put that with the Corofin club title in 2015 and Galway minors winning the last two Connacht championships they are beginning to move along nicely and build a panel. They really have got their act together, long may it continue. It was amazing to see the humility after the match from the players. Gerry Fahy has done great job and the players have repaid him." Humility is a very good trait to have in a team. Hopefully Galway seniors can win a few All Ireland's. crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 16/04/2017 09:27:39 1979783 Link
Replying To MuckrossHead: "First I've heard of it besides which I don't think it's any big deal. These are young fellas who are raring to play football given that they are in a winning team that is going well. It should also be remembered that neither the Cavan or Derry games were dogfights with plenty opportunities to take fellas off before the end. Besides which if they weren't playing they would be training & I know which I would rather be doing." I intentionally waited to the game was played to reply and see the outcome. Just wondering do you still think it's not any big deal? letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 16/04/2017 10:07:08 1979789 Link
Replying To browncows: "Won't do Kerry any harm how do you make that out. ?Try telling that do the Kerry player's tonight name me a player who would want to be beaten in an All ireland semi final dubarra (Wicklow) Very clever post!! Where in my post did I say that Kerry wanted to be beaten?, or are you a mind reader. Nobody wants to be beaten, however there is always a loser at the end. That group of players have won minor AI/Hogan cups. Getting beaten is part of one's football life and good players can respond positively." Misread your post Point taken . dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 16/04/2017 10:21:17 1979793 Link
Donegal it's not the 5 day turnaround that bet you it's the same tactic that the whole country knows what your going to do that bet you, the Dublin motm said after the game " ah we knew how Donegal would set up so we knew how to counteract that" 5 day turnaround had nothing to do with it these are under 21's as fit as they come clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 16/04/2017 10:29:31 1979795 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Donegal it's not the 5 day turnaround that bet you it's the same tactic that the whole country knows what your going to do that bet you, the Dublin motm said after the game " ah we knew how Donegal would set up so we knew how to counteract that" 5 day turnaround had nothing to do with it these are under 21's as fit as they come" I very much agree with what you are saying. I've no doubt Dublin were well drilled on what to expect and how to counteract it. Add that to a very good team and you greatly enhance the odds of a Dublin, or any other team, assuming they're equally good, win. In defence of the team and manager, certainly not the tactics and set-up (and to be honest it's more than tactics and approach now, it's an entire mindset and template for how we play) the 5 in 17 days or 4 in 12 days games is just downright wrong. Yes, players this age are fit but this was a championchip and not some blitz tournament. All the best. DonegalAtlantic (Donegal) - Posts: 111 - 16/04/2017 11:29:16 1979805 Link
Replying To clondalkindub: "Donegal it's not the 5 day turnaround that bet you it's the same tactic that the whole country knows what your going to do that bet you, the Dublin motm said after the game " ah we knew how Donegal would set up so we knew how to counteract that" 5 day turnaround had nothing to do with it these are under 21's as fit as they come" Better team won. BUT five day turnaround had a huge difference. Mentally more than anything else. Passes aren't as sharp, shots aren't as accurate and tacking not what it should be. Take into account Dessie Farrell has watched us twice in the flesh. Imagine asking the Dublin seniors to play An - Ireland semi final five days after winning Leinster against a winners of another province that has say two to three weeks prep time. DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 16/04/2017 11:36:48 1979812 Link
What a great day of football yesterday, thourally enjoyed it two brilliant games its such a pity this is the final year of the tournament. Am hugely surprised, but pleasantly so that Dublin are in the final. A brilliant team performance and i feared the worst when King Con, rugby tackled and got lack after 3 minutes, deserved black card uder the rules by the way, straight out of the Dermo Connolly flawed genius handbook. On reflection ive been a little hard on this vintage i think ive previously said only King Con, Comerford and Byrne (maybe) would make the senior panel eventually. After yesterdays showing you can add the back three to that and Paul Howard looks some player as well was a joy to watch him yesterday. Was very impressed with Murchan as well. Great to see Clayton come on and come back from injury. Thought Basquel played very well and showed up for a lot of the ball in King Cons absence, his finishing was massively poor for a player with his big game experience. Loosing Foley to injury as well didn't help but didn't deter a great team performance. King Con needs to buy his teammates a few rounds over the next couple of nights. I thought Donegal lost it in the tactical battle, Dessie had the team well prepared for how Donegal would set up. I was amazed they didn't change tack from their game plan. Some of their shot selection was very poor and constantly recycled the ball when going for the throat was the better option. Heads never dropped though and a very good team, you would have to say the Ulster Council has a lot to answer for given the length of time they had to prepare for the game. The GAA just can never get it right, can they. What a game Kerry Vs Galway was, what a team Galway looked. All the more remarkable given the success as a minor team have have had and the hope and expectations of this first wave of this cycle Kerry under age generation. Undoubtedly very talented skillful players but you never know how lads will develop through the age groups, skill will take you so far and when other teams are equally as skillful, more physically developed and down right better battlers then your in trouble. Galway were miles the better team and look a very serious outfit and likely to be going forward some wonderful players in every line. The Kerry lads would know more then me, but i think Spillane will add to the senior ranks and i was very impressed with Kerry's Keeper yesterday looks a very very good goal keeper and a hulk of presence. Where to start with Galway some wonderful players in that squad really impressed with Ó Ceallaigh, Cooke, Darcy and Daly. But would be wrong to pick out players from a really brilliant team performance. Hard to see beyond Galway after yesterdays performance, but think it will be a brilliant final, Galway have a tendency to concede decent scores. Hopefully Dublins good back line can road block the annihilation of the first quarter Galway imposed on Kerry. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 16/04/2017 12:31:45 1979833 Link
Misread your post Point taken . dubarra (Wicklow) No offence intended in my post. I also think it is a pity that this competition is in its final year as it was a great outlet for 20 and 21 year old players. browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 16/04/2017 13:15:13 1979844 Link
Replying To browncows: "Misread your post Point taken . dubarra (Wicklow) No offence intended in my post. I also think it is a pity that this competition is in its final year as it was a great outlet for 20 and 21 year old players." Agreed. It's a crying shame it would serve the powers that be better if they would address the over use of the handpass and get rid of the black card. I'm of the opinion if you got rid of the handpass there would be no need for black card dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 16/04/2017 13:22:56 1979845 Link
Replying To browncows: "Totally over the top-ye must have been great player yourself! Very difficult to play two big games inside 5-6 days and a poor decision by powers to be. May do Kerry no harm in the longer term. Hard luck to the beaten teams and the best of luck to both teams in what is the last u21 final-it has been a great competition over the years." My footballing abilities or lack of it have nothing to do with Donegal and their poor excuse for football. I agree they looked tired but this an excuse for been so poor in the opening half. Even with 15 minutes to go they refused to press the Dublin kick out, felt sorry for the players as they've been let down by their management. TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 16/04/2017 13:36:55 1979849 Link
Kerry and Donegal do not play Gaelic football, whoever wins against Galway/Dublin at least Gaelic wins. maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 16/04/2017 13:58:22 1979854 Link