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Anybody know what league games are scheduled to be shown live this year?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 23/01/2017 10:37:48    1948000

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anyway, This is the way the div will end up :

Dublin
Kerry
Mayo
Tyrone
Monaghan
Donegal
Roscommon
Cavan

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 23/01/2017 10:50:50    1948005

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Replying To s goldrick:  "anyway, This is the way the div will end up :

Dublin
Kerry
Mayo
Tyrone
Monaghan
Donegal
Roscommon
Cavan"
I'd be quite surprised if Dublin topped the division. There'll be a lot of players used in this league campaign that haven't been seen before imo.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 23/01/2017 11:08:47    1948016

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I would agree but with a condition. Monaghan are as good as anyone until they get to Croke park. Then they go the way Cork go.
Donegalman (None) - 19/01/2017 17:34:50

To be Donegalman its not a harsh comment by you. I can count our championship wins on one finger in CP. We have faired a little better in the league at CP, played well last year against dubs (lost by a point), did ok the year before in semi final against dubs (lost by a point)...we last won a game there in 2014. You might remember that one ;)

Its more the Tyrone lad thinking they are gonna take some beating...that they have surpassed all the rest. He is either crazy, got some unbelievable intel on all inter county panels for this year or is just trolling about (the last one being the likely culprit)

seanfinn (Monaghan) - Posts: 360 - 23/01/2017 11:25:30    1948025

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Replying To seanfinn:  "I would agree but with a condition. Monaghan are as good as anyone until they get to Croke park. Then they go the way Cork go.
Donegalman (None) - 19/01/2017 17:34:50

To be Donegalman its not a harsh comment by you. I can count our championship wins on one finger in CP. We have faired a little better in the league at CP, played well last year against dubs (lost by a point), did ok the year before in semi final against dubs (lost by a point)...we last won a game there in 2014. You might remember that one ;)

Its more the Tyrone lad thinking they are gonna take some beating...that they have surpassed all the rest. He is either crazy, got some unbelievable intel on all inter county panels for this year or is just trolling about (the last one being the likely culprit)"
Don't be getting wound up by this nonsense, making an a case for Monaghan's relegation prospects because of their Croke Park form needs to be taken with a pinch of salt (or something even more bitter). WTF has CP to do with the league
So we can do well until we get to CP and we don't have to play there, yet this is a reason why we will be relegated ???

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 23/01/2017 12:12:46    1948048

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Replying To seanfinn:  "I would agree but with a condition. Monaghan are as good as anyone until they get to Croke park. Then they go the way Cork go.
Donegalman (None) - 19/01/2017 17:34:50

To be Donegalman its not a harsh comment by you. I can count our championship wins on one finger in CP. We have faired a little better in the league at CP, played well last year against dubs (lost by a point), did ok the year before in semi final against dubs (lost by a point)...we last won a game there in 2014. You might remember that one ;)

Its more the Tyrone lad thinking they are gonna take some beating...that they have surpassed all the rest. He is either crazy, got some unbelievable intel on all inter county panels for this year or is just trolling about (the last one being the likely culprit)"
We won twice in Croker in 2014. The Donegal final and the wash-out against Kildare!

Monaghan08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 188 - 23/01/2017 15:50:56    1948136

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Replying To s goldrick:  "anyway, This is the way the div will end up :

Dublin
Kerry
Mayo
Tyrone
Monaghan
Donegal
Roscommon
Cavan"
That's the way it would end up if league was played at championship competitive level but it's not and the league is harder to predict.

For example Cavan have developed into a good league team, few would have tipped them to reach division one but now there it shouldn't shock anyone if they stay up.

Mayo on the other scale of things a top three championship team have found themselves in relegation battles and if they keep doing that one year they will eventually get relegated.

Mr_Pundit (UK) - Posts: 677 - 23/01/2017 21:04:44    1948237

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Dublin will lift the league again, with Mayo, Tyrone and Kerry all performing well. My guess is relegation will be between Roscommon, Donegal and Cavan. Monaghan doing enough to stay up. Donegal have young talent for sure, but many of these players still have to prove themselves at senior level. The players that have left the squad featured a lot more last year than the young guns coming through, that tell's its own story. I'm also not convinced by the current Donegal management.

Charismatic (Donegal) - Posts: 13 - 23/01/2017 23:39:01    1948278

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Replying To MesAmis:  "I'd be quite surprised if Dublin topped the division. There'll be a lot of players used in this league campaign that haven't been seen before imo."
point taken but I would still estimate that whatever players Gavin uses will be well motivated, well conditioned and posses enough skill and power to win enough points to top the division. Not saying that they will "win" the league but they will top the division , which in my book equates to "winning" the league. I don't believe in this nonsense of having a league semi-final or final. It's a league and as such whoever finishes top should automatically be declared winner.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 24/01/2017 10:18:37    1948341

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No League Semis this year so the top counties can't afford to drop many points.

FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2763 - 24/01/2017 10:35:30    1948345

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Replying To s goldrick:  "point taken but I would still estimate that whatever players Gavin uses will be well motivated, well conditioned and posses enough skill and power to win enough points to top the division. Not saying that they will "win" the league but they will top the division , which in my book equates to "winning" the league. I don't believe in this nonsense of having a league semi-final or final. It's a league and as such whoever finishes top should automatically be declared winner."
Agree that there shouldn't be league playoffs.

Dublin will be decent throughout the league but I don't we'll see as much of the established players until later in the spring.

There'll be chances to get points off of Dublin early in the league as there might well be similar looking teams lining out that we've seen in the O'Byrne Cup. Cavan have a great chance of taking Dublin's scalp in the first game I think, although I'm not sure what their prep has been like.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 24/01/2017 10:38:58    1948348

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Agree that there shouldn't be league playoffs.

Dublin will be decent throughout the league but I don't we'll see as much of the established players until later in the spring.

There'll be chances to get points off of Dublin early in the league as there might well be similar looking teams lining out that we've seen in the O'Byrne Cup. Cavan have a great chance of taking Dublin's scalp in the first game I think, although I'm not sure what their prep has been like."
It's hard to know really how Cavan are going. We tried a lot of new players in the McKenna Cup and some of them did well but when faced with top quality forwards that came on against us for UUj we struggled to contain them. It was hard to see a discernible style or pattern to the play and It's hard to tell what the team line-up will be for the league. We have lost a few really big names since last year. david Givney,Eugene Keating, Cian Mackey, fergal Flanagan, and Gearoid McKiernan (who is currently injured). There is also a doubt about our regular goalkeeper (Galligan) as he is also currently injured and took no part in McKenna cup. So it really is impossible to know how they will go or what team will line out. McKiernan and Givney especially will be missed against the top teams.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 24/01/2017 11:23:11    1948360

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If anyone has been watching Tyrone this year I don't see where we are going to get the points to stay up never mind challenge for league honours. 12 points against Cavan and 14 points against Fermanagh No goals and no goals created. We have not changed a thing from last year still playing a negative boring brand of football which was our downfall last year against Mayo. It wont be any big surprise to see Derry win on Saturday night We need a change of direction and this management seen unwilling/incapable of making the changes required.

rahillyman (Tyrone) - Posts: 314 - 24/01/2017 13:00:32    1948388

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Nearly sure I heard on the radio that Cavan v Dublin game is sold out, is that correct?

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 24/01/2017 13:35:36    1948398

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Agree that there shouldn't be league playoffs.

Dublin will be decent throughout the league but I don't we'll see as much of the established players until later in the spring.

There'll be chances to get points off of Dublin early in the league as there might well be similar looking teams lining out that we've seen in the O'Byrne Cup. Cavan have a great chance of taking Dublin's scalp in the first game I think, although I'm not sure what their prep has been like."
Had been saying that myself thinking wed come into the game with serious momentum behind us.

As it turns out, we exited the mckenna cup early (not sure if this was management's intention) which gives us 2 clear weeks to prepare for the league opener.

Hard to know whether that'll stand to us or not, but as outlined above, the number of absentees is of huge concern.

My biggest worry is that we bust a gut against Dublin, Mayo, Kerry but come up short, then put in flat performances against Ros or Monaghan who we should be looking to peak against.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 24/01/2017 13:46:42    1948402

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really hard to see past Tyrone / Dublin for league and SAM honors this year.
They both seem to have got to a level not previously witnessed in our game.

ulster83 (Tyrone) - Posts: 114 - 24/01/2017 14:05:42    1948412

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Nearly sure I heard on the radio that Cavan v Dublin game is sold out, is that correct?"
No man, still letting you buy tickets on tickets.ie for it.

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 24/01/2017 14:08:21    1948413

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Dublin will be decent throughout the league but I don't we'll see as much of the established players until later in the spring.

Why not?

If you are an intercounty GAA player, then surely you want to play games. Play good games. The opening league game v Cavan will probably have a better atmosphere and better standard than any Leinster championship game.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 24/01/2017 14:31:06    1948424

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Why not?

If you are an intercounty GAA player, then surely you want to play games. Play good games. The opening league game v Cavan will probably have a better atmosphere and better standard than any Leinster championship game.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts:3360 - 24/01/2017 14:31:06

General consensus is that certain fringe players need more game time and that these players should get blooded during the league to see where they are at.

Added to that the players have only just returned from their team holiday this week afaik. I'd expect to see a good number of the O'Byrne Cup Squad in the starting 15 for the Cavan game in anyways.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 24/01/2017 14:56:16    1948438

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Why not?

If you are an intercounty GAA player, then surely you want to play games. Play good games. The opening league game v Cavan will probably have a better atmosphere and better standard than any Leinster championship game.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts:3360 - 24/01/2017 14:31:06

General consensus is that certain fringe players need more game time and that these players should get blooded during the league to see where they are at.

Added to that the players have only just returned from their team holiday this week afaik. I'd expect to see a good number of the O'Byrne Cup Squad in the starting 15 for the Cavan game in anyways."
Sounds like you're making your excuses early Mes.

Scared?? ;)

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5010 - 24/01/2017 15:43:39    1948458

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