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Mapping Hurling strongholds throughout Ireland

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Replying To Jackos_Wacko:  "In Kerry we have 8 senior clubs all in about 20 miles of each other and to make it better:
Lixnaw and Crotta are in the same parish,
Ballyduff and Causeway are in the same parish and
Kilmoyley and St.Brendans are in the same parish."
Hold your effin horses there a minute now Jacko. Don't insult us decent Kilflynn people by claiming we are anything to do with that shower in Lixnaw. I don't care what ecclesiastical map arranging has gone on in the past few years Crotta is Kilflynn parish.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/01/2017 14:28:24    1943719

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Replying To dickie10:  "just wondering has anyone ever seen a map with hurling strongholds or pockets mapped out on a proper irish map? id love to know exactly where they are. by a hurling stronghold i mean more than 3 hurling clubs within a 10 mile radius or an area in a county where hurling is at least on a par or more of intrest than football. in my own region i have roughly mapped it to as far an extent as i can with my knowledge. id love to hear more from other regions though. and it seems to go in regions and across county boundries.

In meath, westmeath and kildare there seems to be one full circle of hurling stronghold region. which if it were all in one county would surely match wexford or galway. this seems to be broadly from Kells in meath at the very north to maybe Clane in kildare in the south, it would roughly go as far west as Mullingar in westmeath to as far east as navan and south east to Rathoath in meath.

this are would now have a huge population, i would consider this region of hurling to stop at the Dublin borders with meath and kildare because dublin seems to be a regioin of itself.

As far as i know there are a large number of hurling only clubs in this region;
Meath:
Kiltale,kilmessan,kildalkey,killyon,rathmolyon,kilskyre.

Westmeath:
Clonkill,raharney,Brownstown,ringtown,cullion, turin, collinstown,

Not sure at all about kildare but hurling is very strong in celbridge, maynooth, leixlip and broadford this covers basically all of north killdare.
meath and westmeath both have another large amount of dual clubs in the region"
There are 12 senior hurling clubs in Meath and all are south of navan

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 07/01/2017 14:41:44    1943724

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Replying To keeper7:  "Actually there used to be something of a hurling area in south Longford from Lanesborough over to Ballymahon with Cashel, Kenagh & Carrickedmond fielding teams at different stages."
Yeah I worked with a lad from Rathcline who had played Hurling for someone over there but as you said yourself those clubs are disbanded. It says on Wolfe Tones website that Hurling was only revived in in the late sixties after a request from the county board and something similiar with Slashers. Have you any further info on that ?

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 07/01/2017 14:56:22    1943732

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "Yeah I worked with a lad from Rathcline who had played Hurling for someone over there but as you said yourself those clubs are disbanded. It says on Wolfe Tones website that Hurling was only revived in in the late sixties after a request from the county board and something similiar with Slashers. Have you any further info on that ?"
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There were actually a half dozen camógie clubs in the county in the 1960's. It disappeared without a trace after a few years but I know someone recently enough compiled a history of it but I can't find anything online.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 07/01/2017 15:39:26    1943753

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There were actually a half dozen camógie clubs in the county in the 1960's. It disappeared without a trace after a few years but I know someone recently enough compiled a history of it but I can't find anything online."
Was just reading this. A few interesting bits in it about Hurling. It says Granard won the Cavan Senior Hurling in 1954.


http://longfordgaa.ie/history/

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 07/01/2017 16:02:40    1943759

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I think there was a rule brought in Mayo few years ago regarding hurling clubs where parishes would have to amalgamate to form a hurling club which usually meant a team built around a town like Ballina, Castlebar, Belmullet, Westport etc a big problem then is the colour of the jersey and the name of the team, a lot of parishes outside towns refuse point blank on wearing the town colour jersey or using the town name, I know of a rural football club that have majority of players pucking around with the hurley and sliotar before and after football training or playing hurling challenge matches with other people away from the football club. Will they play for the hurling team which has the town name and town football colours? Not a chance, they would rather play soccer that wear the enemy jerseys. Now I am open to correction on whether this rule still is in place or not, we have 7 or 8 hurling clubs and I can't see that number expanding

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 07/01/2017 16:54:55    1943773

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Replying To Jack_Sparrow:  "
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There were actually a half dozen camógie clubs in the county in the 1960's. It disappeared without a trace after a few years but I know someone recently enough compiled a history of it but I can't find anything online."
Was just reading this. A few interesting bits in it about Hurling. It says Granard won the Cavan Senior Hurling in 1954.


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According to the Cavan hurling wiki page Granard actually won it in 1950...someone's telling porkie pies! There doesn't seemed to have been any championship in Longford between 1935 & 1981. link

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 07/01/2017 17:35:21    1943787

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Replying To TheHermit:  "Hold your effin horses there a minute now Jacko. Don't insult us decent Kilflynn people by claiming we are anything to do with that shower in Lixnaw. I don't care what ecclesiastical map arranging has gone on in the past few years Crotta is Kilflynn parish."
I'm a Crotta and Kilflynn man too Hermit but I live in the Lixnaw parish like quite a few of the Crotta hurlers :)

Jackos_Wacko (Kerry) - Posts: 417 - 07/01/2017 20:08:32    1943840

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Replying To Jackos_Wacko:  "I'm a Crotta and Kilflynn man too Hermit but I live in the Lixnaw parish like quite a few of the Crotta hurlers :)"
Jaysus so theres two of us on here, hah hah thats good to know!! I'll keep your anonymity if you keep mine ;D Ah sure isnt the mother from Lixnaw, all the more reason to hate them :D

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 07/01/2017 20:28:19    1943846

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so what county with proper backing could make a breakthrough? surely westmeath are now more of a hurling county than football, they beat kilkenny in u21 and operate in the third tier compared to footballers in the fourth tier. Meath are doing huge work underage level and the co board is now well populated with hurling people, also and probarbly most important the hurling area has ahuge opulation compared to non hurling areas if given the right backing and money i think meath could do what dublin have done. The meath fans would also jump on the bandwagon if this happened

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 686 - 07/01/2017 20:46:45    1943853

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All hurling in Kildare is north of Newbridge. Its crazy really that a town like Athy with a population of about 12,000 cant get 15 lads together for a team but its all football in south Kildare. I would say the main hurling area is north west Kildare especiallly the likes of Prosperous and Coill Dubh where it would take precedent over the football. Hurling is also massive in Naas. If you drive through the town you'll see 90% of young lads carrying a hurl with them. Naas underage play in the Kilkenny leagues at some levels and are doing quite well as far as i can see.

11jm11 (Kildare) - Posts: 365 - 07/01/2017 21:26:30    1943863

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Roscommon has a pocket of hurling interest from Oran ( four miles or so ) North of Roscommon town and extends to East side of Ballinasloe with the Padraig Pearses club. Clubs include Uaran, Naomh Dominic ,Ath Liag, Tromaun, Na Piarsaigh ,Gaeil Ros Comain, Ceithre Boithre. Unfortunately no hurling clubs north of Oran and no hurling in Kiltoom , Monksland to the south where Gaelic Football is the mainstay.

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 1079 - 07/01/2017 21:47:51    1943873

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Burt in Donegal have been playing Hurling since ancient times ie before the GAA.THEY won an ulster Senor title 1in 1906 representing Donegal.Although they also play football Hurling is always No 1 there and has an unbroken history,

gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1056 - 07/01/2017 22:04:23    1943876

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Here's a rough map I made... The darker the blue the more hurling is played in that area - might not be 100% accurate but I hope it helps :)

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JXV (Mayo) - Posts: 39 - 08/01/2017 00:32:49    1943886

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Replying To JXV:  "Here's a rough map I made... The darker the blue the more hurling is played in that area - might not be 100% accurate but I hope it helps :)

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Ya must know your Hurling around the country. Good stuff. I'm thinking that there are 12 Westmeath clubs in that darker " Hurling area" on your map and 3 outside of it including Castletown Geoghegan traditionally one of the strongest Hurling clubs but surrounded by football.

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1016 - 08/01/2017 12:30:19    1943920

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Replying To riverboys:  "I think there was a rule brought in Mayo few years ago regarding hurling clubs where parishes would have to amalgamate to form a hurling club which usually meant a team built around a town like Ballina, Castlebar, Belmullet, Westport etc a big problem then is the colour of the jersey and the name of the team, a lot of parishes outside towns refuse point blank on wearing the town colour jersey or using the town name, I know of a rural football club that have majority of players pucking around with the hurley and sliotar before and after football training or playing hurling challenge matches with other people away from the football club. Will they play for the hurling team which has the town name and town football colours? Not a chance, they would rather play soccer that wear the enemy jerseys. Now I am open to correction on whether this rule still is in place or not, we have 7 or 8 hurling clubs and I can't see that number expanding"
7 or 8? Unfortunately I'd say there's 4 at most judging from what I've seen. The Mayo SHC consists of 4 teams, one of whom didn't even field this year. The county team is also made up entirely of those 4 clubs, plus 4 or 5 lads from other counties. I remember a few years ago seeing players from Ballina and Belmullet on Mayo teams, but sadly they seem to be gone.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 08/01/2017 14:53:17    1943942

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Replying To CastleBravo:  "7 or 8? Unfortunately I'd say there's 4 at most judging from what I've seen. The Mayo SHC consists of 4 teams, one of whom didn't even field this year. The county team is also made up entirely of those 4 clubs, plus 4 or 5 lads from other counties. I remember a few years ago seeing players from Ballina and Belmullet on Mayo teams, but sadly they seem to be gone."
Which club didn't field? Westport? Some of the Ballina players are playing with Castlebar now, I think. There were a couple of new underage clubs set up, I heard...?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 08/01/2017 15:46:43    1943956

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thats a great map that area in meath and westmeath that is dark blue would definitly follow hurling more than football

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 686 - 08/01/2017 18:29:22    1944049

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Replying To keeper7:  "Which club didn't field? Westport? Some of the Ballina players are playing with Castlebar now, I think. There were a couple of new underage clubs set up, I heard...?"
Yeah Westport gave walkovers in all their games, and only had one member of the Mayo county panel. I've no idea about underage but it's not looking rosy at senior level with such low numbers.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1643 - 08/01/2017 19:46:20    1944082

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Nice map. Being picky now, but you could move the dark blue west of ennis for about a 15 mile radius. Nothing but hurling there.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 08/01/2017 20:36:23    1944103

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