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Dublin's country imports should face Leinster ban

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http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-dublins-country-imports-should-face-leinster-ban-35292648.html
Thoughts anyone on todays article ?????

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 14/12/2016 13:53:49    1940076

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Nonsense is what it was.

m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 14/12/2016 14:17:23    1940086

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Colm Parkinson was harping on about this last year when Portlaoise were beaten by 'Boden.

Comes up each December as there is nothing to write about

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 14/12/2016 14:19:31    1940087

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I don't think there is much that can be done. Maybe players can only play provincial championship after completing 2 seasons with a new club. Was thinking last weekend how good the club championship would be if you could have clubs like Corofin, Castlebar, St brigids, Scotstown, Crossmaglen, Slaughtniel, Crokes, Dingle, and maybe the top 5 or 6 Dublin clubs playing agianst each other more often. There would be potential for a lot of great games.

Steelfixer (USA) - Posts: 41 - 14/12/2016 14:20:57    1940088

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I agree with this and a rule should be brought in that " any player who transfers from one club to another if he has played Inter County football at any level in the last 3 years" will be not eligible to play in the provincial stages of the all Ireland club championships for 3 years.

Its extremely unfair on clubs who develop their own players and finally win a co.championship then face a team of all stars.
and its not just Dublin clubs, Portlaoise had a few over the last few years & Dr.Crokes have done their own bit of poaching over the years

lasertech (UK) - Posts: 129 - 14/12/2016 14:25:34    1940090

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Lets just split them in two and be done with it.

RoyalBadger (Meath) - Posts: 571 - 14/12/2016 14:26:05    1940091

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didn't even bother to open the link once i saw martin breheny's name on it, that lad has been spoofing for years..........wouldn't know if it was blown up or stuffed

totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 912 - 14/12/2016 14:33:16    1940092

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I wouldn't ban them all . Maybe put a cap of three players from outside the county in total allowed to play in any one game. Has to be applied to clubs throughout the country and not just to Dublin clubs.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 14/12/2016 14:34:06    1940093

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i totally agree with this, i know they come to work in dublin so traveling back to there clubs would be a issue but i think it was said before a cap on players. Vincent's had 5 outsiders playing that to me is taking a club mans jersey who's come through the ranks this gives a massive advantage not in dublin as every team has outsiders but when they come into the province i think it should be just dublin players only If you look at the ulster final you had 2 village teams in the final all lads within there community now they will be at a massive disadvantage in the semi final whereas vin cents without those 5 lads i would say would struggle to win.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 704 - 14/12/2016 14:41:10    1940095

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I don't know what type of rule you can bring in to be fair.

It couldn't just be for Dublin clubs as it happens across the country too. St. Galls won an All-Ireland with Rory Gallagher in good form if memory serves me. Tomás Ó Sé lined out for Nemo in the Munster Championship. They're just two examples of which there are many I'm sure.

If someone transfers into a club in their adopted county in their early twenties and wins a county title ten years later are they still banned from competing at a provincial stage despite being with the club for a decade?

What about transfers within the county? Should they be banned from playing provincially too?

At the end of the day a player pays his club membership and is eligible to play then so be it. The vast majority of those that switch to a new club are doing so because they are putting down roots in a new place and wish to become part of their new communities.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 14/12/2016 14:54:08    1940101

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A cap would be a better idea than a ban. Maybe even a rule that says you have to play with the nearest club to your residence to stop inter county lads picking and choosing which club to play for, or being enticed to choose a particular club. Maybe even the nearest Senior club to your residence.

I don't think that Vincent's had that many starters who didn't come up through the ranks last Sunday btw. They might have a fair few on the panel alright.

Mickmick (Dublin) - Posts: 104 - 14/12/2016 15:45:53    1940122

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Replying To MesAmis:  "I don't know what type of rule you can bring in to be fair.

It couldn't just be for Dublin clubs as it happens across the country too. St. Galls won an All-Ireland with Rory Gallagher in good form if memory serves me. Tomás Ó Sé lined out for Nemo in the Munster Championship. They're just two examples of which there are many I'm sure.

If someone transfers into a club in their adopted county in their early twenties and wins a county title ten years later are they still banned from competing at a provincial stage despite being with the club for a decade?

What about transfers within the county? Should they be banned from playing provincially too?

At the end of the day a player pays his club membership and is eligible to play then so be it. The vast majority of those that switch to a new club are doing so because they are putting down roots in a new place and wish to become part of their new communities."
A honest question our these lads joining just the senior clubs in dublin its ok saying they want to be in the community but if all clubs including junior benefit then so be it but i can't see it myself, the bigger clubs our chasing them as its win at all costs.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 704 - 14/12/2016 15:48:42    1940124

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A honest question our these lads joining just the senior clubs in dublin its ok saying they want to be in the community but if all clubs including junior benefit then so be it but i can't see it myself, the bigger clubs our chasing them as its win at all costs.
Yourjoking (USA) - Posts:316 - 14/12/2016 15:48:42 1940124


The vast majority are joining local clubs where they are living, be they junior, inter or senior clubs.

The best players coming to the capital however tend to be drawn towards the better clubs though. It's only natural and because of the structures within Dublin club GAA very little can be done about that.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 14/12/2016 16:00:19    1940128

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I wouldn't ban them all . Maybe put a cap of three players from outside the county in total allowed to play in any one game. Has to be applied to clubs throughout the country and not just to Dublin clubs.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 14/12/2016 16:08:09    1940131

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Eventually it is a road to nowhere, Vincents spent years in the wilderness, granted they bred Connolly and Quinn (but Mossy is pushing on), but what have they coming? They have brought in Egan, Fennell, Breathnach, Varley etc, where next for them! Would you send your son or daughter there, it will eventually catch up with them. But this has been rampant in Dublin for years, traditionally outsiders played for Civil Service or Garda clubs but Parnells, Brigids and Kilmacud have been bringing in players for years, the biggest probably been the protracted transfer of Paul Curran from Thomas Davis to Kilmacud Crokes. Eamonn Fennell was another high profile case (he threw his toys out of the pram and wouldn't play with his own club) when he wanted to move to Marino.

Personally I think they should be treated liked an amalgameted divisional team and not allowed compete outside the county championship.

Alternatively you could also allow Slaughneil, Dr Crokes and Corofin sign three sort term players between January 1st and March 31st to even things up, give Slaughneil Sean Cavanagh, Peter Harte and Conor Mc Manus, give Corofin Neil Mc Gee, Michael Murphy and Brian Fenton and Dr Crokes, Michael Quinlivan, Gary Brennan and Cillian O Connor. Could you imagine the outcry.

GDL (Galway) - Posts: 719 - 14/12/2016 16:40:16    1940138

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It would bit a bit like amalgamations in eg Kerry not being eligible to play in Munster or certain players being eligible for McRory but not Hogan Cup (is that still a thing?). So not that outlandish really.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 14/12/2016 16:47:41    1940140

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "i totally agree with this, i know they come to work in dublin so traveling back to there clubs would be a issue but i think it was said before a cap on players. Vincent's had 5 outsiders playing that to me is taking a club mans jersey who's come through the ranks this gives a massive advantage not in dublin as every team has outsiders but when they come into the province i think it should be just dublin players only If you look at the ulster final you had 2 village teams in the final all lads within there community now they will be at a massive disadvantage in the semi final whereas vin cents without those 5 lads i would say would struggle to win."
The Vincent's starting team had 14 players that came through the clubs juvenile ranks. I don't see the writer doing much research just another lazy article without dublin football knowledge.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/12/2016 17:05:42    1940142

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "The Vincent's starting team had 14 players that came through the clubs juvenile ranks. I don't see the writer doing much research just another lazy article without dublin football knowledge."
No fan of Brehenys but in fairness he was specifically talking about the standard of substitutes.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 14/12/2016 17:16:21    1940147

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Replying To Breffni39:  "No fan of Brehenys but in fairness he was specifically talking about the standard of substitutes."
Yeah and if he took any notice of Vincent's up till last Sunday the Galway guy that came in for Brennan hasn't been involved really, also the other guy from westmeath hasn't had a run. Brendan Egan has been with Vincent's for years must be nearly 10 years with them at this stage. The only non dub who they have used off the bench was Joe feeney throughout the Dublin and Leinster campaigns. It's just another excuse without any research done.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 14/12/2016 17:29:16    1940149

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "Yeah and if he took any notice of Vincent's up till last Sunday the Galway guy that came in for Brennan hasn't been involved really, also the other guy from westmeath hasn't had a run. Brendan Egan has been with Vincent's for years must be nearly 10 years with them at this stage. The only non dub who they have used off the bench was Joe feeney throughout the Dublin and Leinster campaigns. It's just another excuse without any research done."
It's still a much stronger bench than the over-whelming majority of clubs (Dublin included obviously) could ever hope for. I can see both sides of the argument.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12116 - 14/12/2016 17:37:06    1940151

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