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Replying To janesboro: "Mediaman has provided facts & stats which clearly support that assertion. ---keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:3054 - 19/07/2016 12:28:44 1
and others are showing fact which disagree- six one news had coverage of launch of all ireland series which was positive - no mention of this from the anti rte brigade- look if you view as rte doing something re gaa as being negative fair enough - but be consistent when they do something positive mention that as well." So they did one positive feature? That's it? What other contrary facts are there as presented by others?
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 19/07/2016 13:12:09
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If you think someone is talking nonsense, why feel the need to respond every time he posts?
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1332 - 19/07/2016 12:40:44
Firstly how come you are asking me why i post - but you do not ask mediaman why he posts. Mediaman has a view -he posts, i have a counter view and give my response and supporting info.
How do you know he hasn't contacted rte? --Surely he would have told us by now if he has they aint listening
As for being derogatory, its quite obvious that those who are circling the wagons here are rugby followers
Well two of the main people giving counter arguements me and ormondbannerman like both rugby and Gaa. Is it ok with you if we like both, it is possible to like more than one sport
who have their own agenda and have no problem trying to belittle/poke fun at the OP.
What agenda is this - please give examples as to how i have poked fun at the op.
Im simply saying if you think its nonsense ignore his contributions, there are sufficient number of us who find it informative
yes but some of us dont and wish to counter his contentions ..is it ok with you if we do so?
Maybe bumpernut you might come up with a suggestion or too in order to improve rtes gaa coverage, (maybe a gaa cookery show involving eggs from factory hens!!! - just joking)
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/07/2016 13:15:20
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Replying To bumpernut: " Replying To ormondbannerman: "Could those rte employees or egg chasers who have issues with the info being posted please leave this thread
Some of us find it informative and your constant denials/excuses and whinging are tiresome!
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1328 - 19/07/2016 10:49:49 Why use a petty derogatory term for rugby?
Why doesn't mediaman have an open petition or a more active campaign for change? Why does mediaman want change from RTE yet will not show his own name and put his own name to a campaign for change?
Why does mediaman comment on this topic and this topic alone on this forum?
Its a bit hypocritical to call people like myself, who debate with some of what mediaman posts, whingers when mediaman is simply whinging considering he has yet to show anywhere that he has actually contacted RTE and shown a reply from RTE about why they cover sport in the manner they do" How do you know he hasn't contacted rte? Who's to say he doesn't work for them himself? As for being derogatory, its quite obvious that those who are circling the wagons here are rugby followers who have their own agenda and have no problem trying to belittle/poke fun at the OP. Im simply saying if you think its nonsense ignore his contributions, there are sufficient number of us who find it informative"
Circle the wagons? Who?
I criticise the OP as they don't comment on anything else. They are biased against most other sports and cant seem to grasp that professional sports will always get more coverage than amateur sport.
If you feel that the information provided is so informative why not then use it if you feel that changes should occur considering you believe this information to be true and that changes are needed
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Replying To janesboro: "If you think someone is talking nonsense, why feel the need to respond every time he posts?
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1332 - 19/07/2016 12:40:44
Firstly how come you are asking me why i post - but you do not ask mediaman why he posts. Mediaman has a view -he posts, i have a counter view and give my response and supporting info.
How do you know he hasn't contacted rte? --Surely he would have told us by now if he has they aint listening
As for being derogatory, its quite obvious that those who are circling the wagons here are rugby followers
Well two of the main people giving counter arguements me and ormondbannerman like both rugby and Gaa. Is it ok with you if we like both, it is possible to like more than one sport
who have their own agenda and have no problem trying to belittle/poke fun at the OP.
What agenda is this - please give examples as to how i have poked fun at the op.
Im simply saying if you think its nonsense ignore his contributions, there are sufficient number of us who find it informative
yes but some of us dont and wish to counter his contentions ..is it ok with you if we do so?
Maybe bumpernut you might come up with a suggestion or too in order to improve rtes gaa coverage, (maybe a gaa cookery show involving eggs from factory hens!!! - just joking)" in fairness now janesboro mentioned ormond to support your argument doesnt do much good..clearly pro rugby as are u
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Replying To janesboro: "or maybe you may accept it to be very strange that rte could somehow despite all the action over the weekend, work it into a negative?...seems fairly deliberate ploy to me --- alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:238 - 19/07/2016 11:12:26 1
maybe so - i am merely making the point that rte had some positive gaa coverage over the weekend thats all - maybe the six one news report was deliberately negative, if it was then its a reasonable view that the geansai programme and radio coverage was deliberately positive, i do find it strange that all the focus is on a slot in the six one news, i would be of the view that all the coverage should be taken into account, most of which (not all) in my view was positive" but you never accept or confront it?..why do you always try and deflect from legitimate points?...doesnt do any justice for the debate...generally speaking the coverage is overwhelmingly negative and a lot of evidence supports this
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Replying To janesboro: "we are now in july 1200 posts on and very little suggestions or recommendations for improvement , nearest thing we had is me suggesting (in jest) some gaa themed cookery programmes. so less whinging more suggestions please" how about you confront or at least concede that people have legit points instead of being a cheerleader for rugby like somebody else here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 19/07/2016 14:13:01
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alano - in fairness now janesboro mentioned ormond to support your argument doesnt do much good.
Why is this - is ormonds opinion somehow less valuable than other
.clearly pro rugby as are u
instead of being a cheerleader for rugby like somebody else here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:242 - 19/07/2016 14:13:01
yes i am pro rugby but i am also pro gaa. Is this ok with you , can you accept somebody may like hurling football and rugby and indeed other sports
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/07/2016 14:31:19
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but you never accept or confront it?..why do you always try and deflect from legitimate points?...
do i dont deflect i merely give my counter opinion -
..generally speaking the coverage is overwhelmingly negative and a lot of evidence supports this
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:242 - 19/07/2016 14:11:54 1
and i believe generally speaking the coverage is overhwelmingly negative and a lot of evidence supports this
e.g. on radio - blanket coverage on championship saturdays and sundays on both radio one and radio na gaeltachta
2 or 3 championship games per week on RTE plus sunday game plus league sunday
ancilliary programmes pairc life, the geansai, thank gaa its friday, up for the match, the toughest trade, the marty squad, championship draws, all star awards , the championship radio programme- usually these are all positive bar some of the punditry (but hey soccer and rugby get negative punditry too)
whereas the negative examples seem to stem solely/primarily from six one news
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/07/2016 14:37:37
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alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19
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Replying To janesboro: "If you think someone is talking nonsense, why feel the need to respond every time he posts?
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1332 - 19/07/2016 12:40:44
Firstly how come you are asking me why i post - but you do not ask mediaman why he posts. Mediaman has a view -he posts, i have a counter view and give my response and supporting info.
How do you know he hasn't contacted rte? --Surely he would have told us by now if he has they aint listening
As for being derogatory, its quite obvious that those who are circling the wagons here are rugby followers
Well two of the main people giving counter arguements me and ormondbannerman like both rugby and Gaa. Is it ok with you if we like both, it is possible to like more than one sport
who have their own agenda and have no problem trying to belittle/poke fun at the OP.
What agenda is this - please give examples as to how i have poked fun at the op.
Im simply saying if you think its nonsense ignore his contributions, there are sufficient number of us who find it informative
yes but some of us dont and wish to counter his contentions ..is it ok with you if we do so?
Maybe bumpernut you might come up with a suggestion or too in order to improve rtes gaa coverage, (maybe a gaa cookery show involving eggs from factory hens!!! - just joking)" If you think someone is talking nonsense, why feel the need to respond every time he posts?
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts:1332 - 19/07/2016 12:40:44
Firstly how come you are asking me why i post - but you do not ask mediaman why he posts. Mediaman has a view -he posts, i have a counter view and give my response and supporting info.
How do you know he hasn't contacted rte? --Surely he would have told us by now if he has they aint listening
As for being derogatory, its quite obvious that those who are circling the wagons here are rugby followers
Well two of the main people giving counter arguements me and ormondbannerman like both rugby and Gaa. Is it ok with you if we like both, it is possible to like more than one sport
who have their own agenda and have no problem trying to belittle/poke fun at the OP.
What agenda is this - please give examples as to how i have poked fun at the op.
Im simply saying if you think its nonsense ignore his contributions, there are sufficient number of us who find it informative
yes but some of us dont and wish to counter his contentions ..is it ok with you if we do so?
Maybe bumpernut you might come up with a suggestion or too in order to improve rtes gaa coverage, (maybe a gaa cookery show involving eggs from factory hens!!! - just joking)
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 13:15:20
Listen im certainly not going to scroll through 60 odd pages to find who said what and where, ive been following this thread on and off and there are numerous childish posts in reply to mediaman throughout it
There are 4 or 5 of you who circle the wagons at the slightest mention of a rugby bias and that agenda is the reason you post continually as if somehow those who agree with this bias will embark on our road to Damascus!
As for contacting rte, I have sent emails and tweets to the BBC/UTV about the complete neglect of hurling coverage in the north, do I get a reply?
of course I don't and tbh I don't expect one. So, how do you know that mediaman hasn't been doing something similar with the same outcome?
Unfortunately its the war of the flea and until someone with sufficient power and interest picks up on these issues which in turn ignites mass interest then that particular war will continue for both of us!
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alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19 will ask here but moderators move to another thread if you feel its necessary
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs. At club level many gaa clubs have very good facilities but same can be said for rugby clubs/
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,
Promotion of games in Rugby is actually very good.
Ticket prices for kids are very good for 90% of big rugby games.
Kids tickets for the November games against Canada New Zealand Australia are €5, €15 and €10 respectively.
For Munster v Maori All Blacks kids tickets are €20 Cat A, €10 Cat B/C, €7 Tce. That is super value.
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Replying To janesboro: "
but you never accept or confront it?..why do you always try and deflect from legitimate points?...
do i dont deflect i merely give my counter opinion -
..generally speaking the coverage is overwhelmingly negative and a lot of evidence supports this
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:242 - 19/07/2016 14:11:54 1
and i believe generally speaking the coverage is overhwelmingly negative and a lot of evidence supports this
e.g. on radio - blanket coverage on championship saturdays and sundays on both radio one and radio na gaeltachta
2 or 3 championship games per week on RTE plus sunday game plus league sunday
ancilliary programmes pairc life, the geansai, thank gaa its friday, up for the match, the toughest trade, the marty squad, championship draws, all star awards , the championship radio programme- usually these are all positive bar some of the punditry (but hey soccer and rugby get negative punditry too)
whereas the negative examples seem to stem solely/primarily from six one news" no there is regular examples of negativity both on radio and on tv..especially on the sunday game, late late show, joe duffy show....look at how much negativity for a simple fight at a junior football match...you are quite clearly deflecting from the examples given which are perfectly legitimate points....why do you feel so strongly in defence of rugby then if you are not pro rugby?..if it was any other sport being slated here i highly doubt u would be going to such lengths to defend rte
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Replying To janesboro: "alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have" well a lot of people do see this bias quite strongly...there is a strong bias towards rugby in the media in general and i think that would be a consensus to a certain degree
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19 will ask here but moderators move to another thread if you feel its necessary
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs. At club level many gaa clubs have very good facilities but same can be said for rugby clubs/
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,
Promotion of games in Rugby is actually very good.
Ticket prices for kids are very good for 90% of big rugby games.
Kids tickets for the November games against Canada New Zealand Australia are €5, €15 and €10 respectively.
For Munster v Maori All Blacks kids tickets are €20 Cat A, €10 Cat B/C, €7 Tce. That is super value." Facepalm!!!
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19 will ask here but moderators move to another thread if you feel its necessary
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs. At club level many gaa clubs have very good facilities but same can be said for rugby clubs/
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,
Promotion of games in Rugby is actually very good.
Ticket prices for kids are very good for 90% of big rugby games.
Kids tickets for the November games against Canada New Zealand Australia are €5, €15 and €10 respectively.
For Munster v Maori All Blacks kids tickets are €20 Cat A, €10 Cat B/C, €7 Tce. That is super value." For 20 Euro I would want the kid to be taking part in the game. That's scandalous money for a kids ticket, especially as it's not even a competitive game. Where is a category A seat?
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19 will ask here but moderators move to another thread if you feel its necessary
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs. At club level many gaa clubs have very good facilities but same can be said for rugby clubs/
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,
Promotion of games in Rugby is actually very good.
Ticket prices for kids are very good for 90% of big rugby games.
Kids tickets for the November games against Canada New Zealand Australia are €5, €15 and €10 respectively.
For Munster v Maori All Blacks kids tickets are €20 Cat A, €10 Cat B/C, €7 Tce. That is super value." like look at this janesboro..he behaves like an officer for the irfu..he has no proper interest in gaa and is far more biased towards rugby and is only interested in defending and promoting it on here
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like look at this janesboro..he behaves like an officer for the irfu..he has no proper interest in gaa and is far more biased towards rugby and is only interested in defending and promoting it on here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:248 - 19/07/2016 17:58:26Quit getting so personal.
What is a proper interest in the GAA. How am I acting like an officer for the IRFU?
I don't just defend and promote rugby. I comment on a lot more than that
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Replying To gotmilk: " Replying To ormondbannerman: "alano -just to let you know a small bit of my background -just to show that i am pro gaa and rugby. i played club level hurling football and rugby (wasnt any good -but loved playing) i coach kids in all 3 sports now as well as soccer, love doing it great fun) go to lots of club gaa and rugby games and follow the county teams (tend to get to most matches in all grade- which in the last two weeks was a bit of a penance (inters,minors,21s seniors lost in hurling and seniors in football -was at them all, still sick, ,also follow young munster in ail home/away and munster in thomond/cork and once a year do an away trip. if i come accross people wrongly criticising gaa i pull them up on it. Rugby got plenty to learn from gaa as well e.g. facilities, promotion of games , pricing, even small stuff like letting kids have puck about on the pitch
so to be honest while i am a rugby fan and cheerleader im the same when it comes to hurling and football - i just really dont see this anti gaa bias rte is supposed to have
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:461 - 19/07/2016 14:52:19 will ask here but moderators move to another thread if you feel its necessary
Janesboro. How do you propose Rugby learn from GAA in terms of facilities. At top level by and large rugby stadiums are better than the GAAs. At club level many gaa clubs have very good facilities but same can be said for rugby clubs/
Letting kids on pitch just isn't feasible and that only is stopped at pro level games,
Promotion of games in Rugby is actually very good.
Ticket prices for kids are very good for 90% of big rugby games.
Kids tickets for the November games against Canada New Zealand Australia are €5, €15 and €10 respectively.
For Munster v Maori All Blacks kids tickets are €20 Cat A, €10 Cat B/C, €7 Tce. That is super value." For 20 Euro I would want the kid to be taking part in the game. That's scandalous money for a kids ticket, especially as it's not even a competitive game. Where is a category A seat?"
Maoris have never played in Ireland before and are one of the most historic/strongest teams in the world.
€20 is very good value to see such a game
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Tuesday. Another RTE 6.01 News and Sport. Another negative football story (Diarmuid Connolly). At least they're consistent. Did you notice that even when referring to James McCarthy's injury they didn't show one of his hallmark runs or scores? No. Instead they showed him being booked. You could laugh if it wasn't so serious.
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "like look at this janesboro..he behaves like an officer for the irfu..he has no proper interest in gaa and is far more biased towards rugby and is only interested in defending and promoting it on here
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:248 - 19/07/2016 17:58:26Quit getting so personal.
What is a proper interest in the GAA. How am I acting like an officer for the IRFU?
I don't just defend and promote rugby. I comment on a lot more than that" you behave like a self appointed rugby police on here...acting superior to others asking them to be more 'progressive' how you see it...you are advertising ticket prices and talk about almost everything from a rugby point of view yet this is a gaa site
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