04/09/2015 10:24:33 yew_tree
GAA is the biggest sporting event on this weekend without a doubt (from an Irish perspective). RTE have always built up rugby....see who is head of sport there. The head of sport doesn't decide every single thing about sport. He doesn't have that much control. paranoid much?
04/09/2015 10:21:10 ormondbannerman
Rugby World Cup is about to begin. Ireland have genuine shot at doing well. Coverage will be high on the agenda about the world cup
04/09/2015 10:28:06 jason
Ormondbannerman - are you for real?
Ireland could be playing in the RWC quarter final this weekend and the GAA should still be topping the agenda. 160,000 will be in Croker this weekend - Ireland played Wales last weekend and there were tickets for sale the morning of the game!
And for all the talk of how cynical the football last week was and how bad a year it's been in general, it's always been better than the rubbish that was on last week. There is no justification for having rugby ahead of the GAA in sports coverage this week.
And this is from someone going to all of Ireland's games plus two QF in the RWC this year! A world cup quarter final is as big for RTE as an all Ireland final. RTE care about viewers/advertising and the rugby internationals bring in both in big numbers.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/09/2015 12:55:11    1782027

Could be worse. TV3 highlight the Rugby WC no matter what they are discussing. "Chaos as thousands of immigrants attempt to flee to UK...which is hosting the Rugby world cup where all games will be exclusively live on TV3, the countdown begins"

poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 04/09/2015 12:59:41    1782036

i want to totally agree with thomas clarke a tv station dedicated to all gaa would be a winner funded by the massive takings at croke park we would get to see live league games, panel discussions etc a great idea

mickcunningham (Westmeath) - Posts: 1799 - 04/09/2015 13:10:07    1782051

Not to mention the daily updates all week from Tony O'Donoghoe in Portugal on the "big" soccer match tonight - Rep. of Ireland V "the worst team in Europe" in a competition we are essentially out of.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 04/09/2015 13:29:17    1782085

Does the GAA deserve any better the way they conduct their business?
They don't seem to have any grand plan re publicity or marketing.
Have they even thought about it?

But but but if they wish to remain an amateur organisation it would be difficult to resolve all the conflicting issues arising from a more successful and profitable organisation.
As we are now we are on the slippery slope to professionalism and there is no honest debate or attempt to regulate this creep towards the pro game.

BIG SACKS (Tyrone) - Posts: 1681 - 04/09/2015 13:36:48    1782093

Hill16 it was not the biggest sporting event in the world , just because it had the biggest crowd does not signify that it is the biggest in the world , outside of Ireland there is little or no interest in the GAA and seeing as the viewing figures for sky have been so bad there is not much chance of the game spreading . The idea of a dedicated channel is far fetched as again not enough interest outside of ireland to make it viable or for that matter not enough interest in ireland

tinrylandman (Carlow) - Posts: 387 - 04/09/2015 13:39:43    1782097

04/09/2015 10:34:40 rcarragh
Rugby World Cup is about to begin. Ireland have genuine shot at doing well. Coverage will be high on the agenda about the world cup.
Yes the world cup hasn't begun yet, no need for balnket coverage. The GAA season is coming to its climax - there'll be plenty of time to watch/discuss ireland's usual dismal exit when the rugger begins - but now is the time for massive GAA coverage, apparently not for RTE though. Shameful. The world cup starts in a week. Of course there will be lots of coverage. The team is playing its 4th game In 5 weeks. All have been building up for the main event. Coverage will get bigger closer the world cup appears...
I feel sad for someone who wants their own country to fail. Have you no pride in your country?
04/09/2015 10:47:27
witnof
Ormond I put it to you clearly Ireland have not a chance of winning. We will be doing well to go beyond the Q-Final.
If we are lucky we meet Argentina in Q-Final and we know our history with the Argies
Worse case we meet the All-Blacks and our history is even worse there.
RTE are losing rugby to SKY, been left with the also run League that is Pro12 (if it was any good or important it would be on Sky) and within 10 years the 6 Nations will follow. Sky offer too much money for this not to happen.
If I were RTE I would be taking a different approach to Gaelic Games as it is in there long term interest.
But I honestly think RTE are incapable of developing anything our record against argentina since the 2007 world cup is Ireland 5 wins argentina o wins. Very few players in both squads played in 2007 and none in 99. That history is irrevelent.
Pro12 isn't an also ran league. totally ignorant and foolish to say that. The pro12 is on Sky. Sky pick and choose which games they want to show.
6 Nations wont change from RTE

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 04/09/2015 13:54:59    1782109

I don't know the answer to a lot of this. GAA is not a majority sport in "Middle Ireland". And middle Ireland decides what sports to watch. I see the future for the GAA in a tie up with the Irish language.
GAA club's to be Gaelic hubs- with football hurling camogie. And also Irish language and music and Irish dancing.
Regarding RTE sports, The Sunday game needs an overhaul. Series like Celebrity Banisteoir needs to be followed up. Finally people should vote for pro GAA parties in the upcoming General Election.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 04/09/2015 14:05:41    1782126

The media are pushing the Electric Picnic. Well the GAA could push the recent "Fleadh" in the same way. TG4 had Fleadh tv running. It is like RTE has become Electric Picnic TV really.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2517 - 04/09/2015 14:10:57    1782129

Just one point on Pro12, and I know my rugby and live in the South West of France, so a rugby hot bed.

No interest at all in Pro12 in France, ask rugby people here what it is and they have no clue. This is not the same with the English premiership. Top 14 is shown in SA and NZ etc but not Pro12. It would fall apart tomorrow if the Irish, Welsh and Scottish unions didn't pump money from the International matches into the central contracts to keep the top players.

Sky will take everything eventually in Rugby, this creep you are seeing already. Pro Sport is a business and businesses follow the money.

Hence this is why I do not understand RTEs lack of willingness to promote GAA as it will be the only regular weekend live sport they will be left with, unless for AIL or the FAI Premier League.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 04/09/2015 14:25:55    1782143

Media man -Never has RTE's rugby bias been more obvious.
Answer- yeah thats why RTE TV are showing two live games - plus up for the match -plus sunday game plus thank gaa its friday- compared to highlights of the england game --real anti gaa bias shown here eh!!

Yew tree - GAA is the biggest sporting event on this weekend without a doubt (from an Irish perspective
Couldnt agree more - the football seems to be getting more coverage than the hurling final though

Witnf --- Pro12 (if it was any good or important it would be on Sky)
Ans - well it is good and important hence sky are showing it

thelongridge
The games will attract huge interest among ordinary people, not the rugby favouring clique in RTE.
Ans - im sure there are plenty of rugby followers who will be glued to either or both gaa games. Heaven forbid there may possibly even be some gaa fans who will watch the rugby

and I have to endure Ireland's Call, all to pleaseone or two Ulster players!
Ans - given that god save the queen is the anthem of northern ireland i think its unfair to expect the northern ireland based players to adopt amhran na bhfian as their anthem - i mean you would expect Irish players to stand for god save the queen when playing for the Lions

At least the GAA will play Amhan Na Fhiann. I know what I will be watching
Ans - at least at a rugby match when its played the anthem is given proper respect.


green and red
Welcome back Mediaman, just in time for the GAA inter-county season to finish and the rugby world cup to start. So plenty of RTE News has 20 seconds of GAA coverage, 2 whole minutes of Premier League and that rugby got a full 2 minutes and 41 seconds.RTE are showing the games and they're getting plenty of media coverage already. RTE not showing any World Cup games, no doubt you'll whinge when they give it news coverage.

Why were you not here all summer when RTE had live games, Sunday Game, live radio, etc ? No rugby or soccer then perhaps.

Have you ever contributed anything on this website about sport rather than complaining about RTE and never having a proactive idea?

GREEN AND RED THIS IS THE BEST POST ON THIS THREAD THOUGH GALWAYFORD COMES A CLOSE SECOND-(FOR YOU AND FOR OLD TIMES SAKE IM EVEN STATING THIS IN CAPITALS. Heaven forbid media man will actually respond to you

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/09/2015 14:27:51    1782145

Sky or BT witnof. Sky are being cleaned out by BT.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 04/09/2015 14:33:03    1782149

Firstly can I just say that RTÉ News/Sports News or any News for that matter, should not be a platform to promote anything. News bulletins exist to report news and that's all they should do.

Before everyone gets hysterical lets just look at a few of these facts

On Monday the 1st item was Rugby Union. Soccer was 2nd. GAA was 5th- does the running order really matter that much? Even though Rugby was up first the GAA report was actually longer than the Rugby one

On Tuesday the 1st item was Rugby Union. Soccer was 2nd. GAA not covered at all. Was there any GAA news on Tuesday that should have been reported?

On Wednesday the 1st item was Rugby Union. Soccer was 2nd.GAA was 6th and last. FYI, you're wrong here. Soccer was the first item on the sports news. Again though, the GAA report was longer than either the Soccer or the Rugby. And there wasn't actually any GAA news to report, it was 100% a promo for the hurling final this weekend and was actually unnecessary in a news report.

On Thursday the 1st item was Rugby Union. Soccer was 2nd. GAA was 3rd and last. There were 2 GAA reports, one was about Diarmuid Connolly's ban being upheld and the other was again not news but was the second part of the hurling finals promo.

All week Game On 2fm have talked GAA, both yesterday and today Morning Ireland have had broadcasts about the hurling final, Thank GAA it's Friday is on tonight, Up for the Match is on tomorrow night, there are live matches Saturday and Sunday on TV and Radio as well as highlights Sunday night

Personally I would hate to be a TV Licence payer with no interest in GAA, I'd imagine I'd be fairly sick of it at this stage

turkeyplucker (UK) - Posts: 137 - 04/09/2015 14:38:35    1782153

How would you define 'The biggest sporting event in the world last weekend' if you don't think the event with the biggest attendance is the biggest event? There was demand for 120,000 + tickets.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 04/09/2015 14:38:48    1782154

Greengrass the Sky v BT battle will be an interesting one and will shake up professional sports. BT have gone hard after rugby but SKY still dominate the international landscape, and also why they want some Pro12 matches and battle over Top14. The battle will have a bigger impact on sports than most think.

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 04/09/2015 15:11:59    1782184

While pretending to be a national channel, and gladly fleecing the whole country for licence money, rte has always been a closed club for snobby oiks, they hate the plain people of Ireland and what they represent

flack (Dublin) - Posts: 1054 - 04/09/2015 18:57:20    1782353

It certainly will witnof. BT have The Champions League which is a huge blow to Sky. Sky have less to fill their schedules. I would imagine the football and hurling are most welcome at tis stage.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 04/09/2015 19:17:14    1782363

The GAA (along with RTE) decided this year that they wanted to show Dublin v Longford in a 3/4 empty stadium where the former strolled around the field and won at their dead ease. So successful, they run the same event a few weeks later (replace Longford with Kildare) with similar results and then repeat twice again ...

I understand why they did as obviously Dublin is the most lucrative unit in the association..however, the GAA needs to change its product..Dublin/Mayo/Tyrone/Donegal/Kerry etc should be playing each other every week in massive big matches with Sam being handed out to the team that wins the most..ie the league..

Let's be honest, the GAA championships only started the day that Mayo played Donegal- there have been two other games since and it will all be over in a few weeks time by which time the RWC will have started..not a fantastic product either but one that is much better marketed..

Our annoyance should be directed at the GAA and their marketing and not RTE in my opinon

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 04/09/2015 19:42:56    1782378

I like the idea of a dedicated tv channel but considering that there is only big interest in 4 or 5 games a year it's hard to see the practicality of it.

There is virtually no interest in GAA outside of Irish people & looking at the attendances at league games & many championship games there isn't huge interest in Ireland either.

Yes there is demand for marquee games but many attending those games have little real interest in the GAA & would never be seen at a game in winter.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 04/09/2015 19:52:13    1782382

It shows the lack of PR and marketing within the GAA due to their old school type management. Fresh blood is needed at head office to drive the new agenda that is required.

Redslayer (Westmeath) - Posts: 100 - 04/09/2015 19:52:41    1782383