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My god just looking at this thread for the first time in months and it looks like it is stuck on repeat play. It is a long long time since many of us have been saying Casement is the only show in town and surely recent developments further emphasise this. As such there really is no debate to be had unless it is around the best place to grab a pint before the games or recommended accommodation for those who wish to enjoy the rest of the city around a match.
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Replying To Naysayer: "My god just looking at this thread for the first time in months and it looks like it is stuck on repeat play. It is a long long time since many of us have been saying Casement is the only show in town and surely recent developments further emphasise this. As such there really is no debate to be had unless it is around the best place to grab a pint before the games or recommended accommodation for those who wish to enjoy the rest of the city around a match." Yeah well sadly Gary feels like he needs to dominate the discussion by continually posting his facts manifesto every day.
Anyhow I'm up for crossing the trenches as it really is boring everyone, myself included, going round and round in circles.
I would much prefer to discuss good spots for a pint/bite to eat or even how/who will be using the new stadium.
I must say im delighted to see they have agreed to build handball courts now as I don't believe that was in the initial plans.
I think back to my youth of playing handball against the gable wall of La Salle school and that sadly is a sight long gone now for varying reasons.
Its definitely a hidden gem of the GAA, also very useful for hurlers as most know and no coincidence that Kilkenny aren't bad at it.
It would be good to see it used for a schools league , I stand to be corrected here but I don't think there is one currently.
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Replying To SaffronDon: " Replying To GaryMc82: "Replying To GaryMc82: "yeah, the rest of Ireland by en large don't seem to give a toss about your 'awareness' campaign
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1029 - 16/11/2016 22:23:50
Don't know about that, It seems you Antrim posters are the only ones passionate about it going ahead these days. Yourself, Offside and bumpernut are the only ones blindly shouting in favour of it, and well bumpernut bloody works on the project, making his motives even more suspicious and questionable. Now I hope you noticed I just said Antrim posters, rather than Antrim people, as I hear quite a few around Casement aren't in favour of it either."
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yeah, quite a few being around 10%. But you've never let the facts get in the way of a good rant, so preach on reverend.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1031 - 16/11/2016 23:27:44 193
Again, after I posted the message you quoted, yourself, Offside and Casement Design team member Bumperbut all reply. All 3 from Antrim, all with selfish reasons for this clearly unsuitable venue going ahead.
The fact you ruthlessly question the Casement Park residents opposed to this proposal, shows yourself and Offside (Like Bumpernut) probably have a vested Interest in this project going ahead. Despite the numerous clear reasons why Casement Park is not anywhere near suitable as Provincial Stadium, you 3 are blindly backing this." just so you know i have nothing to do with the project nor do i live around the stadium. but i do know several of the residents, all of whom support the project for logical reasons. you seem so obsessed with this topic that the same claims could be aimed at you having vested interest in it NOT going ahead and instead somewhere closer to home for you."
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Up to 40 pages now. Time to just agree to differ.
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Replying To himachechy: "Up to 40 pages now. Time to just agree to differ." Where's the craic in that?
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Replying To Offside_Rule: "Where's the craic in that?" This craic cow has been well milked at this stage.
himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 18/11/2016 16:44:08
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Replying To himachechy: "This craic cow has been well milked at this stage." Think it has just gone out to graze.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 18/11/2016 17:52:08
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Replying To bulmccabe: " Replying To SaffronDon: "[quote=GaryMc82: "Replying To GaryMc82: "yeah, the rest of Ireland by en large don't seem to give a toss about your 'awareness' campaign
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1029 - 16/11/2016 22:23:50
Don't know about that, It seems you Antrim posters are the only ones passionate about it going ahead these days. Yourself, Offside and bumpernut are the only ones blindly shouting in favour of it, and well bumpernut bloody works on the project, making his motives even more suspicious and questionable. Now I hope you noticed I just said Antrim posters, rather than Antrim people, as I hear quite a few around Casement aren't in favour of it either."
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yeah, quite a few being around 10%. But you've never let the facts get in the way of a good rant, so preach on reverend.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1031 - 16/11/2016 23:27:44 193
Again, after I posted the message you quoted, yourself, Offside and Casement Design team member Bumperbut all reply. All 3 from Antrim, all with selfish reasons for this clearly unsuitable venue going ahead.
The fact you ruthlessly question the Casement Park residents opposed to this proposal, shows yourself and Offside (Like Bumpernut) probably have a vested Interest in this project going ahead. Despite the numerous clear reasons why Casement Park is not anywhere near suitable as Provincial Stadium, you 3 are blindly backing this." just so you know i have nothing to do with the project nor do i live around the stadium. but i do know several of the residents, all of whom support the project for logical reasons. you seem so obsessed with this topic that the same claims could be aimed at you having vested interest in it NOT going ahead and instead somewhere closer to home for you."
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/11/2016 21:35:13
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you're the lad who thought i was a shinner when i have zero interest in politics and you want people to believe that you know several residents and your from Tyrone? aye dead on mate. ask yourself,
Well its clear the only reason Casement was ever proposed, was because of serious political interference. Why else would such an unsuitable location be proposed as a Provincial Stadium, when it offers no Improvements on Clones.
why would you move next to a stadium, then get outraged when they redevelop it?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1033 - 18/11/2016 21:35:13
For the same reason you could buy a house, and later be outraged when it emerged that your neighbor is building a massive extension that will block most sunlight from you own property. Planning control normally considers such things before granting planning permission, and local residents have the right to raise concerns regarding anything that can impact the value of their home or the living conditions surrounding their home.
GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 19/11/2016 13:29:41
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My god just looking at this thread for the first time in months and it looks like it is stuck on repeat play. It is a long long time since many of us have been saying Casement is the only show in town and surely recent developments further emphasise this. As such there really is no debate to be had unless it is around the best place to grab a pint before the games or recommended accommodation for those who wish to enjoy the rest of the city around a match.
Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts:2022 - 18/11/2016 11:12:02
Casement isn't the only show in town, although it has been billed as "The only show in town" by certain people who also happen to feel uncomfortable with this topic being raised.
Most Antrim people want Casement developed, so they can use it as their home ground.
Sinn Fein people want Casement developed, so they can claim they built it and point to it as a symbol of what they did for West Belfast.
British Government want Casement developed, so Belfast/Northern Ireland will be able to host one of the larger Rugby World Cup games.
This project has not been given the green light, no matter how much all of the above want that to be the case, so there is still room for debate.
From a non-biased GAA perspective, It offers no solution to the majority of issues Clones presented us with, many of which I have repeatedly listed on here. Just because a seriously flawed and corrupt project has parochial and political support, doesn't make it ok.
Antrim posters have made a joke of themselves on this thread, consistently failing to offer a serious argument in favor of Casement, to contest valid and serious points raised by myself. Instead they have been reduced to making jibes and attempting to poke fun at me (Just read the majority of posts by Bumpernut, SaffronDon).
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Replying To GaryMc82: " My god just looking at this thread for the first time in months and it looks like it is stuck on repeat play. It is a long long time since many of us have been saying Casement is the only show in town and surely recent developments further emphasise this. As such there really is no debate to be had unless it is around the best place to grab a pint before the games or recommended accommodation for those who wish to enjoy the rest of the city around a match.
Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts:2022 - 18/11/2016 11:12:02
Casement isn't the only show in town, although it has been billed as "The only show in town" by certain people who also happen to feel uncomfortable with this topic being raised.
Most Antrim people want Casement developed, so they can use it as their home ground.
Sinn Fein people want Casement developed, so they can claim they built it and point to it as a symbol of what they did for West Belfast.
British Government want Casement developed, so Belfast/Northern Ireland will be able to host one of the larger Rugby World Cup games.
This project has not been given the green light, no matter how much all of the above want that to be the case, so there is still room for debate.
From a non-biased GAA perspective, It offers no solution to the majority of issues Clones presented us with, many of which I have repeatedly listed on here. Just because a seriously flawed and corrupt project has parochial and political support, doesn't make it ok.
Antrim posters have made a joke of themselves on this thread, consistently failing to offer a serious argument in favor of Casement, to contest valid and serious points raised by myself. Instead they have been reduced to making jibes and attempting to poke fun at me (Just read the majority of posts by Bumpernut, SaffronDon)." Still waiting on that post where I said I worked on the design team...........
bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 20/11/2016 00:54:13
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Replying To GaryMc82: "you're the lad who thought i was a shinner when i have zero interest in politics and you want people to believe that you know several residents and your from Tyrone? aye dead on mate. ask yourself,
Well its clear the only reason Casement was ever proposed, was because of serious political interference. Why else would such an unsuitable location be proposed as a Provincial Stadium, when it offers no Improvements on Clones.
why would you move next to a stadium, then get outraged when they redevelop it?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1033 - 18/11/2016 21:35:13
For the same reason you could buy a house, and later be outraged when it emerged that your neighbor is building a massive extension that will block most sunlight from you own property. Planning control normally considers such things before granting planning permission, and local residents have the right to raise concerns regarding anything that can impact the value of their home or the living conditions surrounding their home." Aye right mate, what about ye mucker, typical Belfast response. Just because I;m from Tyrone which is a big place believe it or not doesn't mean I don't know any residents { bit touchy about it are you } maybe they are relatives? also possible I know them through my involvement with teams playing in antrim leagues due to lack of games in tyrone. That argument of yours doesn't weigh up.
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 20/11/2016 02:31:10
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Were Antrim GAA consulted when planning permission was given to put houses around the stadium which was then on the outskirts of Belfast surrounded by green fields? Course they weren't. So anyone who bought beside the stadium would have known those are the risks you take buying in such a location so don't come crying after. It's like the city or town folk who move out in to the country then start complaining about the farmer spreading slurry in the field beside their house - the field which has been farmed for generations and long before any house was built. No, those objecting are nothing more than opportunists in my opinion.
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 20/11/2016 10:50:07
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Replying To bulmccabe: "Aye right mate, what about ye mucker, typical Belfast response. Just because I;m from Tyrone which is a big place believe it or not doesn't mean I don't know any residents { bit touchy about it are you } maybe they are relatives? also possible I know them through my involvement with teams playing in antrim leagues due to lack of games in tyrone. That argument of yours doesn't weigh up." very mature with your Belfast stereotypes aren't you. If your talking about the opposition residents, who are very much a minority now, there are very few if any that are involved with the GAA, so its hard to imagine you know someone that way. The GAA people who live in Owenvarragh/Mooreland are all for the stadium. your story is becoming less and less credible as we go here.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 20/11/2016 13:24:18
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Replying To GaryMc82: "you're the lad who thought i was a shinner when i have zero interest in politics and you want people to believe that you know several residents and your from Tyrone? aye dead on mate. ask yourself,
Well its clear the only reason Casement was ever proposed, was because of serious political interference. Why else would such an unsuitable location be proposed as a Provincial Stadium, when it offers no Improvements on Clones.
why would you move next to a stadium, then get outraged when they redevelop it?
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts:1033 - 18/11/2016 21:35:13
For the same reason you could buy a house, and later be outraged when it emerged that your neighbor is building a massive extension that will block most sunlight from you own property. Planning control normally considers such things before granting planning permission, and local residents have the right to raise concerns regarding anything that can impact the value of their home or the living conditions surrounding their home." aye you know Casement/Clones....that whole connection there.
you might want to do a history check of the surrounding area of Casement also, chief prosecutor.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 20/11/2016 18:30:10
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This forum has been going on for a while but for the umpteenth time Stormont are not going to give money to the GAA to do up Clones which we all know is in the Republic so lets stop mentioning effing Clones.
Next the Redeveloped Pairc Ui chaoimh is not a bargain compared to Casement . Firstly it is costing 80 million not 60 something million ie virtually the same as Casement however 25000 of the capacity is on steps with NO ROOF, in fact 3/4 of the new stadium will look virtually the same as the stadium that has just been knocked down so all in all a massive cluster f#ck. Get Casement build tired of a FEW nimby residents stalling this project. I personally would have moved it to the North foreshore or Titanic quarter years ago and sold casement for housing or a supermarket and then those residents might realise that an inconvenience maybe twice a year is nothing compared to extra noise and traffic any alternative will bring 24/7.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39119874
I see that this week that planning permission was finally submitted for Casement. Not much talk about it with the election this week. Anybody have an idea of what the turn around time is for the council to make a decision on the application?
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Replying To Antifa: "http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-39119874
I see that this week that planning permission was finally submitted for Casement. Not much talk about it with the election this week. Anybody have an idea of what the turn around time is for the council to make a decision on the application?" DFI (Dept for Infrastructure) are making the call from what I read yesterday in the Irish News.
They also said Belfast Council permission could take something like a year to process.
I cant remember if it said end of 2018 or 2019 to have it built
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I hope you aren't one of Gary's many aliases!! :)
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Replying To bumpernut: "I hope you aren't one of Gary's many aliases!! :)" You'll do well to remember the film Beetlejuice at this point bumper....
Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 03/03/2017 11:21:48
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