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So finally a name put on this second tier championship


John Horan said "In addition to having its own all-star selection, it is our intention to have the semi-finals and the final of the Tailteann Cup shown live on RTÉ television from Croke Park"

So basically there will be only 3 games shown on TV of this wonderful new competition for which marketing and promotion is key?????

The sigerson cup has 3 televised games(great competition in itself) but inter county players train all year and thats the potential exposure they will get!!

Surely the GAA could make it a condition for Sky to televise a number of the tier 2 games as part of the substantial deal to show the "Super 8s"...... even better a free vie on Sky.......if thats all the coverage the Tailteann Cup will get the airporsts will be very busy in few months!!

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1097 - 29/02/2020 15:56:14    2270867

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Unfortunately that is the problem with pay for view, surely TG4 will show some games? They are the most consistent and reliable of GAA broadcasters, no point relying on the likes of Sky? I can't see it.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 29/02/2020 16:18:10    2270873

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Is this the same way RTE was supposed to show the christy ring cup live? Until that too became an afterthought.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1898 - 29/02/2020 16:49:28    2270882

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Replying To macca999:  "So finally a name put on this second tier championship


John Horan said "In addition to having its own all-star selection, it is our intention to have the semi-finals and the final of the Tailteann Cup shown live on RTÉ television from Croke Park"

So basically there will be only 3 games shown on TV of this wonderful new competition for which marketing and promotion is key?????

The sigerson cup has 3 televised games(great competition in itself) but inter county players train all year and thats the potential exposure they will get!!

Surely the GAA could make it a condition for Sky to televise a number of the tier 2 games as part of the substantial deal to show the "Super 8s"...... even better a free vie on Sky.......if thats all the coverage the Tailteann Cup will get the airporsts will be very busy in few months!!"
The Cup to be presented at New Grange on one of its special days.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 29/02/2020 17:05:12    2270885

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Replying To macca999:  "So finally a name put on this second tier championship


John Horan said "In addition to having its own all-star selection, it is our intention to have the semi-finals and the final of the Tailteann Cup shown live on RTÉ television from Croke Park"

So basically there will be only 3 games shown on TV of this wonderful new competition for which marketing and promotion is key?????

The sigerson cup has 3 televised games(great competition in itself) but inter county players train all year and thats the potential exposure they will get!!

Surely the GAA could make it a condition for Sky to televise a number of the tier 2 games as part of the substantial deal to show the "Super 8s"...... even better a free vie on Sky.......if thats all the coverage the Tailteann Cup will get the airporsts will be very busy in few months!!"
To be fair, why would sky show it if the national broadcasters won't? RTE and TG4 should be the first port of call here. We see more games across combined networks now sky show them than we did before so I don't get the negative view here about sky sports showing games.
I think these games should be shown by national broadcasters. If they can find time for average second tier club rugby, surely 2nd tier county football should get an airing, as the comparative standard would be a lot higher.

BaldyBadger (Cork) - Posts: 311 - 29/02/2020 17:30:17    2270893

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Maybe TG4 should set up a second channel dedicated to Gaelic games and maybe other sports. I'm serious!

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1029 - 29/02/2020 18:38:23    2270902

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Replying To macca999:  "So finally a name put on this second tier championship


John Horan said "In addition to having its own all-star selection, it is our intention to have the semi-finals and the final of the Tailteann Cup shown live on RTÉ television from Croke Park"

So basically there will be only 3 games shown on TV of this wonderful new competition for which marketing and promotion is key?????

The sigerson cup has 3 televised games(great competition in itself) but inter county players train all year and thats the potential exposure they will get!!

Surely the GAA could make it a condition for Sky to televise a number of the tier 2 games as part of the substantial deal to show the "Super 8s"...... even better a free vie on Sky.......if thats all the coverage the Tailteann Cup will get the airporsts will be very busy in few months!!"
There are to be only 4 rounds in the competition, 2 of them will be on TV. Looking at the teams who will be in it, there are 7 or 8 who I'd be fairly confident in saying have never had a qualifier game shown live on TV. If I remember correctly there was no game at all from the 1st round of qualifiers on TV last year because provincial championship games and hurling were on TV as well. With the condensed championship there are limited TV slots available, at least with this competition a footballer from Leitrim, Wicklow or Louth has some chance of appearing on live TV.
I'm surprised that for a Congress with so many changes there hasn't been more interest in it on here, for the main part the changes seem to be for the better of the games.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 29/02/2020 18:45:50    2270904

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Replying To Bon:  "Is this the same way RTE was supposed to show the christy ring cup live? Until that too became an afterthought."
Pretty sure RTE never bothered with the Ring semi finals, whenever there was a year where they showed the Final

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 29/02/2020 19:00:47    2270907

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Maybe TG4 should set up a second channel dedicated to Gaelic games and maybe other sports. I'm serious!"
Lack of budget and resources to do this (especially when you look at the richer RTE decimating it's sport coverage in the last 10 years)

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 29/02/2020 19:38:20    2270913

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Replying To neverright:  "The Cup to be presented at New Grange on one of its special days."
When the sun is actually visible on the shortest day

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 29/02/2020 19:48:46    2270916

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What is it named after or what does it mean?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 2739 - 29/02/2020 21:28:16    2270955

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "What is it named after or what does it mean?"
educate yourself man.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 29/02/2020 23:45:57    2271001

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "What is it named after or what does it mean?"
The tailteann games, look it up. Hence pairs tailteann in navan.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/03/2020 07:19:03    2271017

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This is not going to work.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 01/03/2020 09:00:39    2271026

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"but inter county players train all year and thats the potential exposure they will get!!"

Yes because the likes of Wicklow, Waterford etc have been getting wall to wall coverage up to now

oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1380 - 01/03/2020 09:16:11    2271029

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The Tailteann games were founded, according to the Book of Invasions, by Lugh Lámhfhada, (master craftsman or doctor of the sciences), as a mourning ceremony for the death of his foster-mother Tailtiu.

Lugh buried Tailtiu underneath a mound in an area that took her name and was later called Tailteann (Teltown) in County Meath.[4] A significant historical site in the area was destroyed by a local resident whilst extending her garden in 1997.

The event was held during the last fortnight of July and culminated with the celebration of Lughnasadh, or Lammas Eve (1 August).[5]

Modern folklore claims that the Tailteann Games started around 1600 BC, with some sources claiming as far back as 1829 BC.[6][7][8][9][10][11][12] The games were held until 1169-1171 AD when they died out after the Norman invasion.[14][15]....... GAA Congress of 1172 verified the change

The ancient Aonach (Fair) had three functions: honoring the dead, proclaiming laws, and funeral games and festivities to entertain.
The dead would then be burnt on a funeral pyre.

The second function would then be carried out during a universal truce by the Ollamh Érenn, (Central Council) giving out laws to the people via bards and druids and culminating in the igniting of another massive fire.
(All the above is Now called Congress)

Games included the long jump, high jump, running, hurling, spear throwing, boxing, contests in swordfighting, archery, wrestling, swimming, and chariot and horse racing. (All witnessed in Omagh on the night of the Leap year 2019, just after Congress ended)

They also included competitions in strategy, singing, dancing and story-telling, along with crafts competitions ( sometimes in GAA the word craft is substituted by the word Crafty) for goldsmiths, jewellers, weavers and armourers. (Now needed after Omagh on the night of the Leap Year)

Along with ensuring a meritocracy, the games would also feature a mass arranged marriage, where couples met for the first time and were given up to a year and a day to divorce on the hills of separation.[1] .... (Very much back in tradition these days)

From the late nineteenth century, the Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) and others in the Gaelic revival contemplated reviving the Tailteann Games. (the change took a while ......bit like the lip service to the Club Players

The Second Dáil approved a scheme in 1922, and after a delay caused by the Irish Civil War the first was held in 1924

Open to foreigners of Irish heritage, the first games of 1924 and 1928 attracted some competitors fresh from the Olympics in Paris and Amsterdam. The Games' main backer, minister J. J. Walsh, lost office when Fianna Fáil took power after the 1932 election, and public funding was cut........

Almost a 100 years later lots of similarities

noelpconnon (Cavan) - Posts: 209 - 01/03/2020 09:16:27    2271031

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"It is our intention to have the semi finals & final of the Tailteann Cup shown live on RTE from Croke Park"
Everybody will be hanging on this statement, why the use of the word "intention".
So let's see will :
1/ Three games be show live as stated.
2/ Three games be played in Croke Park as stated.
3/ Will it be RTE showing the games.
Ironic that previous incarnations had similar promises made & not lived up to, let's see will this statement live up to its promise.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 01/03/2020 11:31:27    2271074

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Nice name, at least it's not called after someone

DuhallowRed (Cork) - Posts: 267 - 01/03/2020 13:23:59    2271110

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Based on the results in Division 2 and 3 some big names could be in this.

I do think the league to championship relationship should be scraped though. Winner should be promoted and bottom of the all Ireland relegated. 4 groups of 4 and quarters like just about every county in the country runs their championship.

skirge7 (UK) - Posts: 247 - 01/03/2020 15:19:55    2271140

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I don't think the tv coverage is particularly bad or really a big deal breaker on this competition succeeding or not.

It'll succeed if there's bye in from players and managers from the competing teams. Who knows if it will or not, I hope it does prove to be a success or at least pave the way to a better competition further down the line.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4208 - 01/03/2020 15:46:42    2271149

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