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the Tyrone club championship is based of the teams league position conman1282 (Tyrone) - Posts: 88 - 06/11/2019 17:02:12 2248150 Link 0 |
League and Championship are tied together in Monaghan aswell. You get relegated from the Senior League, and you play Intermediate League and Championship the following year, and so on. An example is Magheracloone who got relegated from Senior last year after a long stint in the top flight, but they bounced back to win the intermediate championship this year and are currently in the Ulster club intermediate semis. Despite relegation I thought they were still above Intermediate level and they've proved that since. patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 06/11/2019 17:45:12 2248157 Link 1 |
I'd agree with that. In Antrim teams I think can choose. The intermediate champion has to play senior but won't necessarily be division 1 league if they weren't promoted. Mostly division 1 teams play senior championship but I don't think teams have to. Outside of Ulster I think league and championship are much more separate. Meath they're changing the championship and league system but they have the 2 completely separate. A division 2 team could be senior and a division 1 intermediate. It was the case that second teams could play up to Intermediate championship. There was a separate league structure for 2nd teams. B league where an intermediate team would play in B league division 1 at their highest level. They have changed it now and merged A league division 4 with B league division 1 to create a division 4 and 5 with their being B league below that. It's a bit of a mad system. So different to what I was used to in Antrim. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 06/11/2019 18:40:51 2248166 Link 4 |
It's a well know fact that teams are playing a hunchback (Antrim) - Posts: 56 - 06/11/2019 18:57:07 2248168 Link 0 |
Can you be promoted through both the league and championship in Tyrone, and relegated through them both? It used to be like that in many counties, but then clubs refused to play any games without their county players as it could cost them their senior status. For that reason many counties changed the rules so that league and championship was completely seperate, allowing clubs to play league games throughout the summer.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 06/11/2019 18:59:22 2248169 Link 0 |
Cork is being revamped. We have one club St Nicks who are senior in championship because they won it in the 1960s and they just believe themselves to be senior. There was no relegation from senior championship over the last few years so they managed to stay in there. In the league, they are bottom of all county division 5 league. You can't go lower in the leagues really. There are lower leagues at Junior level but are organised regionally. Next year, we are reforming. Long, long overdue. bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 06/11/2019 20:12:54 2248176 Link 0 |
The Roscommon division 1 league has been won by the team relegated in the championship. So league champions will be playing intermediate next year. catchturnscore (Longford) - Posts: 149 - 06/11/2019 20:37:41 2248182 Link 0 |
That almost happened a few years ago in Monaghan - if the team that wins the senior championship finishes in the relegation zone, then they still stay up in the senior championship & league - championship supersedes league. Another aspect regarding intermediate & junior - the teams that are promoted are the championship winners and league winners, so both are rewarded. The two relegated from Senior and intermediate are the bottom 2 of each league (unless they won that championship as I said above). patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 06/11/2019 21:07:40 2248184 Link 0 |
Of what I know I think that's as good of a system as in the country. Starred league games are weighted higher in Monaghan too I heard. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4172 - 06/11/2019 21:33:40 2248190 Link 4 |
Leitrim had a linked league and championship till sometime in the 00s I think, then they split them up, so that a Div 1 team could be playing in the intermediate championship and a Div 2 team could be playing in the senior championship. Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1008 - 07/11/2019 01:04:50 2248204 Link 0 |
To me it seems unusual to have the 2 competitions linked. In Westmeath you play a lot of league games without your county players, so it wouldn't work here. An example is Killucan, who play division 3 in the league but in the second group of the senior championship. Imo this shows how division 3 isn't their level if they had a full team all the time. iarmhi_an_mhaith (Westmeath) - Posts: 268 - 07/11/2019 10:39:40 2248234 Link 1 |
Yes the team that finishes top of the junior and intermediate leagues will be promoted to the next division up and therefore play in a higher championship the following year the Championship winners of both lower championships will also be promoted to the higher grade bottom 2 teams in Div 1 and 2 automatically go down. There is a playoff then between the teams that finish in the 2nd - 6th in league (excluding championship winner if they are in one of these positions) and the winner of that will play the playoff loser in the grade above. The result of this game determines if a third team is promoted or just 2. conman1282 (Tyrone) - Posts: 88 - 07/11/2019 12:01:26 2248265 Link 0 |
I agree, small clubs can't sustain high standards all year, particularly ones with county players, but that shouldn't mean they can't be in the mix with the best come championship when they have everyone. League and championship should be separate competitions and I'd be hard convinced otherwise.
Sweetspot (Kildare) - Posts: 323 - 07/11/2019 12:15:00 2248271 Link 1 |
I just had a look there, it seems there was no senior club league or championship football played in Tyrone from mid June to mid August. In most counties where league and championship is kept seperate club football games would be played all summer as relegation or promotion in the league is not as big a deal, so they play without county players. Arguments can be made for and against both systems but I don't think either one puts anyone at a disadvantage come the club provincial championships.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 07/11/2019 12:34:40 2248276 Link 0 |