National Forum

Joe Brolly Finished With RTE

(Oldest Posts First) - Go To The Latest Post


Replying To Whammo86:  "I will not miss him.

I never understood the Joe Brolly being "box office" (i'm cringing typing that phrase) description.

He's an average GAA pundit, with a bit of a colourful turn of phrase and with a sense that he's got free license to say whatever comes into his head.

He's hijacked so many conversations at times to discuss whatever it is that's of interest to him.

He goes off at all sorts of tangents. I think he views himself as some sort of saviour of the Association, he's more interested in the workings of the upper offices of the sport than he is in the games himself.

I actually just think he's not that good of a pundit either. I never feel he's said something new or enlightened.

I think it's funny how after the Mayo Dublin semi final we was praising himself for calling their kick outs, the weak link. At halftime of that game he was specifically questioning the short kickout strategy. Mayo in the second half got cleared out in midfield as they went long which was actually what Brolly was advocating they do.

His relationship with Joanne is toxic, and although the hurling coverage is far from perfect at least there is some flow to what they're doing. That has me thinking it's less Joanne's fault than Brolly's.

I'm glad to see the back of him."
I actually think that he is a legend!

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3664 - 11/09/2019 22:08:51    2234598

Link

Good riddance

moros (Roscommon) - Posts: 908 - 11/09/2019 22:33:56    2234606

Link

He's gone, move on and not fall into the same trap as Joe, not knowing when to stop.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1584 - 11/09/2019 22:53:07    2234610

Link

Replying To GreenandRed:  "Now a hidden agenda thread."
:D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 11/09/2019 23:09:09    2234618

Link

Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Is it good viewing? I certainly don't think it is. It's getting really really old at this stage and the SKY coverage is making absolute fools of them.

The place for emotion and heated discussion / arguments is the pub after the game or on message boards like this. I have zero interest in watching Brolly, Spillane and the others bickering over their opinions. The H/T analysis of the final was a new low and they had to do something."
If the choice is Joe or cardboard cut outs reading from scripts afraid to offend the snowflakes in the viewership or, worse still, afraid to object to something that the host or another panelist says then I'll have Joe all day long thanks. Yes he's over the top and it's Joe centred but once you know that, it makes for good TV. Personally I don't like Sky's sterile passionless analysis. I'm sure there's a balance to be struck.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3990 - 11/09/2019 23:21:13    2234619

Link

Sky could do with getting rid of a certain Tyrone former player too

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 2707 - 12/09/2019 00:16:46    2234621

Link

Long overdue, Joe and a few more should've been put out to pasture long ago. He courts controversy in an attempt to stay relevant. Joanne Cantwell is a bright and intelligent host for RTE yet he choose to go to battle with her from day 1, looks like Joe lost the battle & the war, I see crocodile tears everywhere for poor Joe. Still he can concentrate on his own football management career now that he has more time on his hands.

dontlookback (Galway) - Posts: 123 - 12/09/2019 00:25:19    2234625

Link

Replying To Joxer:  "Joe all day long. We need emotion, we need arguments, we need controversy. It's good viewing and let's face it, RTE need the advertisement cash. I just don't see Rochford having a shouting match with Spillane and I certainly don't see him getting emotional over an Tyrone player's rugby tackle. Give it a year and everyone, RTE included, will be calling for his return. Name your price Joe!"
They said the same about Hook and Dunphy. Anyone who needs entertainment from pundits to tune into a match needs to have a word with themselves.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 6503 - 12/09/2019 03:14:32    2234631

Link

It has been obvious for a long time that Brolly is the tank for Dublin and that is fine up to a point but when you attack the credibility of the referee because you've let the bias cloud your thinking you can't be covering Dublin games anymore. It is ok to criticize the performance of a referee or player on the field but when you question the character of the people involved in the game you've crossed the line of no return.

On a side note; I spoke with a former referee on Sunday after the game and he said that Cooper's sending off was correct and he stated why the referee made the right decision. It is obvious from the RTE coverage that none of the panelists had a proper understanding of the rules and even Kevin McStay wrote an article saying as much. So I would suggest that RTE have retired referee, as part of the commentary team, that could explain why certain decisions were made during the game

JuniorBee (Mayo) - Posts: 40 - 12/09/2019 05:31:04    2234632

Link

Listen RTE's coverage jumped the shark a long time ago so watching the games aside I won't be taking in much of the Sunday Game 'analysis'.

Joe is one of the loudest and most obnoxious attention seekers in the history of the show. I never warmed to him, couldn't stand him infact, but it's a matter of taste I suppose.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8256 - 12/09/2019 07:10:46    2234633

Link

Joe always struck me as a fella who would look back at himself on recordings and be like" watch this bit " while giggling about how he wound up Spillane.
A character no doubt but a bit wearing after a while I'd say. Cantwell, no , sorry, she's not for me and yes ,while she's the host , is just too bloody picky.
In fairness, Whelan is generally good and when you consider how biased some of the other commentators can be, I don't think he does too bad. O Rourke is never going to upset too many but just doesn't contribute a lot for me.
The hurling panelists are generally good but let themselves down a bit on the final.
Bottom line is most of them struggle to be professional when accessing the games when it comes down to the hard calls and are usually biased. It's like they're afraid of what Mick the butcher will say to them on Monday.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2070 - 12/09/2019 07:42:32    2234637

Link

Replying To tearintom:  "The fact is Brolly as an analyst finished years ago, eons ago.

He basically been using his platform to pursue agendas and games of one upmanship.

Any analyst who actually doesnt analyse games anymore being dropped isnt a loss.

I want somebody analysing the game who can pick up and point out something i may have missed myself during the course of the game, not one who tries to tell you what youve just seen with your own two eyes hasnt really happened just so he can rile up the fella next to him.

No loss."
This is true. There's lot going on tactically in the modern game that I find fascinating but that I don't understand. I like having that stuff explained to me. Coming from the 70s and 80s as I do, I may understand skills and individual battles, but I do not have much understanding of tactics. The problem is that pundits of my generation don't understand the modern game either, and, instead of admitting that and trying to learn, they spend half their time bitching about it.

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 572 - 12/09/2019 08:36:03    2234640

Link

Joe Brolly at his best!
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1171699685809147904

baire (Galway) - Posts: 756 - 12/09/2019 09:18:25    2234646

Link

Brolly did a sketch with Conor Moore ( Conors Sketches) and afterwards kept texting him to see how many likes and views it got.

His article about going for a pint with Paul Kimmage after the 16 drawn final is one of the most bizarre pieces I have ever read.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 6503 - 12/09/2019 09:49:29    2234655

Link

Replying To TheFlaker:  "They said the same about Hook and Dunphy. Anyone who needs entertainment from pundits to tune into a match needs to have a word with themselves."
It's all entertainment though isn't it, including the game of ball. Joe stops people from going out to make a cup tea and take out the Digestives. They want to see the emotion and clashes with Spillane. It brings the best out of the all even if Joe's trigger point is a nonsense and 50% of the time it is. But it gets the debate going and analysis juices flowing. Cardboard cut outs aren't going to do that.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3990 - 12/09/2019 09:51:06    2234656

Link

Replying To JuniorBee:  "It has been obvious for a long time that Brolly is the tank for Dublin and that is fine up to a point but when you attack the credibility of the referee because you've let the bias cloud your thinking you can't be covering Dublin games anymore. It is ok to criticize the performance of a referee or player on the field but when you question the character of the people involved in the game you've crossed the line of no return.

On a side note; I spoke with a former referee on Sunday after the game and he said that Cooper's sending off was correct and he stated why the referee made the right decision. It is obvious from the RTE coverage that none of the panelists had a proper understanding of the rules and even Kevin McStay wrote an article saying as much. So I would suggest that RTE have retired referee, as part of the commentary team, that could explain why certain decisions were made during the game"
Having a retired ref on the odd time is a good idea. Plus it would be a good acknowledgement to the men in the middle that have a huge part to play in our games

Mickhiggins (Galway) - Posts: 25 - 12/09/2019 09:57:45    2234657

Link

Replying To Joxer:  "If the choice is Joe or cardboard cut outs reading from scripts afraid to offend the snowflakes in the viewership or, worse still, afraid to object to something that the host or another panelist says then I'll have Joe all day long thanks. Yes he's over the top and it's Joe centred but once you know that, it makes for good TV. Personally I don't like Sky's sterile passionless analysis. I'm sure there's a balance to be struck."
Ahhhhh yes. The "snowflake argument." Great for the oul Twitter analysis and generally acting ignorant. But that's another topic altogether.

I 100% agree with the sky/balance to be struck. I really like Sky's analysis, I think everyone can agree its miles ahead off RTE's (as RTE don't really do analysis, more about agenda's and one upmanship), but I think they need a bit more off script opinions.

RTE have to mix it up, throw in a journalist or take 5-6 mins of HT to do in depth analysis then let them rant away.

What is really missing is a mid week show, preview upcoming games with a fun element mixed with interviews.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 1699 - 12/09/2019 10:25:27    2234665

Link

Replying To JuniorBee:  "It has been obvious for a long time that Brolly is the tank for Dublin and that is fine up to a point but when you attack the credibility of the referee because you've let the bias cloud your thinking you can't be covering Dublin games anymore. It is ok to criticize the performance of a referee or player on the field but when you question the character of the people involved in the game you've crossed the line of no return.

On a side note; I spoke with a former referee on Sunday after the game and he said that Cooper's sending off was correct and he stated why the referee made the right decision. It is obvious from the RTE coverage that none of the panelists had a proper understanding of the rules and even Kevin McStay wrote an article saying as much. So I would suggest that RTE have retired referee, as part of the commentary team, that could explain why certain decisions were made during the game"
True but why only penalise Joe. Spillane went after Connolly a few years ago much like Brolly went after Cavanagh but that was grand. Also should the same apply to our commentators? McStay shouting yes when Kerry got the goal. Saying every decision was spot on that went against Dublin and calling out everyone that went against Kerry. Shouldn't they be neutral and commentate the match accordingly. McStay saying Con O'Callaghan flung Keegan to the ground in the semi final when it was obvious he slipped. Carney crying when Mayo lost one of the finals recently. Where do you draw the line?

lilylanger (Kildare) - Posts: 353 - 12/09/2019 10:27:31    2234666

Link

RTE created the problem where they have the same old hacks on every weekend, it should be rotated constantly.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 956 - 12/09/2019 10:29:44    2234667

Link

Replying To Curlew66:  "Other panelists will get an opportunity to talk now without being constantly interrupted by "Hold on, hold on until I tell you what so and so (name drop) said to me". It will make Joanne's job a little easier as the panel was becoming the 'Joe show'. Tends to rehash his thoughts of the week from his Sindo article on TSG anyway so we will still know his point of view. Admire his work highlighting organ donation but it's probably time for panelists who will analyze the game in progress."
Well said. my thoughts exactly.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5233 - 12/09/2019 10:34:42    2234668

Link