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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay

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O'Shea was excellent on Sunday, particularly his place-kicking. He has great range off the ground and made all of the 45s look routine.
It sets up an intriguing replay, in which both teams will feel they can improve a lot.
I have to say I was seriously impressed with how Dublin battled to dominate the last 10 mins, including injury time. The momentum was all with Kerry up to that point.
I felt that a 2 point gap might've finished it, but they just wouldn't let Kerry out of their half. To manage to put so much pressure on, having played with 14 for so long was a testament to their will and refusal to lose.
Both teams gave us great entertainment and I'm glad we get to see them go at it again.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 03/09/2019 15:23:58    2232433

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "O'Shea was excellent on Sunday, particularly his place-kicking. He has great range off the ground and made all of the 45s look routine.
It sets up an intriguing replay, in which both teams will feel they can improve a lot.
I have to say I was seriously impressed with how Dublin battled to dominate the last 10 mins, including injury time. The momentum was all with Kerry up to that point.
I felt that a 2 point gap might've finished it, but they just wouldn't let Kerry out of their half. To manage to put so much pressure on, having played with 14 for so long was a testament to their will and refusal to lose.
Both teams gave us great entertainment and I'm glad we get to see them go at it again."
It was a fantastic Dublin press in that last 15m when they tackled like maniacs and with ferocity to turn the ball over several times and keep Kerry pinned. A huge effort. It was similar to the Mayo blitz in terms of intensity but they left it late although clearly with Fenton below bar and only 14 men so that was a factor. Next day out the Dubs need to bring fire from the throw-in and not just in a 15m burst. Huge calls to be made by Gavin in that starting 15. I expect to see one or two changes.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4081 - 03/09/2019 17:42:05    2232484

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I can see Gavin recalling Brogan if they are still on good terms. Connolly won't play a minute. The free pass he gets from the Dubs on this topic is bizarre in my opinion.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 6536 - 03/09/2019 18:23:32    2232503

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Replying To Joxer:  "It was a fantastic Dublin press in that last 15m when they tackled like maniacs and with ferocity to turn the ball over several times and keep Kerry pinned. A huge effort. It was similar to the Mayo blitz in terms of intensity but they left it late although clearly with Fenton below bar and only 14 men so that was a factor. Next day out the Dubs need to bring fire from the throw-in and not just in a 15m burst. Huge calls to be made by Gavin in that starting 15. I expect to see one or two changes."
The Dublin team is the same as last year bar that McMahon and O'Sullivan are on the bench.Jim Gavin has also brought Connolly back.I think any winning team needs to bring in one or two new players each year to freshen things up.Cody always did that with Kilkenny when they were in their prime.The talent must be there in Dublin to bring a couple of new lads into the team each year.Dublin are definitely lacking that freshness and it showed last Sunday but they were still good enough to hold on for the draw.

endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 1158 - 03/09/2019 18:30:28    2232508

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "Big deal! Stare outs don't win matches!"
So you agree with the rest!!!!

I thought the stareout was my imagination but his head was like an old Action Man's with the yoke in the back for swivelling the eyes.

The replay will be another cracker. May the best team win.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 5498 - 03/09/2019 18:37:03    2232510

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I wonder was time up and he had no choice but to go direct. He had very little space to work with, he was practically by the front row of the stand at the start of his walk up.

Even though the angle would have been terrible for a left footed kicker, Cluxton might have been a good option because at least he would have had a proper run up/ walk up to it on grass and in a decent arc.

It was very clever by Tommy Walsh to be getting ready to lift Moran up Rugby style to catch the ball. Is that legal, I assume it is?"
You're probably right 87 . it was a free shot what ever happened, if I was him I'd have gone off the hands but rock had a great game and I'm sure he'll make up for it the next day.

As for Tommy going lifting Moran I don't know if it's legal or not, could anyone tell us if they know?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9982 - 03/09/2019 19:05:23    2232517

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Replying To endgame:  "The Dublin team is the same as last year bar that McMahon and O'Sullivan are on the bench.Jim Gavin has also brought Connolly back.I think any winning team needs to bring in one or two new players each year to freshen things up.Cody always did that with Kilkenny when they were in their prime.The talent must be there in Dublin to bring a couple of new lads into the team each year.Dublin are definitely lacking that freshness and it showed last Sunday but they were still good enough to hold on for the draw."
Gas thing is, people on here were preaching all Summer about the talent "conveyor belt", never-ending string of AIs in Dublin. The football profits of doom were predicting an end to competition in football. I'll stick by what I said through the Summer, a host of 2011 vets are the backbone of this squad, 9-10 players. There is no all-star player production line in Dublin. POCB was on the bench on Sunday and has potential but the only new face in the match day panel last week I believe. Expect several retirements in the days following the replay. A changing of the guard is not far away.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4081 - 03/09/2019 19:32:17    2232526

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "You're probably right 87 . it was a free shot what ever happened, if I was him I'd have gone off the hands but rock had a great game and I'm sure he'll make up for it the next day.

As for Tommy going lifting Moran I don't know if it's legal or not, could anyone tell us if they know?"
I don't think it's 'illegal' but its not something I would like to see creep into the game. But having said that, it was good thinking.

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 03/09/2019 20:38:03    2232544

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "I can see Gavin recalling Brogan if they are still on good terms. Connolly won't play a minute. The free pass he gets from the Dubs on this topic is bizarre in my opinion."
Deciding to step away for a while is hardly any reason for Dub supporters to get the hump with Connolly considering all the work and sacrifice he's made to entertain us since he came into the panel 12/13 years ago.

I find that a little bizarre that we should feel differently or am I missing something?

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 12781 - 03/09/2019 20:56:39    2232547

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Kerry have a great chance if they can keep goals out again.

Dubs showing their age now.
8 of the named 26 the last day were 31+

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 308 - 03/09/2019 21:17:18    2232554

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Replying To realdub:  "I don't think it's 'illegal' but its not something I would like to see creep into the game. But having said that, it was good thinking."
I know but I wouldn't have been complaining if it had worked, I wonder could we have fellas jumping up on the crossbar? Actually did that happen in a game years ago?

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9982 - 03/09/2019 22:00:22    2232572

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Replying To plike:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "The last day is gone. The next day will be different.

Dublin's midfield will be better. Their backs won't try to saddle Clifford. They will play the percentages better.

Kerry's forwards will be more accurate. They won't let McCaffrey go on Waltzing Matilda runs. They will show more steel near the finish line.

plike (Kerry) - Posts: 524 - 03/09/2019 12:27:51


In fairness I don't think any of that is a given.

Dublin's midfield might not be better, might be worse, who knows? Maybe they'll have the sam problems with Clifford and get another red card.

Kerry forwards might not be more accurate, and if they're to stop McCaffrey's runs , what sacrifices will need to be made? If any? There's no guarantee they'll show more steel."
Replays are usually different though, aren't they? Men who shone on the first, fade in the second- and vice versa. It's the men who didn't do themselves justice who may well do far better the next day. It also bears mentioning that what worked a treat first time around will be expected and presumably dealt with at the second time of asking.

That said, all the blether is pointless. Even tactics have their limits. Which of the two shows more dog. Which really wants it more. Which will leave every drop of sweat they have on the field. They're both talented enough. They both having the makings of champions. Let's see which of them can serve it up to perfection, or as close as they can manage!"
If players don't 'do themselves justice' it's because they met a better man on the day. Managements have to come up with new tactics, strategies or match-ups to try to break the stranglehold that opponents had on their players the last day. Star men for the opposition in the first game will get special attention also.Gavin and Keane will be busy with analysis before the replay and will hope they don't mirror each other in their changes.
Here's to another cracker of a game.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1613 - 03/09/2019 23:22:15    2232596

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "You're probably right 87 . it was a free shot what ever happened, if I was him I'd have gone off the hands but rock had a great game and I'm sure he'll make up for it the next day.

As for Tommy going lifting Moran I don't know if it's legal or not, could anyone tell us if they know?"
You'd imagine it is. Often wondered why, facing a last-minute potentially-equalising or winning 45, the goalie just didn't hop up on the crossbar for a dropping ball ... unless there's some rule against assists? Though you'd be an all-time eejit / you-tube "what happened next" legend if you caught it and still fell back over the bar ...

essmac (Tyrone) - Posts: 607 - 04/09/2019 00:47:27    2232607

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "I know but I wouldn't have been complaining if it had worked, I wonder could we have fellas jumping up on the crossbar? Actually did that happen in a game years ago?"
Ha ha ha, I don't know to be honest, could ya imagine it? A team could build a human pyramid on the crossbar :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7701 - 04/09/2019 02:11:27    2232611

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Hope it's another great game and although I think Dublin should win if they keep 15 men for the whole game I am more convinced after this first outing that this Kerry team do have a real chance of winning the replay. I'd stick Stephen O' Brien on Jack Mc Caffrey and tell him to stay by his side all day. There's loads to think about for both teams but anything is possible. I do think Kerry will have gained a bit more in terms of self belief and Dublin might feel a bit rattled by what happened. Thought Tommy Walsh did great when he came in,maybe shoulda been in 5/10 mins earlier.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4198 - 04/09/2019 02:47:30    2232612

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Deciding to step away for a while is hardly any reason for Dub supporters to get the hump with Connolly considering all the work and sacrifice he's made to entertain us since he came into the panel 12/13 years ago.

I find that a little bizarre that we should feel differently or am I missing something?"
Where did I say get the hump with Connolly? There doesn't seem to be an acknowledgement that you can't just step back in and be back at it. I don't think he is up to it. I think Gavin has made a huge mistake.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 6536 - 04/09/2019 03:50:43    2232615

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Deciding to step away for a while is hardly any reason for Dub supporters to get the hump with Connolly considering all the work and sacrifice he's made to entertain us since he came into the panel 12/13 years ago.

I find that a little bizarre that we should feel differently or am I missing something?"
What's with the obsession with Connolly. Hes a great player but hes being made into the greatest player of all time somehow.

In reality he has a real bad temper is a liability sometimes and showed no loyalty to dub by going to usa last year. If it wasnt for a visa issue this year he would be back in USA with not a thought about Dublin.

For him to be played in front of any dublin player who has dedicated themselves to dublinthid last 2 years is a joke in my opinion.

On a side note that ridiculous effort he had from 50 meters out against kerry was him trying to steal the headlines by scoring the winning point. Any other player would have worked in closer to a man in a better position.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 227 - 04/09/2019 07:21:22    2232620

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Replying To centerfield:  "Kerry have a great chance if they can keep goals out again.

Dubs showing their age now.
8 of the named 26 the last day were 31+"
8 of the 26 ! Wow , that's less than a third.
You could also say that's a good blend of youth and experience.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2148 - 04/09/2019 08:14:24    2232626

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Looking forward to this game but am worried the ref will be the deciding factor, a bad call here and there can easily change a game

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 04/09/2019 09:29:51    2232639

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Replying To riverboys:  "Looking forward to this game but am worried the ref will be the deciding factor, a bad call here and there can easily change a game"
Nothing new there , every game the ref can be the deciding factor , sometimes it goes for you , sometimes against.

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 1889 - 04/09/2019 09:57:54    2232650

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