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Replying To TheHermit: "That proves my point even more, thanks for that correction." If you think that it proves your point even more, you are not grasping the facts! Leicester and Spurs were the teams fighting it out for the Premiership that year... in the circumstances of course a Leicester referee couldnt be appointed to a Spurs match. But that isnt even remotely similar to this situation.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1902 - 14/08/2019 20:02:17
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sure let him ref it, what else do Meath have to look forward 2. Just wondering, if Meath are in a game does he get to ref it?
maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1196 - 14/08/2019 20:17:25
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Replying To Joxer: "Wow. What's this Paidi called their fans again?
Protest being organised for Fitzgerald Stadium apparently courtesy of the media frenzy created by Eamo and Aido. I really pity Gough here. Who would have thought that a Meath man would be accused by a Kerry man of favoring a group Dublin men. Amateur man just trying to do a voluntary job and his integrity is called into question without any basis for the charge." Protest being organised for Fitzgerald stadium.
I hope you ate wrong. where did you see that.
BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 14/08/2019 20:29:49
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Why is it that every time we play Dublin in the championship that it is refereed by a ref who is both working and living in Dublin?
Dub joe David coldrick and Gough. i have nothing against Gough as a ref and if he was reffing us against any other county except Meath as well obviously.
gallarus14 (Kerry) - Posts: 127 - 14/08/2019 20:32:54
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Replying To BoynesideBlue: "Protest being organised for Fitzgerald stadium.
I hope you ate wrong. where did you see that." All over social media, event page setup on FB. Search for Protest Against David Gough's Appointment on FB. Setup by the Kerry GAA Supporters Club. 121 going so far!!! Where would you see it?
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/08/2019 20:45:45
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Replying To Joxer: "All over social media, event page setup on FB. Search for Protest Against David Gough's Appointment on FB. Setup by the Kerry GAA Supporters Club. 121 going so far!!! Where would you see it?" I seen it and of course Kerry never ever got a decision from any ref. Yeah right
Paidi didn't even get sent off for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkw0z11XO6M
BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 14/08/2019 20:49:36
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Replying To gallarus14: "Why is it that every time we play Dublin in the championship that it is refereed by a ref who is both working and living in Dublin?
Dub joe David coldrick and Gough. i have nothing against Gough as a ref and if he was reffing us against any other county except Meath as well obviously." Dublin is a big place. Lots and lots of non-Dubs living here as we keep telling those you make the population argument. It shouldn't be a surprise to discover that a teacher from a neighbouring county is working as a teacher there. Gough is a Meath man. Bit of rivalry there you know.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/08/2019 20:49:44
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Replying To Joxer: "All over social media, event page setup on FB. Search for Protest Against David Gough's Appointment on FB. Setup by the Kerry GAA Supporters Club. 121 going so far!!! Where would you see it?" Absolute embarrassment if that goes ahead.
Shameful.
supermon (Monaghan) - Posts: 1073 - 14/08/2019 21:10:12
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Replying To supermon: "Absolute embarrassment if that goes ahead.
Shameful." Supermon here's a question for you.
David Gough is the second Slane GFC man to referee inter county football who was the first
BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 14/08/2019 21:13:49
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Replying To Joxer: "All over social media, event page setup on FB. Search for Protest Against David Gough's Appointment on FB. Setup by the Kerry GAA Supporters Club. 121 going so far!!! Where would you see it?" 137 now, but never fear because 416 are interested.
Especially like the map with directions to Fitzgerald Stadium. :D
Never stop Kerry.
TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 14/08/2019 21:22:19
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Replying To TheUsername: "137 now, but never fear because 416 are interested.
Especially like the map with directions to Fitzgerald Stadium. :D
Never stop Kerry." Combined that's almost more than they brought to Ennis for a game in the MSFC (600 Kerry fans). More interested in protesting than actually supporting their team it seems.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/08/2019 21:35:23
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Playing the greatest Dublin team of all time in Dublin with a Dublin ref, the least the GAA could do is give us a ten point head start........ probably not enough, so how about half price tickets ;)
ky_dub (Kerry) - Posts: 16 - 14/08/2019 21:37:22
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Replying To TheUsername: "137 now, but never fear because 416 are interested.
Especially like the map with directions to Fitzgerald Stadium. :D
Never stop Kerry." FFS... lol
jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 14/08/2019 21:37:49
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I posted this on the native page, it's rare these days I venture on the national forum ..
As for Gough. This doesn't actually bother me. It's a bit alarming that the Gaa don't have a ref of high standard in Connacht or Ulster. I have no problem where a ref is from, living, married to or the car he drives once he is fair.
We played a match recently where the ref was a no show, the opposing team had a ref in their backroom team. He offered and I said once you are fair and don't intentionally wrong me, I'm ok with it. Hand on heart he was one of the most even and fair refs I've ever come across.
I think the most pressure is on Gough. The seeds have been sown and I think we may get the majority of 50/50 calls as a result. Being honest I think he is a good ref, and probably one the best available.
All we want is fairness. The two linesmen are key too as are the four umpires. Gough is 'Meath' but his four umpires will these be Meath or Dublin. This is where I have an issue.
But if we play within the rules we have nothing to fear, one cannot blame the ref if he catches you fouling.
And it's done now, move on and get our own house in order"
As for talks of a protest, god I hope not, this would just be embarrassing and a crass move. The time wasted 'protesting' might be better served volunteering at their own local club.
Some Gaa fans really need to get a grip.
Horsebox77 (Kerry) - Posts: 5491 - 14/08/2019 21:50:07
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Replying To supermon: "Absolute embarrassment if that goes ahead.
Shameful." The call to arms on it made me laugh we are not mayo etc won't lie down to Dublin and their millions real fire and brimstone stuff. Gough whether you agree or disagree with him getting final has had a v strong media in his corner to get it. V popular figure obviously in the GAA world just not in the kingdom.
seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1798 - 14/08/2019 21:50:47
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Replying To Horsebox77: "I posted this on the native page, it's rare these days I venture on the national forum ..
As for Gough. This doesn't actually bother me. It's a bit alarming that the Gaa don't have a ref of high standard in Connacht or Ulster. I have no problem where a ref is from, living, married to or the car he drives once he is fair.
We played a match recently where the ref was a no show, the opposing team had a ref in their backroom team. He offered and I said once you are fair and don't intentionally wrong me, I'm ok with it. Hand on heart he was one of the most even and fair refs I've ever come across.
I think the most pressure is on Gough. The seeds have been sown and I think we may get the majority of 50/50 calls as a result. Being honest I think he is a good ref, and probably one the best available.
All we want is fairness. The two linesmen are key too as are the four umpires. Gough is 'Meath' but his four umpires will these be Meath or Dublin. This is where I have an issue.
But if we play within the rules we have nothing to fear, one cannot blame the ref if he catches you fouling.
And it's done now, move on and get our own house in order"
As for talks of a protest, god I hope not, this would just be embarrassing and a crass move. The time wasted 'protesting' might be better served volunteering at their own local club.
Some Gaa fans really need to get a grip." I believe that the 4 umpires are family members of Goughs, genuinely, and all with the surname Gough. Now that's 4 Meath men presumably. If that wasn't cause for Dublin to object to his appointment how can Kerry justify it.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 14/08/2019 22:05:05
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Replying To lilylanger: "This is the type of stuff I am talking about with Kerry. They only ever go on about refs decisions they think didnt go their way. That incident with O'Mahony could have easily been red from memory? They are not doing themselves any favours in the build up to this final so far. Peter Keane must be going mad." For someone from Kildare you sure do worry about Dublin a lot....
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Have to laugh at a lot of the pundits, Gaa Corrs and Dubs fans all decrying 'the orchestrated campaign' of Kerry past managers/players to influence the selection of ref for Final. I've lost count of the number of times past Dublin managers/players and indeed the current manager have criticised refs, called for some not to get big games and generally pressurised them ahead of big games with comment in the media. But ya let's just ignore that...
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I think no one - especially Eamon Fitzmaurice - is questioning the honesty, character and dedication of David Gough or his credentials as a referee.
IT IS SIMPLY A QUESTION OF OPTICS AND PERCEPTION AND OF JUSTICE BEING SEEN TO BE DONE.
Quite often Judges have to withdraw from cases for the most obscure reasons. Why is that?
Up to a few years ago the referee for big games was almost always from a neutral province. Why was that?
In 2007 Dublin objected to a Kerry referee (Leinster final 2007 Dublin v Laois) on the basis that the Kerry referee and the Laois manager belonged originally to the same club in Kerry. Why did Dublin object?
Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 14/08/2019 22:27:15
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Replying To TheHermit: "I'm just going to say the below one last time and then leave it there because there's no point talking anymore now that the decision has been made. Kerry will just have to grin and bare it and move one.
However as a general principle:
How would Dublin react if the man in the middle was some fella from Cork or Limerick who lived in Tralee, was essentially a member of Strand Road having thought in the school connected and right next to that GAA club, had been previously photographed after an All-Ireland win with players of the team and the Cup and finally had been allegedly invited into Kerry training sessions that very summer to take charge of practice matches.
I mean if people can't see a conflict of interest there (unintentional as it might be on the part of the official) than you'd have to wonder! How can someone so heavily involved at club level in a competing county and working and living there be expected to be seen as impartial. For the next 3 weeks he will be in Dublin during the buildup and will face the consequences of his actions every day for months after in the capital. And you are telling me that, even at a subconscious level, that can't and won't have an impact?
In the run in to the 2015/16 Premiership title race a ref appointed to one of Leicester's games was stood down because he had, in a private capacity, attended one of their games as a spectator earlier on that season. That was the only link he had with the club and yet the Premier League felt the need to stand him down, he had absolutely no issues with it and neither had Leicester or any of the media. And yet in the GAA we have the above.
How far we have regressed in 90 years. In the early 1930s Cavan objected to playing Kerry because a Munster ref was appointed and the official was duly changed. That was a common enough back then and it was understood that ref's often needed to be changed depending on teams drawn to ensure impartiality.
Like I said, I'll say no more now on it as there's no point.
It's just another pothole placed in front of Kerry on the road to trying to stop an inevitable 5 in a Row." Ah well he won't be fooled like the Galway fear in '09 by the 'diver' Gouch Cooper. You crowd have got the benefit of the doubt more often than you have not....so dun do beil like a good man. I don't give a damn who wins but I don't want to have to listen to our noisy neighbours and their ?? many in a row.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 14/08/2019 22:32:03
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