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Replying To avonali:  "That is simply not true. Moran played well enough in the first match."
I don't Know...Gave away costly turnovers in the first game then was a disaster for the goal as well as 3 very poor wides in the 2nd.

Feel Moran is over hyped at times blows very hot and cold.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 27/09/2019 16:21:59    2239678

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "I don't Know...Gave away costly turnovers in the first game then was a disaster for the goal as well as 3 very poor wides in the 2nd.

Feel Moran is over hyped at times blows very hot and cold."
Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?

greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 27/09/2019 17:45:46    2239688

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Replying To greatpoint:  "Given Ronan McNamee's performances against Donegal and Kerry is he actually likely to get an All-Star?"
I think Morley is more deserving @ full back. Thought he had a strong year at full back.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 27/09/2019 18:29:33    2239701

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Neither Roscommon or Meath will probably get an All star but its hard understand how Meath got three nominations and Roscommon two given both teams Championship seasons. Donegal getting 6 is also very strange

Meath
Scraped past Div 3 Offaly
Hammered Div 3 Carlow
Hammered Div 3 Laois
Hammered by Dublin scoring a mighty 4 points
Scraped past Div 2 Clare
Lost to Donegal by 9
Lost to Mayo by 9
Lost to Kerry by 8

Roscommon
Hammered D4 Leitrim
Beat D1 Mayo Away
Beat D1 Galway Away Connaght Champions
Lost to Tyrone by 4
Hammered by Dublin
Beat Cork Away"
You see that is only half the story.
Meath ahead of donegal with 55 mins on clock.
Ahead of mayo with 55 min on clock
Ahead of Kerry 55 mins on clock.
Lost to donegal in league very unlucky, topped division 2 table, beat all other teams in division 2.
Roscommon relegated from top flight Meath promoted.
Also kept Dublin to 5 points in 35 minutes. Mostly due to menton keoghan who kept a all star player scoreless and had to be subbed, and McGill also may I add lavin to that to. Most teams in ire would kill for McGill lavin menton and particularly keoghan in their team.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 27/09/2019 18:45:12    2239702

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Replying To avonali:  "That is simply not true. Moran played well enough in the first match."
The best of the mid-fielders in the first game.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 27/09/2019 19:33:27    2239705

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Replying To gaelicgab:  "Last time I checked, the All Stars awards are based on individual performances and not on team performance. I'm not sure about McGill but Keoghan and Menton are worthy of their place in the nominations. Menton was the highest scoring midfielder in the championship and Keoghan was exceptional from what I saw against Clare, Donegal and Mayo. Conor Cox would have been on the All Star team if it was picked in June but he won't get one and neither will the Meath lads so not to worry."
The All-Star Awards are team-awards. That's why the finalists get nearly all the awards

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 27/09/2019 19:36:14    2239706

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Replying To royaldunne:  "You see that is only half the story.
Meath ahead of donegal with 55 mins on clock.
Ahead of mayo with 55 min on clock
Ahead of Kerry 55 mins on clock.
Lost to donegal in league very unlucky, topped division 2 table, beat all other teams in division 2.
Roscommon relegated from top flight Meath promoted.
Also kept Dublin to 5 points in 35 minutes. Mostly due to menton keoghan who kept a all star player scoreless and had to be subbed, and McGill also may I add lavin to that to. Most teams in ire would kill for McGill lavin menton and particularly keoghan in their team."
Kept Dublin to 5 but only scored 4 in 80 minutes of ball(including injury time where one of those points was scored). Almost lost at home to an Offaly team that is at an all time low. Roscommon won a Connacht title beating Mayo who have been there or there abouts for the past few seasons and Galway. Roscommon finished with 2 points in the super 8 while Meath finished with 0. Do not forget Royal that Kildare have been where Meath were this year last year and slipped. The Royals are making progress but more of the same will not suffice. Most teams would also kill for Ultan Harney, Conor Cox and Shane Killoran on their day. I wouldn't be crowing about promotion to Div1 you could be back down as quick and Roscommon could be back up as quick.

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 27/09/2019 19:37:34    2239708

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Cluxton
O'Sullivan, Fitzsimons,Keogan
Durcan, Boyle, McCaffrey
Fenton, Moran
Howard, O'Shea, O'Callaghan
Mannion, McShane, Clifford

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 508 - 27/09/2019 19:44:55    2239710

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Replying To sourmilk93:  "Neither Roscommon or Meath will probably get an All star but its hard understand how Meath got three nominations and Roscommon two given both teams Championship seasons. Donegal getting 6 is also very strange

Meath
Scraped past Div 3 Offaly
Hammered Div 3 Carlow
Hammered Div 3 Laois
Hammered by Dublin scoring a mighty 4 points
Scraped past Div 2 Clare
Lost to Donegal by 9
Lost to Mayo by 9
Lost to Kerry by 8

Roscommon
Hammered D4 Leitrim
Beat D1 Mayo Away
Beat D1 Galway Away Connaght Champions
Lost to Tyrone by 4
Hammered by Dublin
Beat Cork Away"
It's more a matter reflection of the field and how poor it is that we got 6 all stars. Cork and Armagh perhaps could justify nominations. Cavan and Galway shocking. Meath very mediocre despite hype. Monaghan not at the races. Who else?

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 27/09/2019 19:51:09    2239714

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "Kept Dublin to 5 but only scored 4 in 80 minutes of ball(including injury time where one of those points was scored). Almost lost at home to an Offaly team that is at an all time low. Roscommon won a Connacht title beating Mayo who have been there or there abouts for the past few seasons and Galway. Roscommon finished with 2 points in the super 8 while Meath finished with 0. Do not forget Royal that Kildare have been where Meath were this year last year and slipped. The Royals are making progress but more of the same will not suffice. Most teams would also kill for Ultan Harney, Conor Cox and Shane Killoran on their day. I wouldn't be crowing about promotion to Div1 you could be back down as quick and Roscommon could be back up as quick."
Team performance. Again there is no better half back in ire than donal keoghan. He would walk into either Kerry or Dublin starting team. To say otherwise would show a extreme lack of football knowledge. It was the forwards who didn't perform v dubs. Not the back 6.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/09/2019 18:42:39    2239864

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "Kept Dublin to 5 but only scored 4 in 80 minutes of ball(including injury time where one of those points was scored). Almost lost at home to an Offaly team that is at an all time low. Roscommon won a Connacht title beating Mayo who have been there or there abouts for the past few seasons and Galway. Roscommon finished with 2 points in the super 8 while Meath finished with 0. Do not forget Royal that Kildare have been where Meath were this year last year and slipped. The Royals are making progress but more of the same will not suffice. Most teams would also kill for Ultan Harney, Conor Cox and Shane Killoran on their day. I wouldn't be crowing about promotion to Div1 you could be back down as quick and Roscommon could be back up as quick."
Nah we won't. Trust me. Btw good luck in division 2, looking at the Westmeath team and current set up you gonna need all the luck you can get.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 28/09/2019 18:44:16    2239866

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Replying To ulsterrules:  "Donegal getting 6 is not strange, promoted as champions Div 2, Ulster champions for second year in a row lost 1 game in the championship only Dublin had a better record in the championship this year.
All that being said only Murphy deserves an all star ."
Totally agree! Patton has an extremely strong case but cluxton deserves it after the year thats in it.
Anyone who thinks Murphy doesnt deserve one what can i do only have a small chuckle to myself...

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 28/09/2019 20:08:41    2239880

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Team performance. Again there is no better half back in ire than donal keoghan. He would walk into either Kerry or Dublin starting team. To say otherwise would show a extreme lack of football knowledge. It was the forwards who didn't perform v dubs. Not the back 6."
The back 6 who conceded 1-12 in the second half...

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 28/09/2019 21:02:19    2239892

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Replying To royaldunne:  "You see that is only half the story.
Meath ahead of donegal with 55 mins on clock.
Ahead of mayo with 55 min on clock
Ahead of Kerry 55 mins on clock.
Lost to donegal in league very unlucky, topped division 2 table, beat all other teams in division 2.
Roscommon relegated from top flight Meath promoted.
Also kept Dublin to 5 points in 35 minutes. Mostly due to menton keoghan who kept a all star player scoreless and had to be subbed, and McGill also may I add lavin to that to. Most teams in ire would kill for McGill lavin menton and particularly keoghan in their team."
If matches lasted 55 minutes you would be All Ireland champions basically?

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 28/09/2019 22:12:59    2239904

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "If matches lasted 55 minutes you would be All Ireland champions basically?"
I think what it shows is a lack of experience. Let's not forget that for the super 8s we were depending on a ff who was after sitting his leaving cert and waiting on results, team had mostly 18/19/20/21/22 year olds , who had never played senior football. They were backed up by menton, McGill and keoghan.
It would seem that some are very wary of Meath and still hold grudges of when Meath last dined at the top table. Meath are a coming team and will only improve, surely that has to be good for football? The more competition the better ? Kerry donegal Meath Galway (if they get a decent manager) even cork all have the potential to dethrone dubs over next 3/4 years. Please tell me how that is and bad thing??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/09/2019 08:34:32    2239941

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Replying To royaldunne:  "You see that is only half the story.
Meath ahead of donegal with 55 mins on clock.
Ahead of mayo with 55 min on clock
Ahead of Kerry 55 mins on clock.
Lost to donegal in league very unlucky, topped division 2 table, beat all other teams in division 2.
Roscommon relegated from top flight Meath promoted.
Also kept Dublin to 5 points in 35 minutes. Mostly due to menton keoghan who kept a all star player scoreless and had to be subbed, and McGill also may I add lavin to that to. Most teams in ire would kill for McGill lavin menton and particularly keoghan in their team."
Meath were so unlucky not to win the all ireland this year, it was sheer bad luck they lost 4 games i really think they'll go all the way next year

achara (Monaghan) - Posts: 562 - 29/09/2019 09:12:07    2239946

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think what it shows is a lack of experience. Let's not forget that for the super 8s we were depending on a ff who was after sitting his leaving cert and waiting on results, team had mostly 18/19/20/21/22 year olds , who had never played senior football. They were backed up by menton, McGill and keoghan.
It would seem that some are very wary of Meath and still hold grudges of when Meath last dined at the top table. Meath are a coming team and will only improve, surely that has to be good for football? The more competition the better ? Kerry donegal Meath Galway (if they get a decent manager) even cork all have the potential to dethrone dubs over next 3/4 years. Please tell me how that is and bad thing??"
What makes you so sure Meath are a "coming team"? Over the last number of years Galway, Monaghan and Kildare were coming teams but never arrived. If Meath were a 55 minute team against Donegal, Mayo and Kerry and a 35 minute team against Dublin that means their game will need to improve 30% against every other Division 1 team and 50% against Dublin. Where do you see it coming from?

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 29/09/2019 17:34:47    2240067

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Replying To The_Fonz:  "What makes you so sure Meath are a "coming team"? Over the last number of years Galway, Monaghan and Kildare were coming teams but never arrived. If Meath were a 55 minute team against Donegal, Mayo and Kerry and a 35 minute team against Dublin that means their game will need to improve 30% against every other Division 1 team and 50% against Dublin. Where do you see it coming from?"
Well firstly all players will be a year older (we had one of the youngest panels in 19)
Secondly one of our main drawbacks this year was gk position that will be rectified next with the introduction of a fantastic young keeper by the name of Andrew beakley , we will also have the returning Lenihane (who took a year off to travel) (top forward in county for past few years) and a huge loss this year, also paddy kennely who took a year off too. The possible returning from America of Ronan jones (although this is not certain). Plenty of scope for improvement, our likely only retiree will be micky burke (a fantastic servant) who was only brought on with 5 mins to go v Kerry in championship as a swan song.
There is plenty I mean plenty to be optimistic about. There is no chance imo of Meath not staying up in division one, think we are better than both Monaghan and Galway, and the games v Tyrone and donegal could go either way. Also wouldn't rule us out v mayo. Dublin and Kerry are ahead of us and will be next year too. But yeah we are very much a coming team.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 29/09/2019 19:25:34    2240089

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Replying To achara:  "Meath were so unlucky not to win the all ireland this year, it was sheer bad luck they lost 4 games i really think they'll go all the way next year"
Definitely. If congress approves 55 minute games over the winter for next summer, then I'll be putting my money on them anyway for Sam

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 29/09/2019 20:27:11    2240107

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Replying To achara:  "Meath were so unlucky not to win the all ireland this year, it was sheer bad luck they lost 4 games i really think they'll go all the way next year"
They won the moral victory all Ireland!

The_Fonz (Westmeath) - Posts: 213 - 30/09/2019 00:09:28    2240174

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