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bit late after the event but great to have seen some many teams from all over the world taking part in the World Games a few weeks ago, especially great to see the teams that have no Irish players at all playing. Wonderful to see the work of Irish ex pats around the world bringing our games to all these countries they have moved to and seeing some of the locals embrace the sport. Also wonderful to see the teams of non irish born taking part, there a few teams in London now entering competing in the senior competitions in London which have to have exclusively London born players.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 14/08/2019 10:07:51    2225425

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Yeah, gaelic games are surprisingly attractive to non-Irish people once they know about them. In my time living on the continent, I've seen teams of Germans, Italians, Spanish (Galicians), try their hand at football and hurling.

Of course the level isn't what it is back in Ireland, but that doesn't really matter, its about the social dimension and creation of new communities.

Our hurling team has two lads who are opera professionals in it, I reckon we're the only hurling team in the world with that claim to fame ;)

As regards the World Games, seems like the Aussies, US and Middle East are dominating, some very lopsided games in it. Great to offer lads and ladies the chance to play in Croke Park all the same.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 14/08/2019 16:08:01    2225671

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Replying To Rosineri1:  "bit late after the event but great to have seen some many teams from all over the world taking part in the World Games a few weeks ago, especially great to see the teams that have no Irish players at all playing. Wonderful to see the work of Irish ex pats around the world bringing our games to all these countries they have moved to and seeing some of the locals embrace the sport. Also wonderful to see the teams of non irish born taking part, there a few teams in London now entering competing in the senior competitions in London which have to have exclusively London born players."
London GAA are putting a lot of work into developing homegrown players. They building a new center of excellence. Experienced players from Ireland will always be a vital asset but homegrown players are necessary for future success.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 14/08/2019 17:00:46    2225709

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "London GAA are putting a lot of work into developing homegrown players. They building a new center of excellence. Experienced players from Ireland will always be a vital asset but homegrown players are necessary for future success."
Surely based on the GAA's infamous population argument we will see Dublins funding returning to other Counties level with the bulk going to grow the game in a city with a population of 8 million or so? :)

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1326 - 14/08/2019 17:37:00    2225724

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Replying To tearintom:  "Surely based on the GAA's infamous population argument we will see Dublins funding returning to other Counties level with the bulk going to grow the game in a city with a population of 8 million or so? :)"
I don't think London recurve funding from the GAA.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 14/08/2019 18:40:56    2225752

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "I don't think London recurve funding from the GAA."
Have never played in London but I know of at least one case where a club was coming under a lot of pressure due to the various affiliation fees it had to pay to the GAA/ LGFA. While some small supports in exist in the form of grants to international clubs, this is often offset by the various fees that have to be paid to various bodies (which is a consideration if you have both men's and women's teams in a club, as most do).

I was also a club secretary for three years and the bureaucracy of dealing with the GAA, LGFA, Camogie Association and the regional bodies is off the charts.

Plus if one of the higher ups from one of the aforementioned bodies fancies a trip over to present a cup or something, guess who foots the bill?

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2019 06:48:47    2225880

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "I don't think London recurve funding from the GAA."
Britain received €540k in games development from Central Council. They also received 50k as part of their share of the basic distribution, 184k in operating costs for overall more than €770k being received from central funding.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4202 - 15/08/2019 07:08:19    2225885

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Actually London also then received just under 630k then additionally to that.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4202 - 15/08/2019 07:10:47    2225886

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Replying To Hawkeye9212:  "London GAA are putting a lot of work into developing homegrown players. They building a new center of excellence. Experienced players from Ireland will always be a vital asset but homegrown players are necessary for future success."
in London a lot of the home grown born players have found it hard to adjust to going from playing with all London born lads at underage and then going straight into a senior squad of mostly fellas from Ireland, the all London born teams have let them adjust to adult football and then break into the clubs senior teams.
Also they ABC championships have been a great success, its an All Britain underage competition which brings teams from all over Britain together, really good for players from some of the weaker counties in UK to test themselves against best teams in Britain.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 15/08/2019 08:55:15    2225899

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Have never played in London but I know of at least one case where a club was coming under a lot of pressure due to the various affiliation fees it had to pay to the GAA/ LGFA. While some small supports in exist in the form of grants to international clubs, this is often offset by the various fees that have to be paid to various bodies (which is a consideration if you have both men's and women's teams in a club, as most do).

I was also a club secretary for three years and the bureaucracy of dealing with the GAA, LGFA, Camogie Association and the regional bodies is off the charts.

Plus if one of the higher ups from one of the aforementioned bodies fancies a trip over to present a cup or something, guess who foots the bill?"
What are the fixtures like in Europe, I would expect you get host one weekend and have to travel the various other cities for the weekends they host is that the case? Is it all player funded or do you have good sponsors?

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 15/08/2019 10:59:25    2225948

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Replying To Rosineri1:  "What are the fixtures like in Europe, I would expect you get host one weekend and have to travel the various other cities for the weekends they host is that the case? Is it all player funded or do you have good sponsors?"
Europe is split into regions for football (Iberia, sub-region of Galicia, France, sub-region of Brittany, Scandinavia, Benelux, then the enormous region of Central East, which comprises everything from Poland, Germany, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Italy).

There are three to four regional tournaments per year in different cities, in which you play a blitz format of short games (20-30 minutes), 11 per side. If you get to a final you can expect to play 5-6 matches in a day.

There's also the Pan-Europeans which is open to all 90 or so clubs in Europe, which has junior, intermediate and senior grades. This year's competition takes place on 19th October in Vienna.

There's also a 15 a side championship played up in Maastricht every year, but that tends to involve a small number of the larger clubs.

For hurling, there are fewer clubs, so each of the five tourneys per year is open to all clubs in Europe. Finals take place in Dresden on 5th October.

In terms of funding, its mostly player funded. Each club will have a sponsor or two but I have the impression that the sums involved are quite small generally, certainly not on a par with some other regions of the world that have larger Irish communities.

The other thing that makes County Europe different is the proportion of non-Irish involvement: by observation I would say about one-third of the players are from non-Irish backgrounds.

More info here: https://gaelicgameseurope.com/

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2019 15:12:34    2226026

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I think we should enter, I reckon Dublin would have a good chance of being world champions :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 15/08/2019 17:54:35    2226117

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Replying To realdub:  "I think we should enter, I reckon Dublin would have a good chance of being world champions :D"
Yep! It's all about winning.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 15/08/2019 18:54:05    2226138

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Replying To neverright:  "Yep! It's all about winning."
You got that right :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 15/08/2019 19:36:43    2226149

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Replying To realdub:  "I think we should enter, I reckon Dublin would have a good chance of being world champions :D"
But only in football...

I suppose ye'd also get to play at home again given the final's in Croker ;)

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 15/08/2019 19:47:28    2226153

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Replying To Gleebo:  "But only in football...

I suppose ye'd also get to play at home again given the final's in Croker ;)"
I should hope so :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8584 - 15/08/2019 20:40:32    2226164

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Replying To neverright:  "Yep! It's all about winning."
Only football, but then that's all you mean right?

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4895 - 15/08/2019 21:49:35    2226196

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Europe is split into regions for football (Iberia, sub-region of Galicia, France, sub-region of Brittany, Scandinavia, Benelux, then the enormous region of Central East, which comprises everything from Poland, Germany, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Italy).

There are three to four regional tournaments per year in different cities, in which you play a blitz format of short games (20-30 minutes), 11 per side. If you get to a final you can expect to play 5-6 matches in a day.

There's also the Pan-Europeans which is open to all 90 or so clubs in Europe, which has junior, intermediate and senior grades. This year's competition takes place on 19th October in Vienna.

There's also a 15 a side championship played up in Maastricht every year, but that tends to involve a small number of the larger clubs.

For hurling, there are fewer clubs, so each of the five tourneys per year is open to all clubs in Europe. Finals take place in Dresden on 5th October.

In terms of funding, its mostly player funded. Each club will have a sponsor or two but I have the impression that the sums involved are quite small generally, certainly not on a par with some other regions of the world that have larger Irish communities.

The other thing that makes County Europe different is the proportion of non-Irish involvement: by observation I would say about one-third of the players are from non-Irish backgrounds.

More info here: https://gaelicgameseurope.com/"
that's great stuff, it definitely has been growing, I am involved in London with a club and feel we have it a lot easier than you guys, I know the European ladies football champions enter the All Ireland Junior, do any of the mens teams enter? I will have to try and get over for one of the competitions some weekend , be great to see. I follow the Moscow Shamrocks on social media, they put in an awful lot of effort. Games in Vienna will be at the rugby club over there?

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 16/08/2019 09:31:14    2226264

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Europe is split into regions for football (Iberia, sub-region of Galicia, France, sub-region of Brittany, Scandinavia, Benelux, then the enormous region of Central East, which comprises everything from Poland, Germany, Austria, Czechia, Slovakia, Italy).

There are three to four regional tournaments per year in different cities, in which you play a blitz format of short games (20-30 minutes), 11 per side. If you get to a final you can expect to play 5-6 matches in a day.

There's also the Pan-Europeans which is open to all 90 or so clubs in Europe, which has junior, intermediate and senior grades. This year's competition takes place on 19th October in Vienna.

There's also a 15 a side championship played up in Maastricht every year, but that tends to involve a small number of the larger clubs.

For hurling, there are fewer clubs, so each of the five tourneys per year is open to all clubs in Europe. Finals take place in Dresden on 5th October.

In terms of funding, its mostly player funded. Each club will have a sponsor or two but I have the impression that the sums involved are quite small generally, certainly not on a par with some other regions of the world that have larger Irish communities.

The other thing that makes County Europe different is the proportion of non-Irish involvement: by observation I would say about one-third of the players are from non-Irish backgrounds.

More info here: https://gaelicgameseurope.com/"
just checked the website, fantastic spread of clubs, amazing the amount of teams in Galicia and Brittany, great to see there are a number of underage teams also.

Rosineri1 (UK) - Posts: 2099 - 16/08/2019 09:48:33    2226270

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Replying To realdub:  "I think we should enter, I reckon Dublin would have a good chance of being world champions :D"
Sadly realdub Ireland and the UK are excluded, so you'll have to do with just been the boring old champions of Ireland :)

gilly1910 (Galway) - Posts: 170 - 16/08/2019 10:10:28    2226277

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