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Replying To jimbodub:  ""Ahh but sure tis only a team of boys with snotty noses and dirty faces held together with fairy dust""
There's a bouncy castle and stuffed baby shark toys promised if they win the all ireland

Jaysus go easy on the fairies will you, the bomber, Padjo Spillane, Paul Galvin and the Gooch will be dancing round one of their fairy rings in their briefs with big sticks putting the gypsey goo on us.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2658 - 12/08/2019 21:10:33    2224900

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Replying To plike:  "I expect Dublin to come on in their usual fashion. They are favourites for a reason. They deserve respect. They already have it.

As for us, we need to be better. It's that simple. Stronger and more disciplined at the back. More assertive in the middle. Willing to attack in waves and with confidence. If they do that then we'll have a game to remember.

While I know it is virtually a religion for some on here to bad mouth the opposition and to belly ache until the cows come home, I'm not into that, thanks for asking. Our team has some future ahead of them. This Dublin team is rightly on the cusp of making history. We will do everything we can to best them- and any real Dublin fan wouldn't have it any other way, would they?!"
Yeah, Dubs are favorites but only slight favorites for me. I probably won't get a ticket for the final despite traveling up to any game I can ( I live in Kilkenny now )it's great to see these two meet again in the big one. I'd be surprised if it's not another one score affair.
The whinging is just par for the course on these types of forums so I generally don't get too bothered by the silly stuff these heads go on about.
Anyway, here's hoping for a good game and a day to remember. Up the Dubs.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2004 - 12/08/2019 21:11:05    2224901

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Replying To Kerrymanlegend:  "Bitter Mayo fan.. what's new? Stay on your lane and try win an all ireland . Kerry will Win several all Ireland's very soon including 3 weeks time while Mayo keep having the best fans lol"
All I hear guys like you describing Tyrone as an average team. Yet you narrowly beat them and now you are going to beat Dublin in 3 weeks time?

Listen you can try all the cynical stuff you want on them but you wont get within 8 points.

This is an average Kerry team that has already over achieved and you are in for a serious serious hammering in the final.

lambofgod (Mayo) - Posts: 87 - 12/08/2019 21:42:21    2224914

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Replying To Kerrymanlegend:  "Bitter Mayo fan.. what's new? Stay on your lane and try win an all ireland . Kerry will Win several all Ireland's very soon including 3 weeks time while Mayo keep having the best fans lol"
It's actually refreshing to read somebody confident about their county's chances rather than have to sift through all the cute hoorism and yerra .

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1037 - 12/08/2019 21:59:05    2224925

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Replying To westkerry:  "Facts are facts, this is Kerrys youngest team since 1975.
We have built a new team in 2 years.
I count only 8 lads on the panel from the 2015 final.
I'm actually relaxed about this as this really is a free shot.
Kerry are years behind Dublin in development.
15,16 hurt more because it was the end of great servants for Kerry and and end of an era.
This is the beginning of a journey."
The transition is over at long last so?

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3619 - 12/08/2019 22:03:17    2224926

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Sure Eamon got you to finals through better teams than Tyrone only to be lambasted

If it wasn't for Dublin in 15,16

He could have quite reasonably won 3 in a row

Kerry were good enough to reach finals not so long ago but it was how they were judged after them that was the crux.

Seemingly just getting to one now is good enough?

Poor aul Eamon was measured with a different ruler and I wouldn't rule out Keane coming in for some aftermath if things don't work out."
Peter Keane only took over our team last November jim so he could only get us to 1 allireland final , but actually this is Pete's 4th time getting Kerry teams to an allireland final in 4 years as he got our minors to the last 3 finals as well.

So petes also had box office seats to get a good look at Dublin in finals over the last 3 years hopefully he'll have picked up a few bit that our boys can use or work on.

Eamon had his chance and he got us one against the head but he was very conservative, and we don't do conservative in the kingdom.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9341 - 12/08/2019 22:03:36    2224928

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Replying To Dubh_linn:  "Yeah, Dubs are favorites but only slight favorites for me. I probably won't get a ticket for the final despite traveling up to any game I can ( I live in Kilkenny now )it's great to see these two meet again in the big one. I'd be surprised if it's not another one score affair.
The whinging is just par for the course on these types of forums so I generally don't get too bothered by the silly stuff these heads go on about.
Anyway, here's hoping for a good game and a day to remember. Up the Dubs."
I read an article on RTE this evening where the journalist wrote that Dublin's dominance is a problem for the GAA, while they are not commenting on it publicly. It's a runaway train. Kerry have a mammoth task ahead of them. That's the reality. Congrats on making the final.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 6173 - 12/08/2019 22:06:54    2224930

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I thought investment made no difference because money doesn't kick the ball over the bar?"
I meant a strategic human investment as opposed to financial resources, sure don't we know the management team are amateurs and aren't paid for their work beyond expenses.

Kerry haven't broken any rules, which is why I said fair play to them, it's worked, they are perfectly entitled to pull together the best management team together they possibly can.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2658 - 12/08/2019 22:17:01    2224937

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I read an article on RTE this evening where the journalist wrote that Dublin's dominance is a problem for the GAA, while they are not commenting on it publicly. It's a runaway train. Kerry have a mammoth task ahead of them. That's the reality. Congrats on making the final."
I didn't see that but if there looking at us as a problem we could be in for a rough time in the final.
I'd say it's going to be very hard to get the win despite all the talk of being favorites. Touch and go and anybody's game is how I see it anyway.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2004 - 12/08/2019 22:40:22    2224943

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Replying To galwayford:  "I hope Kerry don't bring their fouling, cynical, game to the final. And hope Maurice Deegan is not the Ref."
2014 final definitely stands out in the memory in that regard. Was Deegan the referee that day too or was it Eddie Kinsella?

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2415 - 12/08/2019 23:01:34    2224949

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Replying To latouche25:  "This is the opponent Dublin have been hoping for from the start. Winning 5 in a row and beating Kerry in the final. Become the greatest team ever. Regards of what county you support they are a joy to watch."
They are a brilliant team to watch. Fenton alone is worth the admission fee.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2415 - 12/08/2019 23:05:14    2224954

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Replying To avonali:  "Perhaps Kerry could repeat the feats of the 1955 team. My Dad was from Kerry and he kept all the newspapers from the following Monday. Apparently Dublin were favourites but a young Kerry team defeated them. Guys like Kevin Heffernan and Snitchy Ferguson were playing for the Dubs back then.
RTE didn't start filming All-Irelands until the 1960s but there is some wonderful footage on youtube of this match."
Even with these wins from the past (1955 and Micko's young team) it is almost impossible to see Dublin lose. They just seem so focused and measured. Gavin, Sherlock etc only one won All Ireland when Dublin had a very strong team and this seems to drive them. They also seem to be very good at drumming it into this team.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2415 - 12/08/2019 23:18:18    2224960

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Replying To TheUsername:  "I meant a strategic human investment as opposed to financial resources, sure don't we know the management team are amateurs and aren't paid for their work beyond expenses.

Kerry haven't broken any rules, which is why I said fair play to them, it's worked, they are perfectly entitled to pull together the best management team together they possibly can."
I was only messing Username, couldn't resist.

You are of course correct. Kerry have pulled out all the stops and have at long last realised that you cannot compete without putting in the same resources as the other top teams, I'm talking about the conditioning, coaching etc. We now have a FT head of athletic development for example, I know Dublin have had Bryan Cullen in this role for years.

I saw it as a 2-3 year project for Keane and while I expected us to be a good bit better than 2018 I am pleasantly surprised to be in the final. I'd like to think we can make a good game of it and possibly even win if enough things fall our way. We'd need probably three goals and to keep Dublin to one.

On the Fitzmaurice thing I was one of Éamons biggest defenders on here for years but in the end I think he had to go. We malfunctioned in too many big games and fell behind the others in terms of conditioning after Cian O'Neill left, although I'm not exactly sure whose fault that was. That book is closed now and we look forward.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1498 - 13/08/2019 00:39:24    2224977

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Replying To lambofgod:  "All I hear guys like you describing Tyrone as an average team. Yet you narrowly beat them and now you are going to beat Dublin in 3 weeks time?

Listen you can try all the cynical stuff you want on them but you wont get within 8 points.

This is an average Kerry team that has already over achieved and you are in for a serious serious hammering in the final."
I can't remember any 1 saying Tyrone was average, the Sunday game and journalists said they haven't beaten Kerry dubs or Mayo in 10 years.

Also I can gaurentee you the Dubs won't hammer us , they may well beat us but it won't be by 8 point or anything near it.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9341 - 13/08/2019 07:50:38    2224996

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Replying To legendzxix:  "I read an article on RTE this evening where the journalist wrote that Dublin's dominance is a problem for the GAA, while they are not commenting on it publicly. It's a runaway train. Kerry have a mammoth task ahead of them. That's the reality. Congrats on making the final."
And even bigger congrats to yourselves!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 649 - 13/08/2019 08:15:15    2224999

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9300 at Kerry Meath match, 5000 at Kerry Clare game. Not sure what percentage of crowd Kerry had either day. Badly supported at Donegal game too. Nearly hard to see final selling out.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 175 - 13/08/2019 09:09:41    2225013

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Replying To DUBJOHN:  "And even bigger congrats to yourselves!"
Yeah I forgot to congratulate you Leg End : Congrats on Kerry PLC making it to the final,

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1037 - 13/08/2019 10:16:42    2225036

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "I was only messing Username, couldn't resist.

You are of course correct. Kerry have pulled out all the stops and have at long last realised that you cannot compete without putting in the same resources as the other top teams, I'm talking about the conditioning, coaching etc. We now have a FT head of athletic development for example, I know Dublin have had Bryan Cullen in this role for years.

I saw it as a 2-3 year project for Keane and while I expected us to be a good bit better than 2018 I am pleasantly surprised to be in the final. I'd like to think we can make a good game of it and possibly even win if enough things fall our way. We'd need probably three goals and to keep Dublin to one.

On the Fitzmaurice thing I was one of Éamons biggest defenders on here for years but in the end I think he had to go. We malfunctioned in too many big games and fell behind the others in terms of conditioning after Cian O'Neill left, although I'm not exactly sure whose fault that was. That book is closed now and we look forward."
You would have to say coming out of the right side of games against Tyrone and Mayo there has been a marked improvement in Kerry intensity, physicality and S&C, you suspect they are games they would have lost maybe 12 months ago, on the physical/intensity stakes and maybe tactically.

Its an impressive line up Kerry have at management level, certainly they have answered anything thrown at them bar the league final so far. Id be frank and say im surprised Kerry are in the final to be honest, but i was clearly wrong on that count and hold my hands up, so fair play. A couple of questions remain to my mind and i hope this doesnt come across as criticism, but looking at it objectively, i think Kerry need to be looking at producing 70 min performances, in the games i have saw they look one team one half and different one the other, whether good or bad. maybe that is a part of developing and gelling the team, but its something i have noticed. But largely you have to pleased with the job or work of the management team.

I rated Fitzmaurice myself, i was happy to see him go as i always felt he was a bit of a bit of a danger myself, to my mind there were two managers who got the better of us in meaningful games during this era, one was McGuisness in 14 and the other was Fitzmaurice in the league final in 17, boith managers won those games with a creative tactic. I would say he became a bit obsessed with us though and took his eye of the ball, of the game in front of him and was looking at playing us to much. Its notable that Kean is doing a Gavin and certainly controlling the narrative on the next game being the most important.

Personally i think this will be a tight game, Kerry have fire power and huge motivation. But Dublin often try to control finals and take minimum risks or play as openly as they can and put the opposition under pressure to go on the front foot. So i think it could be over all a bit stilted. I wouldn't be going into this hubris what so ever,, the game very much in the melting pot.

Dont think a Kerry team will ever approach an ALL Ireland final against Dublin, under a sure we will give it a lash mentality.

Hopefully we keep our steely focus im sure we will.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2658 - 13/08/2019 13:21:12    2225114

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I'd start Dermo for the laugh

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19524 - 13/08/2019 14:08:52    2225131

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I see the cuteness in Kerry is alive and well :) The last thing Kerry need is a game played at a hundred miles an hour. Kerry tactics will be break up attacks, slow the game down to get their breath back, hit on the counter and have time to reset their lines.

Kerry don't want or need a ref who's main skill is letting a game flow from end to end only blowing up for the most obvious 100% frees and not getting involved in blowing for silly 50 50 calls.

Yes we know the ref Kerry really don't want appointed so I wasn't surprised to see Fitzmaurice mentioning Gough living and working in Dublin. Kerry would love a fussy referee who will help ensure breaks in play - there is never a bad game when Gough is in charge and all his games tend to be very quick. Cuteness is truly alive down in the Kingdom.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 449 - 13/08/2019 14:24:20    2225138

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