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Replying To TheHermit:  "Yerra we'll turn up anyway and give it a lash.

It's been a privilege this year to follow this exciting young side and see the promise of golden days ahead with the likes of Clifford and Seanie O leading our line for the next decade.

What people outside Kerry might not appreciate it that we've effectively created a new team within two years.
How many of those that graced Croke Park yesterday were on the pitch for the 2017 drawn semi against Mayo?
Here's you answer: 6, that's some turnover.

Keane and Tommy coming in and getting these lads to the final in their first year on the sideline is a massive, massive achievement.

Whatever comes in 3 weeks, they've done Kerry proud.

And sure there's been quiet a few young Kerry teams who have done special things on the biggest day over the years :)"
Exactly the hermit, what Peter and his backroom team have done in 9-10 months is phenomenal, they've got us to top the league table and to the league final , to win the Munster final also to top our super 8s group and now got us into an allireland final.

Come what may on September 1st I'm bursting with pride for this management and football team.

An Riocht Abu.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 9341 - 12/08/2019 18:56:08    2224837

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Replying To KY4SAM2015:  "Kerry 9/2 to beat Dublin. I wonder have we ever seen such underdogs in any match let alone a final? Odds are accurate though you would have to say giving the form of the Dublin team."
I think Donegal were 10/1 in 2014 semi final.

CaogaCuig (Dublin) - Posts: 50 - 12/08/2019 19:07:19    2224840

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Its a truly wonderful achievement by Kerry, i think its important that everyone acknowledges that as the lads who watch them intimately are explaining, they could be a special group of players and management.

They are right to really fancy their chances. Cork, Mayo, Meath, Tyrone and almost Donegal fell on the kingdom sword, thats pretty much the whole of Div 1.

Lads are right, Kerry are back and the travel with expectation instead of hope.

Ultimate focus required in the land of those raised on songs and stories.

Activate Great White Shark Mode.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2658 - 12/08/2019 19:17:34    2224844

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Replying To lambofgod:  "It's just the truth.

I used to like Kerry but they have turned into something else this decade and I cant support that sort behaviour."
You don't like us cos we have hammered Mayo in several all Ireland's and ye are still waiting lol

Kerrymanlegend (Kerry) - Posts: 23 - 12/08/2019 19:29:07    2224849

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Replying To KingdomBoy1:  "Exactly the hermit, what Peter and his backroom team have done in 9-10 months is phenomenal, they've got us to top the league table and to the league final , to win the Munster final also to top our super 8s group and now got us into an allireland final.

Come what may on September 1st I'm bursting with pride for this management and football team.

An Riocht Abu."
Sure Eamon got you to finals through better teams than Tyrone only to be lambasted

If it wasn't for Dublin in 15,16

He could have quite reasonably won 3 in a row

Kerry were good enough to reach finals not so long ago but it was how they were judged after them that was the crux.

Seemingly just getting to one now is good enough?

Poor aul Eamon was measured with a different ruler and I wouldn't rule out Keane coming in for some aftermath if things don't work out.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19524 - 12/08/2019 19:30:24    2224850

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Replying To lambofgod:  "At the beginning of this year I would have wanted anyone to beat Dublin just to stop the drive for 5.

But this current Kerry team are very hard to like and yesterday just reinforced my view of that.

Cynical exploits, off the ball fouling, slowing the game down, dragging men down, complaining constantly to the referee.

Also I don't think they are that good and honestly I can see Dublin beating them by as much as they want."
Bitter Mayo fan.. what's new? Stay on your lane and try win an all ireland . Kerry will Win several all Ireland's very soon including 3 weeks time while Mayo keep having the best fans lol

Kerrymanlegend (Kerry) - Posts: 23 - 12/08/2019 19:32:26    2224852

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Replying To plike:  "I expect Dublin to come on in their usual fashion. They are favourites for a reason. They deserve respect. They already have it.

As for us, we need to be better. It's that simple. Stronger and more disciplined at the back. More assertive in the middle. Willing to attack in waves and with confidence. If they do that then we'll have a game to remember.

While I know it is virtually a religion for some on here to bad mouth the opposition and to belly ache until the cows come home, I'm not into that, thanks for asking. Our team has some future ahead of them. This Dublin team is rightly on the cusp of making history. We will do everything we can to best them- and any real Dublin fan wouldn't have it any other way, would they?!"
Agree 100%.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1037 - 12/08/2019 19:36:58    2224853

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Replying To CaogaCuig:  "I think Donegal were 10/1 in 2014 semi final."
Crazy odds when you think about the players they had at that stage. Maybe Donegal were not as impressive in the games prior to the Dublin game but hard to believe why they were such big outsiders.

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 865 - 12/08/2019 19:39:02    2224855

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Replying To Kerrymanlegend:  "Bitter Mayo fan.. what's new? Stay on your lane and try win an all ireland . Kerry will Win several all Ireland's very soon including 3 weeks time while Mayo keep having the best fans lol"
#maskslip

Get with the programme fella .. tut tut

"Ah sure now we're just a young team"

Blah blah blah

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19524 - 12/08/2019 19:53:30    2224865

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Sure Eamon got you to finals through better teams than Tyrone only to be lambasted

If it wasn't for Dublin in 15,16

He could have quite reasonably won 3 in a row

Kerry were good enough to reach finals not so long ago but it was how they were judged after them that was the crux.

Seemingly just getting to one now is good enough?

Poor aul Eamon was measured with a different ruler and I wouldn't rule out Keane coming in for some aftermath if things don't work out."
I think Paidi O'Se had a name for those fans alright.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 3822 - 12/08/2019 20:09:19    2224871

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Sure Eamon got you to finals through better teams than Tyrone only to be lambasted

If it wasn't for Dublin in 15,16

He could have quite reasonably won 3 in a row

Kerry were good enough to reach finals not so long ago but it was how they were judged after them that was the crux.

Seemingly just getting to one now is good enough?

Poor aul Eamon was measured with a different ruler and I wouldn't rule out Keane coming in for some aftermath if things don't work out."
Make no mistake about it, Kerry went out in the summer and we're determined to scour the county and the country and put a team and one unit in place to try and match Jim Gavin.

They have Donie Buckley, Maurice Fitzgerald, James Foley and Tommy Griffin on the management team, before you look at an extensive back room team of the par S&C, nutrition, fitness, stats etc.

They've made a serious investment to get close to Jim.

I'm not sure there is one man pulling the strings at Kerry, I think it's a bit of a team effort.

You have to say fair play, it's really worked, two national title finals in five months.

The smoke is there for all to see.

We've been well warned.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 2658 - 12/08/2019 20:09:36    2224872

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Replying To plike:  "I expect Dublin to come on in their usual fashion. They are favourites for a reason. They deserve respect. They already have it.

As for us, we need to be better. It's that simple. Stronger and more disciplined at the back. More assertive in the middle. Willing to attack in waves and with confidence. If they do that then we'll have a game to remember.

While I know it is virtually a religion for some on here to bad mouth the opposition and to belly ache until the cows come home, I'm not into that, thanks for asking. Our team has some future ahead of them. This Dublin team is rightly on the cusp of making history. We will do everything we can to best them- and any real Dublin fan wouldn't have it any other way, would they?!"
Was just thinking that, we couldn't script it better, is it to be glory or heartbreak? The countdown begins!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 7613 - 12/08/2019 20:11:16    2224873

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Dublin will be hot favorites to win but I'm expecting a good contest. Kerry have managed to run Dublin close despite losing all four meets this decade. Dublin's winning margin was one point in 2011, two points in 2016, three points in 2015 and injury time goals by McMeniman and O'Gara stretched it to seven in 2013. Kerry will bring a different game plan and I wouldn't expect them to collapse to any 12 minute blitz as they have Moran/ Barry/Walsh to compete for possession and good forwards to notch scores and disrupt the blue wave momentum.
The kingdom have never lost a final ending in "9"...winning in 1909, '29, '39, '59, '69, '79 and 2009. Then again Brian Fenton has never lost a championship match . . . . something has got to give . Dublin to win five in a row but not as comfortable as many expect. Looking forward to a great final between the only unbeaten teams in this year's championship.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 335 - 12/08/2019 20:20:49    2224877

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Kerry stop the goals going in they have every chance of winning. This will likely need some lads to sacrifice themselves to black/yellow cards etc to stop goals going in

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 290 - 12/08/2019 20:22:09    2224879

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Replying To centerfield:  "Kerry stop the goals going in they have every chance of winning. This will likely need some lads to sacrifice themselves to black/yellow cards etc to stop goals going in"
With that logic Yellows soon turn to red and mean you can't step out of line again = space for Dublin

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19524 - 12/08/2019 20:31:57    2224885

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Make no mistake about it, Kerry went out in the summer and we're determined to scour the county and the country and put a team and one unit in place to try and match Jim Gavin.

They have Donie Buckley, Maurice Fitzgerald, James Foley and Tommy Griffin on the management team, before you look at an extensive back room team of the par S&C, nutrition, fitness, stats etc.

They've made a serious investment to get close to Jim.

I'm not sure there is one man pulling the strings at Kerry, I think it's a bit of a team effort.

You have to say fair play, it's really worked, two national title finals in five months.

The smoke is there for all to see.

We've been well warned."
"Ahh but sure tis only a team of boys with snotty noses and dirty faces held together with fairy dust"

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 19524 - 12/08/2019 20:34:20    2224886

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Replying To plike:  "I expect Dublin to come on in their usual fashion. They are favourites for a reason. They deserve respect. They already have it.

As for us, we need to be better. It's that simple. Stronger and more disciplined at the back. More assertive in the middle. Willing to attack in waves and with confidence. If they do that then we'll have a game to remember.

While I know it is virtually a religion for some on here to bad mouth the opposition and to belly ache until the cows come home, I'm not into that, thanks for asking. Our team has some future ahead of them. This Dublin team is rightly on the cusp of making history. We will do everything we can to best them- and any real Dublin fan wouldn't have it any other way, would they?!"
Spot on chief. I'm actually glad it's kerry in the final. It's set up for a humdinger and although I won't be able to make the final as I'm living down the country and will be working on the day it'll be a great occasion and may the best team win.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 915 - 12/08/2019 20:37:26    2224887

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Replying To TheUsername:  "Make no mistake about it, Kerry went out in the summer and we're determined to scour the county and the country and put a team and one unit in place to try and match Jim Gavin.

They have Donie Buckley, Maurice Fitzgerald, James Foley and Tommy Griffin on the management team, before you look at an extensive back room team of the par S&C, nutrition, fitness, stats etc.

They've made a serious investment to get close to Jim.

I'm not sure there is one man pulling the strings at Kerry, I think it's a bit of a team effort.

You have to say fair play, it's really worked, two national title finals in five months.

The smoke is there for all to see.

We've been well warned."
I thought investment made no difference because money doesn't kick the ball over the bar?

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1498 - 12/08/2019 20:57:01    2224893

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Replying To jimbodub:  "With that logic Yellows soon turn to red and mean you can't step out of line again = space for Dublin"
then you use your subs bench before you get reds

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 290 - 12/08/2019 20:58:52    2224894

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Facts are facts, this is Kerrys youngest team since 1975.
We have built a new team in 2 years.
I count only 8 lads on the panel from the 2015 final.
I'm actually relaxed about this as this really is a free shot.
Kerry are years behind Dublin in development.
15,16 hurt more because it was the end of great servants for Kerry and and end of an era.
This is the beginning of a journey.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1202 - 12/08/2019 21:06:47    2224898

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