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Replying To Htaem:  "Would have hit the post, no score, move on.

Do you think the peno should have been retaken? Cluxton was off his line."
Sorry didn't answer your question. Yes it should Cluxton was 4' off his line. Should have been an easy call.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 01/09/2019 18:12:07    2231366

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "...the 2016 and 2017 finals were well ahead of today...long kick passing?...all we witnessed was aimless kicking when it did happen...as i say lots of cynical fouling, 14 men behind the ball were the order of the day"
Bitterness is not a good look! Well done to Kerry and Dublin; thankfully people who want to acknowledge football will have seen today's match for what it was :)

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 01/09/2019 18:14:31    2231368

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Replying To cluichethar:  "Don't think it was a penalty but the 1 not given in the 2nd half I think it was O'Shea was 1. Just saying about HawkEye that normally when the ball is tracking inside the post it's a point, just an observation. I don't know the ins & outs of it, was just observation."
I must say I disagree, I think it was a penatly in the first half and I thought the one in the 2nd was just outside but I'd like to see it again to be sure.

Ah look I agree the technology isn't perfect, but I suppose it's better than leaving umpires guessing, anyway it's done now so we can just look forward to the next day.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/09/2019 18:17:42    2231370

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Replying To cluichethar:  "I would love Mayo to get the rub of the green that Kerry got today. I guess the Gold hoop carry's more fortune than the Red. Gough terrible."
And here is the reason why even though they are the greatest team never to win all ire, many people don't feel much empathy for them.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/09/2019 18:18:13    2231371

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Replying To Breezy:  "This aged well"
Oh yes I was wrong, my apologies.

All things considered I think Kerry blew it, had the extra man and the lead in added time and still couldn't get the job done.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 01/09/2019 18:20:22    2231372

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Soft penalty, inconsistent on the booking of backs on a yellow. Cooper's second didn't look a yellow."
Penalty by the rules was a penalty, red card was a red card, yellow and ticked previously for dragging, he dragged him down. The rules state it's a yellow, therefore bot decisions correct, actually thought it was one of the best reffed finals I have ever seen. He missed a few things but not many. He can be very proud tonight of his performance, and he certainly put to bed the bs that was thrown at him from a bitter ex manager

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 01/09/2019 18:23:06    2231377

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Replying To Htaem:  "I must say I disagree, I think it was a penatly in the first half and I thought the one in the 2nd was just outside but I'd like to see it again to be sure.

Ah look I agree the technology isn't perfect, but I suppose it's better than leaving umpires guessing, anyway it's done now so we can just look forward to the next day."
I agree with you 100% on HawkEye it's a vast improvement. My point on it was It was something I hadn't seen before. I sure as hell didnt know whether it was inside or out. It's the technology in use so it has to be trusted on close calls. Still don't know why it isn't used for goals.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 01/09/2019 18:29:10    2231383

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Replying To 32_4_1:  "Eh.....Jack Barry? Serious player"
Jack Barry....a very average player. Great in the soft ground in the national league when players aren't going full tilt but doesn't have the engine to stick with a dynamic midfielder. Look....Dublin were 5 points up until they went down a man. This allowed Kerry to flood their defence not allowing the Dublin inside line the room to do what they usually do. Also, Kerry were having fierce difficulty retaining their own sickout until the sending off. Impossible for Dublin to press the kickout after that. Totally changed the dynamic of the game. I can't see anything but a 10 point win for Dublin replay. Mannion, McCarthy, Fenton, O' Callaghan have got a bad game out of their system and will be chomping at the bit to make amends the next day.

JohnnyFox19 (Galway) - Posts: 8 - 01/09/2019 18:31:20    2231386

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Alot of people saying Kerry left it behind then, and will be turned over more comfortably the next day. They did leave it behind them, but I think they'll push on and win. Alot is also being made of the 14 v 15 men, many teams win with 14. Kerry were creating more chances than Dublin before the red, just weren't converting. Once their confidence was up, they started to convert. They know what it's like to come up against Dublin now and that match will bring on alot of their young players hugely. They will go into the next game with more genuine belief and confidence, and I reckon will be far more clinical now that they know what they're up against, the nerves they put themselves under will be gone.

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 01/09/2019 18:35:42    2231390

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Replying To royaldunne:  "And here is the reason why even though they are the greatest team never to win all ire, many people don't feel much empathy for them."
Don't want your empathy or anyone else's. Kerry got 70% of the calls today. You obviously see it differently so. Have a nice day.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 01/09/2019 18:36:16    2231391

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Replying To cluichethar:  "The point for Dublin that was ruled out by HawkEye was the 1st time I've seen the ball shown inside the post and ruled wide. It's technology & I haven't much faith in it."
There is a lot of conspiracy theories about Hawkeye but that point today made my mind up on it, clearly a score.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 01/09/2019 18:37:38    2231393

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Replying To JohnnyFox19:  "Jack Barry....a very average player. Great in the soft ground in the national league when players aren't going full tilt but doesn't have the engine to stick with a dynamic midfielder. Look....Dublin were 5 points up until they went down a man. This allowed Kerry to flood their defence not allowing the Dublin inside line the room to do what they usually do. Also, Kerry were having fierce difficulty retaining their own sickout until the sending off. Impossible for Dublin to press the kickout after that. Totally changed the dynamic of the game. I can't see anything but a 10 point win for Dublin replay. Mannion, McCarthy, Fenton, O' Callaghan have got a bad game out of their system and will be chomping at the bit to make amends the next day."
It wasn't Jack Barry's fault the forwards weren't converting their chances. Only good in the national league? He was pulling balls down from the sky all day, throwing himself about and causing havoc for Dublin's midfield. If you think he's average, you're talking rubbish quite frankly. He's a top player

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 01/09/2019 18:39:04    2231394

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Replying To moc.dna:  "There is a lot of conspiracy theories about Hawkeye but that point today made my mind up on it, clearly a score."
It looked like a score to me too. The kerry keeper seemed very confident it was wide even before Hawkeye but yes on the hawkeye replay it was clearly inside the posts

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 01/09/2019 18:41:04    2231395

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Q for the dubs on here ? Surely of ye win the 5 in a row this will be a much more satisfying way to win it . To be actually challenged as opposed to the walk in the park games you have all the time

As I neutral I loved that game I was on the edge of my seat for the majority of the second half

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 01/09/2019 18:44:40    2231397

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A very enjoyable game which, I have to say, was also well refereed. Yes David Gough got a couple of things wrong but then so did the players, they are all only human after all.

Really looking forward to the replay which I would have Dublin as favourites for since there is little chance of the replayed game being played in Killarney!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 01/09/2019 18:45:04    2231398

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Penalty by the rules was a penalty, red card was a red card, yellow and ticked previously for dragging, he dragged him down. The rules state it's a yellow, therefore bot decisions correct, actually thought it was one of the best reffed finals I have ever seen. He missed a few things but not many. He can be very proud tonight of his performance, and he certainly put to bed the bs that was thrown at him from a bitter ex manager"
Cooper's second yellow wasn't a foul. I don't think O'Sullivan or Cooper should have been sent off. But on how he was officiating the game for consistency then by his own interpretation O'Sullivan should have walked. All the big refereeing decisions were made against Dublin.

The other 95% of the time he did a good job but those big calls nearly cost Dublin today.

If Maurice Deegan gets the replay then Kerry are deciding who gets to referee.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 01/09/2019 18:45:09    2231399

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "I wouldn't accept them either. €90 for a foregone conclusion no chance. Even if Meath were there instead of Kerry."
Right as usual. What a game. What an atmosphere. This Dublin team doesn't know when to give up. Can't wait for round 2.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 01/09/2019 18:46:03    2231400

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Super game. Pity Kerry left 2-4 easy behind them in first half. But they were playing against 14 so Dublin deserve huge credit. I thought the ref was good, wasn't biased either way, can't get everything right. Cooper deserved to go. Brolly and Whelan were hilarious.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 7885 - 01/09/2019 18:47:31    2231401

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Replying To mayotyroneman:  "Will then in for the first 20 mins. I'd imagine by then the AIG corporates will have bagged at least two goals. It won't be a "great game". If will be a boring one way shoot in. Spare us the tripe about Dublin and kerry are the only two counties that can serve up an all Ireland final for the ages. It will be a one sided bore fest."
Great prediction. Spare us your Mystic Meg act in future please. Let those who know something about football do the analysis.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 01/09/2019 18:48:09    2231402

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Incredibly childish forum this has become
Firstly. It was national insanity for Kerry to be written off after all their history and tradition
I expected people to be lauding a wonderful final
Instead it's the same bickering and anti Kerry negativity

Nobody thought Kerry had a prayer
If Mayo with no forwards can repeat a replay performance Kerry certainly can

All I'll say is that it what football today should be all about
Exhibition of skills and passion

Thank God the blanket knitted in Tyrone and Donegal has holes in it now

Brolly was an embarrassment. He joins the latest bandwagon every time there's a period of dominance

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ThyKingdomComeThyWillBeDone (Kerry) - Posts: 26 - 01/09/2019 18:51:52    2231406

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