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Replying To Dubh_linn: "Wonder where all those T-shirts ended up . I'd say they got shipped out to Mongolia or somewhere.:-p)" The lad that had them sold the lot in Offaly the following day. He spent all Sunday evening/night printing RIP on the back. I remember an interview where he said he sold the lot a the homecoming where he felt that he wouldn't have sold the lot in Kerry.
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Replying To avonali: "Watched a replay of that match the other night. The thing that struck me was the poor quality of the passing The game has changed so much and there is now much higher premium on possession and recycling. The amount of Hail Mary kicks out of defence was actually strange to watch again after all these years.
Still reckon Matt Connor was an incredibly talented player. John Egan was imperious. He'ss knocked to the ground, retains possession and gets straight back up and shoots a great point. He was class." The late John Egan was a very good corner forward on that Kerry team, I would say that he was underrated, but was an essential part of that team. His son John Egan is a professional soccer player in England, in the championship, someone will confirm this.
I thought the 1982 final was one of the better finals, it was a different football era then, and looking back almost 40 years later in the current game , the game is bound to look different.
They trained just as hard, Offaly climbed a hill in Rhode , as part of their preparations, not a favourite with the panel!. There was less hype then.
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Replying To slayer: "Unless you saw it live it may be difficult to take in the magnitude of this game.
Ireland was a country still emerging from the Hunger Strikes in 1981 which had for a long time been the main topic of conversation. GAA was central to the Irish psyche. Offaly had come from nowhere to win the Leinster Hurling title in 1980, then the All-Ireland in 1981. The Offaly footballers had contested the 1980 semi final v Kerry in a classic and then lost the final to them in 1981. Kerry had ruled football with an Iron Fist.
Ireland was very different back then. GAA was an integral part of everyone's life. All week the talk was about the game. There was not the same media coverage as there is now so interviews with Management or Players were golden. Both sides changed their shirts for the final, as I think they did in 1981 also. The Offaly shirt was lovely, mainly white with the green & gold also thrown in with a bit of class.
The game itself was eventful but the feeling was Offaly were never out of it, as Kerry put away other teams in finals. The penalty save was pivotal, Furlong was a hero. But a 'never say die' attitude which was a key characteristic of Offaly teams in that era made them keep going at Kerry. It wasn't a great surprise that they had a go at winning the final, but it was a surprise that they held Kerry off after getting ahead. There didn't seem to be any panic, they believed that the title was theirs. Then again in the previous four finals Kerry had a health lead in the latter stages of the game. Perhaps they felt jitters at only being two up as the clock ticked towards winning time.
The goal itself is one of the most magical memories ever in GAA. As a hurling man, I even say perhaps 'The' single greatest GAA memory there is. Does any other memory make people remember where they were or who they were with when it happened? It is like watching that TV program 'Cold Case' where they flick between present day & the era in question. Certainly, that moment is one that stands out from childhood. Darby's dance, a mini pitch invasion, the legendary Micheal O'Hehir's commentary - iconic.
In 1997 Offaly won the Leinster Football title with a fine win over Meath. Kerry had won Munster. They looked on course to meet in the All-Ireland final but Mayo stepped in to defeat Offaly. It would have been nice to see that rematch fifteen years on and with Roy Malone & Vinny Claffey they would have had a right cut off Kerry. The Offaly team from 1982 didn't kick on as Dublin emerged with a fine team from 83-85 and then Meath ruled Leinster from 86-91 89 (apart).
We learned a lot about GAA from that 1982 match. Never giving in, self belief, the power of a great Manager (which I believe Eugene was). But in the years after there was also a lesson about class and tradition. Kerry lost the 1983 Munster Final to Tadhg Murphy's late Cork goal, but then won the finals from 84-86, beating a very good Dublin team as well as sides like Meath & Tyrone also along the way. In nine years of championship they won seven titles and lost the other years to two late goals. Quite simply a magnificent team.
But everyone remembers Seamus Darby, Offaly and from the other messages, that nudge/push :-)
Offaly v Kerry 1982 - Great memories." Great post. Captures the mood and the atmosphere of the time very well.
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Replying To avonali: "Great post. Captures the mood and the atmosphere of the time very well." That must be the most famous goal in GAA history.
No other candidate comes close.
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Replying To thelongridge: "The late John Egan was a very good corner forward on that Kerry team, I would say that he was underrated, but was an essential part of that team. His son John Egan is a professional soccer player in England, in the championship, someone will confirm this.
I thought the 1982 final was one of the better finals, it was a different football era then, and looking back almost 40 years later in the current game , the game is bound to look different.
They trained just as hard, Offaly climbed a hill in Rhode , as part of their preparations, not a favourite with the panel!. There was less hype then." Yeah his Son as at Sheffield Utd
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I recall hearing Eugene McGee saying tongue in cheek on the 1pm radio news that Offaly contrary to media reports would turn up and fulfill the fixture. Under his guidance Offaly progressed once stage further every year from losing the Leinster quarter final to Wexford in 1977 to winning the1982 All Ireland title. He joked years later that this was all part of a master plan.
Offaly led 0.10 - 0.9 at half time with some fine point scoring by both sides in drier conditions during the first half.
Brendan Lowry kicked three smart points at corner forward and all of the Offaly half back line came forward to register a point each. Some memories include the work rate of Jack O Shea and Richie Connor, pace of Tom Spillane, intelligence of Johnny Mooney in possession and Michael O'Hehir kept wondering would there be a goal in the game. Kerry threatened to pull away in the second half but Offaly kept in touch.
RIP Eugene McGee, Liam O Connor, Paidi O Se, Tim Kennelly and John Egan.
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Replying To lionofludesch: "That must be the most famous goal in GAA history.
No other candidate comes close." Mikey Sheey's chip??
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 10/08/2019 15:15:18
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Replying To TheHermit: "Mikey Sheey's chip??" 1978 Final ?
Yeah - that was a good one too.
lionofludesch (Down) - Posts: 475 - 12/08/2019 16:44:53
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Replying To TheHermit: "Mikey Sheey's chip??" I can remember as a boy watching it from the Hoganstand. It was an incredible piece of quick thinking. But why did Devlin call for the free? I don't doubt something happened but what exactly did Cullen do???
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Replying To TheHermit: "Mikey Sheey's chip??" Mugsy against the Dubs in 2005 is probably up there too.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 12/08/2019 17:15:37
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Replying To avonali: "I can remember as a boy watching it from the Hoganstand. It was an incredible piece of quick thinking. But why did Devlin call for the free? I don't doubt something happened but what exactly did Cullen do???" I think it was Seamus Aldridge and I think he thought that Paddy clipped Ger Power after he hand passed away, which he didn't. Very harsh free but Dublin hammered that day, lost their composure after conceding that one.
Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 12/08/2019 17:39:51
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Always liked Darran's one in the 2011 Q-final against Limerick too.
Stephen's goal yesterday wasn't too shabby either!
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Replying To TheHermit: "Always liked Darran's one in the 2011 Q-final against Limerick too.
Stephen's goal yesterday wasn't too shabby either!" That was some run up the pitch. Don't know how he had the energy to take the goal as well as he did.
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Replying To Joxer: "I think it was Seamus Aldridge and I think he thought that Paddy clipped Ger Power after he hand passed away, which he didn't. Very harsh free but Dublin hammered that day, lost their composure after conceding that one." ahh yes it was Aldridge. I've always pondered how that All-Ireland would have gone if it weren't for that goal. Dubs fell to pieces after it.
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Replying To avonali: "ahh yes it was Aldridge. I've always pondered how that All-Ireland would have gone if it weren't for that goal. Dubs fell to pieces after it." I think we were 5 or 6 points up at that juncture believe it or not. But the Sheehy lob sparked them into action and we couldn't handle Liston after that.
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There was an interesting story, I think it was in the Dublin v Kerry book from a few years back about Paddy Cullen and Mickey doing a piece for RTE about that goal and ref was invited in as well. Apparently he wouldn't even talk to Cullen and just maintained when the camera's rolled that the decision was absolutely correct. Cullen was still really angry about it and says he never forgave him for not taking the chance to acknowledge that he made a wrong call.
TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 12/08/2019 18:43:00
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Replying To TheHermit: "Always liked Darran's one in the 2011 Q-final against Limerick too.
Stephen's goal yesterday wasn't too shabby either!" Yeah Darren O'Sullivan's goal was something special alright.
Doesn't have the impact of the other goals though.
MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 12/08/2019 18:58:46
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What many don't like to remember was that, the GAA aside, it was pretty grim back then. Soon, we would have thousands of young people streaming abroad. The violence north of the border was also hard to stomach.
Those games back then lit up our lives in a way which is hard to imagine now. Sad to see so few out yesterday for an All Ireland semi-final. Let's hope the final itself recaptures some of that earlier spirit. We could all do with it!
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Replying To slayer: "Unless you saw it live it may be difficult to take in the magnitude of this game.
Ireland was a country still emerging from the Hunger Strikes in 1981 which had for a long time been the main topic of conversation. GAA was central to the Irish psyche. Offaly had come from nowhere to win the Leinster Hurling title in 1980, then the All-Ireland in 1981. The Offaly footballers had contested the 1980 semi final v Kerry in a classic and then lost the final to them in 1981. Kerry had ruled football with an Iron Fist.
Ireland was very different back then. GAA was an integral part of everyone's life. All week the talk was about the game. There was not the same media coverage as there is now so interviews with Management or Players were golden. Both sides changed their shirts for the final, as I think they did in 1981 also. The Offaly shirt was lovely, mainly white with the green & gold also thrown in with a bit of class.
The game itself was eventful but the feeling was Offaly were never out of it, as Kerry put away other teams in finals. The penalty save was pivotal, Furlong was a hero. But a 'never say die' attitude which was a key characteristic of Offaly teams in that era made them keep going at Kerry. It wasn't a great surprise that they had a go at winning the final, but it was a surprise that they held Kerry off after getting ahead. There didn't seem to be any panic, they believed that the title was theirs. Then again in the previous four finals Kerry had a health lead in the latter stages of the game. Perhaps they felt jitters at only being two up as the clock ticked towards winning time.
The goal itself is one of the most magical memories ever in GAA. As a hurling man, I even say perhaps 'The' single greatest GAA memory there is. Does any other memory make people remember where they were or who they were with when it happened? It is like watching that TV program 'Cold Case' where they flick between present day & the era in question. Certainly, that moment is one that stands out from childhood. Darby's dance, a mini pitch invasion, the legendary Micheal O'Hehir's commentary - iconic.
In 1997 Offaly won the Leinster Football title with a fine win over Meath. Kerry had won Munster. They looked on course to meet in the All-Ireland final but Mayo stepped in to defeat Offaly. It would have been nice to see that rematch fifteen years on and with Roy Malone & Vinny Claffey they would have had a right cut off Kerry. The Offaly team from 1982 didn't kick on as Dublin emerged with a fine team from 83-85 and then Meath ruled Leinster from 86-91 89 (apart).
We learned a lot about GAA from that 1982 match. Never giving in, self belief, the power of a great Manager (which I believe Eugene was). But in the years after there was also a lesson about class and tradition. Kerry lost the 1983 Munster Final to Tadhg Murphy's late Cork goal, but then won the finals from 84-86, beating a very good Dublin team as well as sides like Meath & Tyrone also along the way. In nine years of championship they won seven titles and lost the other years to two late goals. Quite simply a magnificent team.
But everyone remembers Seamus Darby, Offaly and from the other messages, that nudge/push :-)
Offaly v Kerry 1982 - Great memories." Great post. We ( Roscommon ) had a superb team from 76-80 and should have won an All Ireland but alas we didn't have the same luck as Offaly to get over the line. Players like Harry Keegan, Pat Lindsay, Dermot Earley, Jigger O Connor, Danny Murray were all too good to go without winning an All Ireland. They should have lasted into the early eighties but the curse of emigration hit and Galway emerged and got to the infamous 83 final. Roscommon were surprisingly beaten in 81 by Sligo and with no back door that team left the scene without an All Ireland. That Roscommon team unfortunately had a magnificent Kerry and Dublin team to deal with around that time along with a good Armagh and Offaly team. Bit like Mayo having came up with Dublin in recent All Irelands. But yes Darbys goal in 82 was the stuff of magic. Offaly was booming that time also with Bord na Mona very strong and a great source of employment.
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Replying To slayer: "Unless you saw it live it may be difficult to take in the magnitude of this game.
Ireland was a country still emerging from the Hunger Strikes in 1981 which had for a long time been the main topic of conversation. GAA was central to the Irish psyche. Offaly had come from nowhere to win the Leinster Hurling title in 1980, then the All-Ireland in 1981. The Offaly footballers had contested the 1980 semi final v Kerry in a classic and then lost the final to them in 1981. Kerry had ruled football with an Iron Fist.
Ireland was very different back then. GAA was an integral part of everyone's life. All week the talk was about the game. There was not the same media coverage as there is now so interviews with Management or Players were golden. Both sides changed their shirts for the final, as I think they did in 1981 also. The Offaly shirt was lovely, mainly white with the green & gold also thrown in with a bit of class.
The game itself was eventful but the feeling was Offaly were never out of it, as Kerry put away other teams in finals. The penalty save was pivotal, Furlong was a hero. But a 'never say die' attitude which was a key characteristic of Offaly teams in that era made them keep going at Kerry. It wasn't a great surprise that they had a go at winning the final, but it was a surprise that they held Kerry off after getting ahead. There didn't seem to be any panic, they believed that the title was theirs. Then again in the previous four finals Kerry had a health lead in the latter stages of the game. Perhaps they felt jitters at only being two up as the clock ticked towards winning time.
The goal itself is one of the most magical memories ever in GAA. As a hurling man, I even say perhaps 'The' single greatest GAA memory there is. Does any other memory make people remember where they were or who they were with when it happened? It is like watching that TV program 'Cold Case' where they flick between present day & the era in question. Certainly, that moment is one that stands out from childhood. Darby's dance, a mini pitch invasion, the legendary Micheal O'Hehir's commentary - iconic.
In 1997 Offaly won the Leinster Football title with a fine win over Meath. Kerry had won Munster. They looked on course to meet in the All-Ireland final but Mayo stepped in to defeat Offaly. It would have been nice to see that rematch fifteen years on and with Roy Malone & Vinny Claffey they would have had a right cut off Kerry. The Offaly team from 1982 didn't kick on as Dublin emerged with a fine team from 83-85 and then Meath ruled Leinster from 86-91 89 (apart).
We learned a lot about GAA from that 1982 match. Never giving in, self belief, the power of a great Manager (which I believe Eugene was). But in the years after there was also a lesson about class and tradition. Kerry lost the 1983 Munster Final to Tadhg Murphy's late Cork goal, but then won the finals from 84-86, beating a very good Dublin team as well as sides like Meath & Tyrone also along the way. In nine years of championship they won seven titles and lost the other years to two late goals. Quite simply a magnificent team.
But everyone remembers Seamus Darby, Offaly and from the other messages, that nudge/push :-)
Offaly v Kerry 1982 - Great memories." Great post. We ( Roscommon ) had a superb team from 76-80 and should have won an All Ireland but alas we didn't have the same luck as Offaly to get over the line. Players like Harry Keegan, Pat Lindsay, Dermot Earley, Jigger O Connor, Danny Murray were all too good to go without winning an All Ireland. They should have lasted into the early eighties but the curse of emigration hit and Galway emerged and got to the infamous 83 final. Roscommon were surprisingly beaten in 81 by Sligo and with no back door that team left the scene without an All Ireland. That Roscommon team unfortunately had a magnificent Kerry and Dublin team to deal with around that time along with a good Armagh and Offaly team. Bit like Mayo having came up with Dublin in recent All Irelands. But yes Darbys goal in 82 was the stuff of magic. Offaly was booming that time also with Bord na Mona very strong and a great source of employment.
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