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Limerick V Kilkenny

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as usual,its the referees fault.
in 50 years following gaa it has been a constant rhetoric.
limerick lost today because they couldnt match kilkenny intensity and workrate,and they drove too many wides.they were far more crucial than one borderline call.
if refereeing is so easy,why dont more of you take it up?
i also wondered if aaron gillan was inside the 21 for the penalty?

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 27/07/2019 22:14:35    2217303

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same with Kerry in the football Kilkenny are always dangerous because they're never going to lack belief and will to win

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 27/07/2019 22:14:54    2217305

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Replying To Ban:  "Well Gillane was also fouling Lawlor when the penalty was awarded. TJ's legitimate handpass was pulled for a foul (result was a pointed free) and so we could go on for a while. Things probably balance on over the course of the game.
Kilkenny were outstanding - Well done to them."
As I've said those type of "decisions" are one man's interpretation, a ball put out over a line by way of an opposition player is black and white there's no debate, it went out or it did not. Simples.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 27/07/2019 22:20:41    2217307

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Replying To mickcunningham:  "in my opinion young hugh lawlor was man of the match . t j does nothing from play . delighted for the cats and hope wexford win tomorrow to kill the bullshit about munster hurling"
T J does nothing from play?What game were you watching?

dubarra (Wicklow) - Posts: 541 - 27/07/2019 22:24:21    2217308

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Replying To corkcelt:  "Outstanding game. Kilkenny deserved their win, Over the 70 minutes I thought Ref gave Limerick most of the tight calls, However none of what I say can excuse the fiasco at the end when Limerick should have had a 65 to draw the game.
These lads on both sides sacrifice so much it is an absolute disgrace that Limerick are knocked out by the failure of Officials to spot an obvious deflection of a ball for a 65.
I absolutely loved the game but feel sick at the injustice of the way it ended."
Finally someone else sees sense.
Its absolutely farcical carry on. People saying and doing nothing about this type of carry on is why things will never change.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 27/07/2019 22:26:59    2217311

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Replying To perfect10:  "as usual,its the referees fault.
in 50 years following gaa it has been a constant rhetoric.
limerick lost today because they couldnt match kilkenny intensity and workrate,and they drove too many wides.they were far more crucial than one borderline call.
if refereeing is so easy,why dont more of you take it up?
i also wondered if aaron gillan was inside the 21 for the penalty?"
Well if the officials could not spot a deflected ball going over the line well then yes it is the referees fault.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 27/07/2019 22:28:32    2217313

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As a passion Galway supporter my dislike for KK goes back years. While I was heartbroken that Galway lost last years all Ireland Limerick were deserved winners on the day. What has followed in 2019 where a handful of limerick keyboard supports display notting but arrogance on HS . For that reason I shouted my head of for KK tonight. Notting has changed in my opinion Tipperary will win this year's all Ireland.

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 27/07/2019 22:30:13    2217315

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Replying To arock:  "You are delighted for what exactly? you are just a wind up doll, no doubt you will be on here tomorrow with some insightful taunts for either Wexford or Tipp fans. Presumably that is what has you happy."
I'd say their still raging down in Clare with Limerick for throwing the last round robin game against Tipp.

WEX98 (Wexford) - Posts: 375 - 27/07/2019 22:38:14    2217320

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Agree to differ. I thought kk had to work very hard for frees today. Richie hogan was fouled multiple times and got nothing."
Nothing what so ever to do with a wrong call in the last seconds of a game that influenced the result at least at normal time conclusion. Kilkenny may still have won anyway but would you want tomorrow's game decided the same way for Wexford. Some how or other I think you would be screaming foul.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 27/07/2019 22:40:35    2217322

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Replying To Bon:  "Finally someone else sees sense.
Its absolutely farcical carry on. People saying and doing nothing about this type of carry on is why things will never change."
Have to agree with both of you. The counter attack is always you are blaming referees again. Most of the people who are o.k. with this probably scream about the ref when it comes to their team. I am not blaming referees. Blaming a system that allows this to happen when there are safe guards to make sure it does not. Limerick or Kilkenny do not deserve this either.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2660 - 27/07/2019 22:47:22    2217326

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Brian Cody is a legend and is and will be forever the best manager in any sport! Limerick were out worked in the first 20 minutes and ultimately lost the game here. Kilkenny's tackling and hunger all over the field had Limerick all over the place. Limerick are a good team when defenders stand off them and they get plenty of time on the ball in Munster but today they met a team that fought for every ball from start to finish. TJ Reid while he didn't score from play could be found as much defending as attacking and his will to win every ball is savage. Fair enough Limerick can feel aggrieved over a deflected ball at the end but the penalty they got was generous enough and slowed down Gillane was holding Lawlors Hurl under his arm. I hope some of the Limerick supporters on here appreciate what they achieved last year, and bring some of them back down to earth after some of the cocky ness they were going on with on here. Cody is a master and he can slay any system and any manager in a short space of time, written off after the Leinster final and now back for another final.

ke40 (Kildare) - Posts: 209 - 27/07/2019 22:50:40    2217328

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am from neither county so no skin in the fire, but apart from the 65 at the end, how are we not talking about the 9 steps for fennellys goal??? like i know we all say ah it ends on the field, take your beating like a man etc but in the modern game lads are putting in 20 plus hours a week, putting their lives on hold and then get officiating like this?? in one way its worse than big mistakes say in big soccer games as those lads are doing a job and get paid for it. and then the money it costs to keep the show on the road... jayus..

old yellar (None) - Posts: 2625 - 27/07/2019 22:54:41    2217332

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Replying To heartbroken:  "As a passion Galway supporter my dislike for KK goes back years. While I was heartbroken that Galway lost last years all Ireland Limerick were deserved winners on the day. What has followed in 2019 where a handful of limerick keyboard supports display notting but arrogance on HS . For that reason I shouted my head of for KK tonight. Notting has changed in my opinion Tipperary will win this year's all Ireland."
Examples please.

Give names or maybe some quotes or examples which led You to this position.

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/07/2019 23:08:46    2217338

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Congrats to Kilkenny. Awesome accomplishment. One of their best wins ever. I didn't see it coming. Good luck in the Final.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 2120 - 27/07/2019 23:10:11    2217340

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "This one was set up nicely for KK with no pressure on them at all. I thought they deserved it, but Limerick hit some awful wides. Whenever they were getting on top, they killed the momentum with a poor shot. They really struggled to pick off scores from play and I thought Kelly gave them a few soft ones.
If the last 2 years have shown us anything, it's that most of the top 6 or 7 can beat each other on any given day. It baffles me that analysts continue to say a particular team is way out in front, when all of the evidence has shown the contrary."
100% correct.....Galway won in 2017 as they were ravenous ......couldn't matc that hunger last year ( injuries played big part this year)......Limerick had that hunger last year but not to the same extent this year but KK haven't won since 2015 so have that hunger again......nothing between the top 5/6 teams on their day and hunger/work rate is key determinant at the minute .....Tipp remain best 'hurling' team in it BUT Wexford will test their mettle and stomach for the War tomorrow just like KK did today.......

PaudieSull1 (Down) - Posts: 738 - 27/07/2019 23:15:05    2217343

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Replying To heartbroken:  "As a passion Galway supporter my dislike for KK goes back years. While I was heartbroken that Galway lost last years all Ireland Limerick were deserved winners on the day. What has followed in 2019 where a handful of limerick keyboard supports display notting but arrogance on HS . For that reason I shouted my head of for KK tonight. Notting has changed in my opinion Tipperary will win this year's all Ireland."
Well I was jumping with delight at the final whistle, not for KK winning but for LK losing!
KK will win the all Ireland in my opinion.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 27/07/2019 23:15:56    2217345

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "In spite of that dodgy call at the end, the best and hungriest team won.

That's an enormous result for kk. You just don't get bad kilkenny teams. They're either very good or unbeatable.

Sad for limerick but they will be hungry again next year. Fantastic champions."
100% Yes to this. KK were hungrier and that won it and also was great in a weird way to ee KK so ecstatic to beat Limerick shows how far we have come. And if there is one thing this place doesnt do its give up kid so yes we will be back

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 27/07/2019 23:19:43    2217347

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Wexford fan here,Well done to Kilkenny,the intensity was unreal, This was Cody's finest hour,written off and then put in a performance like that,have to hand it to him some manager. Best team won today. Hopefully we will get to meet you in the final, would be some build up if we did. Tipp are not gonna hand it to us though, we will have to stop them getting goals which they good at,we have every chance if we can do that. We need that manic aggression that KK had today,we need to be efficient with scores and need goals.we have to run at them. Feel sorry for Limerick,that sideline at the end was terrible officiating and they have every right to be aggrieved.Limerick have been wonderful champions.

Tox73 (Wexford) - Posts: 169 - 27/07/2019 23:34:51    2217349

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Limerick were not at the races at all. Some of the wides were desperate. They'll be kicking themselves.

I actually think this result will give wexford or Tipp a better chance in the final.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/07/2019 00:21:42    2217355

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Don't understand the uproar over the sideline. The penalty was clearly struck inside the 21 which should of resulted in a free out. Although I fancied Limerick it's very blinkered to define a whole game by one decision. As some other poster said, frees are subjective however how was the penalty missed also. Limerick would still have to convert the 65, Kilkenny would have been an extra 3 points ahead on the penalty.

Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 28/07/2019 00:31:32    2217357

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