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Replying To Heftydickonem: "As has been stated already one of Limericks scores from a free came from an incorrect illegal handpass call by the ref, so if you had got and scored your 65, Kilkenny would have been deprived of a win that they deserved.
It is likely that Limerick would have scored the 65, but its not certain. It is certain that Limerick scored the aforementioned free for the 'throw' by TJ Reid. Such is sport, you had more than the rub of the green in last years QF.
Buckley was lucky not to get a red this time round and last year Limerick should have been down to 14 for 60 minutes of the game for this https://youtu.be/OjL94ykHeu8?t=278
As we in Kilkenny know well, when public sentiment is with your opponent, for example when you are champions, people are quick to gloss over injustices suffered, and you just have to move on. If this sideline incident happened in the first minute there would be little to no mention of it. Besides, and I mentioned this elsewhere, that looking back on discussions from during the match on a few forums, that most neutrals had the opinion that the ref was being harder on Kilkenny than Limerick." Oh lordy they revert to every other thing again. Its the same in every reply.
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Might be time to call it on this thread.
We lost by a point to a team that played smarter hurling on the day.
Could of, should of, didn't.
Thing is, we'll learn from this. only the beginning for this limerick team, not the end.
There's going to hopefully be a lot of good days to come in Croke park.
skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1062 - 31/07/2019 17:14:36
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Replying To LuimneachDaithi: "Oh lordy they revert to every other thing again. Its the same in every reply." Jesus great reply.
Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 31/07/2019 17:31:20
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Replying To skillet: "Might be time to call it on this thread.
We lost by a point to a team that played smarter hurling on the day.
Could of, should of, didn't.
Thing is, we'll learn from this. only the beginning for this limerick team, not the end.
There's going to hopefully be a lot of good days to come in Croke park." I think Limerick can improve, the wide count even in the final last year was 21 I think, the jammy goals won the title, no question. Limerick will be back no doubt.
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65s, frees,penalties were all put into perspective for me this evening,I was informed that Brendan Fennelly passed away today,Brendan was in his early sixties and one of the famous Fennelly brothers who brought so much honour to their club and county,Brendan was an uncle to present players Colin Fennellly and Adrian Mullen.RIP Brendan.
mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 533 - 31/07/2019 18:29:36
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Replying To maroondiesel: "I think Limerick can improve, the wide count even in the final last year was 21 I think, the jammy goals won the title, no question. Limerick will be back no doubt." Thanks Maroondiesel. If we got breaks last year I think no county team merited them more. I look forward to more tough battles with Galway in the future. Ye seem to be keeping a great supply chain going at under age level. That promise will just have to blow its cone sometime.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 19:07:25
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Replying To ballydalane: "Maybe you can lodge an official complaint with the GAA......oh, sorry, you're County Board have already done that!
Ye have a very good hurling team but my God, that's petty, small-time stuff. I'd say yer players are mortified. It's like your Mammy coming into your class to give out to the teacher." Well if that is to highlight the poor standard of refereeing in general maybe they are right. We are too worried about being seen in a bad light if we complain. There was four and a half million pounds collected, on the sweat of the players over the weekend be they Tipp, Wexford, Kilkenny or Limerick. They simply should demand that the standard of officiating should be improved and if special training can be got for officials and new technology installed to assist them why not. That should be to the benefit of every team.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 19:22:59
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Replying To ballydalane: "Maybe you can lodge an official complaint with the GAA......oh, sorry, you're County Board have already done that!
Ye have a very good hurling team but my God, that's petty, small-time stuff. I'd say yer players are mortified. It's like your Mammy coming into your class to give out to the teacher." BTW, where did you see the evidence for the existence this complaint. Normally the Limerick County Board would not complain if Croke Park rolled them with a steam roller.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 19:30:30
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Replying To ballydalane: "Maybe you can lodge an official complaint with the GAA......oh, sorry, you're County Board have already done that!
Ye have a very good hurling team but my God, that's petty, small-time stuff. I'd say yer players are mortified. It's like your Mammy coming into your class to give out to the teacher." ballydallane. Ye were not too bad at 'daul' objections yourselves. Back in 1905 when Cork beat ye in the Final by a point- watch out- ye threw in an 'aul objection' yereselves ( quite rightly might I add) because 'Rebel Cork' fielded among their esteemed ranks an Ex British Solidier. 'Rebel' Kilkenny, whose only significant contribution to Irish insurgency was to piss on the powder of '98, lodged an objection on purely principled grounds, don't you know, to this amazing attack on National Self Esteem. Quite correctly a replay was ordered and the Cats swept to victory.
In 1900, I think,- I'm not really interested in these things- both Kilkenny and your your most treasured neighbours from the self styled Premier County qualified for the All Football Semi Final. Among the participating players were coal miners working in colleries on the border bad lands around Ballingarry and a massive row erupted as to which county of these lads were eligable to play for. Objections were flying and Central Council, God bless them, were driven to distraction in an attempts to resolve the most dangerous of all disputes, namely one involves Tipperary and Kilkenny.
ballydallane we might never have too many All Irelands, buy those that we did win were all won on the field.
PS I hope my dear friend Bloodyban does not see this- there could be blood.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 20:18:18
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Replying To Oldtourman: "Well if that is to highlight the poor standard of refereeing in general maybe they are right. We are too worried about being seen in a bad light if we complain. There was four and a half million pounds collected, on the sweat of the players over the weekend be they Tipp, Wexford, Kilkenny or Limerick. They simply should demand that the standard of officiating should be improved and if special training can be got for officials and new technology installed to assist them why not. That should be to the benefit of every team." Limerick have a very good team and they were worthy champions last year,its a pity that there should be so much controversey about the semi,I agree with you that standard must be improved,but it must be improved from the first minute to the last,
mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 533 - 31/07/2019 20:39:45
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Replying To Oldtourman: "ballydallane. Ye were not too bad at 'daul' objections yourselves. Back in 1905 when Cork beat ye in the Final by a point- watch out- ye threw in an 'aul objection' yereselves ( quite rightly might I add) because 'Rebel Cork' fielded among their esteemed ranks an Ex British Solidier. 'Rebel' Kilkenny, whose only significant contribution to Irish insurgency was to piss on the powder of '98, lodged an objection on purely principled grounds, don't you know, to this amazing attack on National Self Esteem. Quite correctly a replay was ordered and the Cats swept to victory.
In 1900, I think,- I'm not really interested in these things- both Kilkenny and your your most treasured neighbours from the self styled Premier County qualified for the All Football Semi Final. Among the participating players were coal miners working in colleries on the border bad lands around Ballingarry and a massive row erupted as to which county of these lads were eligable to play for. Objections were flying and Central Council, God bless them, were driven to distraction in an attempts to resolve the most dangerous of all disputes, namely one involves Tipperary and Kilkenny.
ballydallane we might never have too many All Irelands, buy those that we did win were all won on the field.
PS I hope my dear friend Bloodyban does not see this- there could be blood." Is your real name Marty McFly?.
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Replying To Dec82: "Is your real name Marty McFly?." You will never know Dec, I like to keep my powder dry- and especially when there are Kilkenny folk around.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 21:22:59
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Replying To mooncat: "Limerick have a very good team and they were worthy champions last year,its a pity that there should be so much controversey about the semi,I agree with you that standard must be improved,but it must be improved from the first minute to the last," Oh yes, that should be the priority. I do think players deserve better and that includes players from every county.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 21:31:13
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Replying To Oldtourman: "You will never know Dec, I like to keep my powder dry- and especially when there are Kilkenny folk around." Some very petty posting from you this evening Oldtourman, the loss is hitting you hard it seems
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Replying To Heftydickonem: "Some very petty posting from you this evening Oldtourman, the loss is hitting you hard it seems" Bit harsh, only meant as a joke i would presume.
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Replying To Oldtourman: "ballydallane. Ye were not too bad at 'daul' objections yourselves. Back in 1905 when Cork beat ye in the Final by a point- watch out- ye threw in an 'aul objection' yereselves ( quite rightly might I add) because 'Rebel Cork' fielded among their esteemed ranks an Ex British Solidier. 'Rebel' Kilkenny, whose only significant contribution to Irish insurgency was to piss on the powder of '98, lodged an objection on purely principled grounds, don't you know, to this amazing attack on National Self Esteem. Quite correctly a replay was ordered and the Cats swept to victory.
In 1900, I think,- I'm not really interested in these things- both Kilkenny and your your most treasured neighbours from the self styled Premier County qualified for the All Football Semi Final. Among the participating players were coal miners working in colleries on the border bad lands around Ballingarry and a massive row erupted as to which county of these lads were eligable to play for. Objections were flying and Central Council, God bless them, were driven to distraction in an attempts to resolve the most dangerous of all disputes, namely one involves Tipperary and Kilkenny.
ballydallane we might never have too many All Irelands, buy those that we did win were all won on the field.
PS I hope my dear friend Bloodyban does not see this- there could be blood." Kilkenny didn't piss on the powder. It was the Doonane colliers, LAOIS!
It just suited the Wexford narrative playing Kilkenny more often in big games.
Doonane is on the border of Kilkenny, in Laois.
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Replying To Heftydickonem: "Some very petty posting from you this evening Oldtourman, the loss is hitting you hard it seems" Not at all. I have followed my team through four and a half decades of defeat and long before 73, I sure as hell wont turn my back on this fine side. Wonderful to see you, Ballydalane seems to have gone to ground. I'll send the mongrel foxes after him.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 22:51:52
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Replying To Oldtourman: "ballydallane. Ye were not too bad at 'daul' objections yourselves. Back in 1905 when Cork beat ye in the Final by a point- watch out- ye threw in an 'aul objection' yereselves ( quite rightly might I add) because 'Rebel Cork' fielded among their esteemed ranks an Ex British Solidier. 'Rebel' Kilkenny, whose only significant contribution to Irish insurgency was to piss on the powder of '98, lodged an objection on purely principled grounds, don't you know, to this amazing attack on National Self Esteem. Quite correctly a replay was ordered and the Cats swept to victory.
In 1900, I think,- I'm not really interested in these things- both Kilkenny and your your most treasured neighbours from the self styled Premier County qualified for the All Football Semi Final. Among the participating players were coal miners working in colleries on the border bad lands around Ballingarry and a massive row erupted as to which county of these lads were eligable to play for. Objections were flying and Central Council, God bless them, were driven to distraction in an attempts to resolve the most dangerous of all disputes, namely one involves Tipperary and Kilkenny.
ballydallane we might never have too many All Irelands, buy those that we did win were all won on the field.
PS I hope my dear friend Bloodyban does not see this- there could be blood." 1905?! Pissing on gunpowder??!! Oh dear!
As Tommie Gorman said to Roy Keane, "this is hurting you, isn't it?"
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 31/07/2019 23:08:49
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Replying To Heftydickonem: "Some very petty posting from you this evening Oldtourman, the loss is hitting you hard it seems" The reason for the 'petty posting' is that your fellow county subscriber said our county board had sent an objection to Croke Park and passed derogatory remarks about them for so doing . All they did was convey their dissatisfaction to the authorities at the level of Performance of the officials on Saturday and ask that people should be helped to be prepared to officiate at major games and instead of passing belittling comments about the Limerick County Board other County Boards should be supporting them, because our players deserve better, from whatever county them come, and on a wider basis our Associations image is not enchanced when mistakes of this nature are highlighted. I then engaged a little of light relief about KK and objections, seeing as our friend had brought up the subject. All a bit of harmless fun, never meant to give offence, only a bit of amusement. After all ' a little nonsence, now and then, is relished by the wisest men'. I take it you are one of the 'the wisest men'
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 31/07/2019 23:43:56
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Replying To Oldtourman: "ballydallane. Ye were not too bad at 'daul' objections yourselves. Back in 1905 when Cork beat ye in the Final by a point- watch out- ye threw in an 'aul objection' yereselves ( quite rightly might I add) because 'Rebel Cork' fielded among their esteemed ranks an Ex British Solidier. 'Rebel' Kilkenny, whose only significant contribution to Irish insurgency was to piss on the powder of '98, lodged an objection on purely principled grounds, don't you know, to this amazing attack on National Self Esteem. Quite correctly a replay was ordered and the Cats swept to victory.
In 1900, I think,- I'm not really interested in these things- both Kilkenny and your your most treasured neighbours from the self styled Premier County qualified for the All Football Semi Final. Among the participating players were coal miners working in colleries on the border bad lands around Ballingarry and a massive row erupted as to which county of these lads were eligable to play for. Objections were flying and Central Council, God bless them, were driven to distraction in an attempts to resolve the most dangerous of all disputes, namely one involves Tipperary and Kilkenny.
ballydallane we might never have too many All Irelands, buy those that we did win were all won on the field.
PS I hope my dear friend Bloodyban does not see this- there could be blood." Brilliant, thanks!
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