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Straight red for me. Sitting on his a**e what was he at swinging the hurley. Whether the strike was with minimal contact or with force it's a red.
Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 29/07/2019 17:19:12 2218347 Link 0 |
Yes, you are correct. So in a funny way, Sean Cleere did Tipp a massive favour there.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 29/07/2019 17:24:47 2218352 Link 0 |
Yellow card or red card, the net effect was nil because he still got the line. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 29/07/2019 17:26:12 2218357 Link 0 |
There are a lot of sub plots to this final: First championship game between Cody and Sheedy since Sheedy and Tipp stopped the drive for 5 in 2010. Kilkenny will be 5 years without an all Ireland if they don't win this win. That would be a huge "drought" during the Cody era. If Tipp win it will be 3 - 3 in final head to heads during the Cody era. That is something we would be very happy about considering how Tipp were often vilified during the height Cody era when Kilkenny beat them. Following on from the point above Tipp haven't got enough credit for putting it up to Kilkenny from 2009 - 2011 when no one else could live with them. Tipp were dismissed as passed it last year and over the hill. Sheedy was with the older lads in 2006 when they won minor and 2010 when they won senior. He is with them again at the end of their hurling journey. The short version is, its Tipp and Kilkenny. Sport is about rivalry, and boy is this a big rivalry. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 29/07/2019 17:40:01 2218362 Link 0 |
It makes a difference for the next game. Don't like to see any player missing a final. Ask Conor Gleeson how that feels. Selective application rule.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 29/07/2019 17:53:19 2218367 Link 0 |
the net effect was not nil because he would have missed the final if he had got a straight red
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/07/2019 17:58:21 2218369 Link 0 |
Did you watch the replay? Where did his hurl connect with Reck?
Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 29/07/2019 18:03:14 2218373 Link 0 |
i watched it back today.
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/07/2019 19:21:01 2218400 Link 0 |
Spot on. He actually never caught him on the hand and Reck even changed his mind about which hand he struck. I'm biased but I don't think it was a straight red
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 29/07/2019 19:23:54 2218401 Link 0 |
rule 7.2 of the rule book. Category 3. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/07/2019 19:39:19 2218405 Link 0 |
Net effect was nil for the match.
ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 29/07/2019 19:42:15 2218409 Link 0 |
Don't have the rulebook in front of me but almost certain the wording is "to strike or attempt to strike...." but to paraphrase Shakespeare, it's a rule more honoured in the breach than the observance. ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 29/07/2019 19:44:36 2218411 Link 1 |
In the very first set of replays during the match I saw that there was no contact and I couldn't believe that not only did Duignan miss this but praised Reck for getting up so quickly. And then in the Sunday Game, they again stated that McGrath was lucky not to get a red, while ignoring the simulation. This was repeated through many reports in newspapers today. Heftydickonem (Kilkenny) - Posts: 175 - 29/07/2019 20:23:21 2218448 Link 0 |
Again tell that to Conor Gleeson.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2658 - 29/07/2019 20:53:27 2218468 Link 0 |
Always good to change your mind about what hand got hit :) McGrath was stupid to swing in the first place, hopefully he'll play a blinder in the final. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 29/07/2019 21:56:03 2218500 Link 0 |
Firstly said I wouldn't post till the jets cooled down after a right humdinger of a match. WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 29/07/2019 22:09:20 2218511 Link 1 |
The Final is a 50/50 game between these two great rivals.I agree with you that Kilkenny have momentum after beating Cork and Limerick.Tipp also go in to the Final with serious momentum after digging out the win against Wexford.i just think Tipperary with Sheedy and Eamonn O'Shea back managing them will find a way to win just as they did last Sunday.Cody and Kilkenny can never be written off and I'm certainly not doing that but I think Tipperary will be champions come 5p.m on August 18.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2162 - 29/07/2019 23:55:10 2218550 Link 0 |
When was John McGrath sent off earlier this year?
midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 542 - 30/07/2019 01:30:45 2218560 Link 0 |
It was as clear as day that John McGrath, while lying on the ground, struck Reck with his hurley. Now I doubt if it was malicious or hit with force enough to injure anybody, but strictly defined it was a deliberate strike with a hurley on Reck and the referee would have been well within his rights to give him a straight red. It was an extremely foolish action as he was already on a yellow card and was red carded against Limerick in the League earlier this year. Sean Cleere was in a no win situation as if had put off John he would have been accused of making his own countys task easier in the Final. I though he consulted his fellow officials throughout the game, unlike his counterpart on Saturday and generally did a fine job. As regards Tipp annoyance about 'disallowed' goals: the first disallowed 'goal' on TV it was quite clear shown that the Wexford defender was pushed in the back and it was a free out all day long, the second one was overruled by Hawkeye something totally outside his control. I think Josh's goal should have been allowed but Connor McDonald was clearly fouled inside the square immediately after the sending off and was not given a penalty, so these two incidents evened themselves out
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 30/07/2019 07:40:49 2218569 Link 1 |
Whatever about Limerick, I could never understand how so many people backed Cork to beat Kilkenny.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 30/07/2019 09:40:16 2218597 Link 0 |