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Roscommon Vs Tyrone

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Replying To Rayo1:  "Tyrone win this at a canter.......Roscommon beat a nothing Galway team. Roscommon will lose all 3 games."
Roscommon will beat Cork

OGarmaile (Tyrone) - Posts: 248 - 10/07/2019 10:31:15    2208895

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Replying To Itoldyouso:  "Think you should look at that Harney incident again , keepers ( Morgan ) was the one who charged in. It used to be the case that the third man got a red card which Morgan should have got for going down with his knees on an a player. Harney just pushed him off . The powers that be said the referee (Mooney)made the right decision after the game . But how many league or championship games did he get scene then? 0."
Cant defend harney in this one unfortunately he cost us the game.


Any word on when Peter hartes black cards will be reviewed or have they already been reviewed?

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 10/07/2019 10:46:34    2208910

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Replying To Itoldyouso:  "Think you should look at that Harney incident again , keepers ( Morgan ) was the one who charged in. It used to be the case that the third man got a red card which Morgan should have got for going down with his knees on an a player. Harney just pushed him off . The powers that be said the referee (Mooney)made the right decision after the game . But how many league or championship games did he get scene then? 0."
I did and from what I see it was pure stupidly from Harney who otherwise is having a great season. I'm sure he's put it all behind him.
https://youtu.be/ihBkP8cGiCI
Game thrown away because of it. He should have left things be and do whatever he wanted to Morgan when when the free went over and Roscommon had taken the two points. Morgan and Tyrone ended up with the last laugh

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 10/07/2019 11:31:38    2208951

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Here is what happened sindar, Gary Patterson was pulled down by the Tyrone defender and was on the ground, the Tyrone keeper came out and went down on Patterson with his knee, Harney came in and pushed the keeper and Morgan went down like he was shot, total simulation.
The ref should have booked Morgan the third man in and maybe Harney but the free in should have stood.

giveballaghback (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 10/07/2019 14:40:33    2209069

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Replying To giveballaghback:  "Here is what happened sindar, Gary Patterson was pulled down by the Tyrone defender and was on the ground, the Tyrone keeper came out and went down on Patterson with his knee, Harney came in and pushed the keeper and Morgan went down like he was shot, total simulation.
The ref should have booked Morgan the third man in and maybe Harney but the free in should have stood."
You're the only one who seems to think that. Even Brolly and Dolan didn't see it that way. Get over it

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 10/07/2019 15:00:07    2209081

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Just watch it again what ultan did was ridiculas

Tarismelting22 (Roscommon) - Posts: 760 - 10/07/2019 15:07:38    2209086

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Replying To giveballaghback:  "Here is what happened sindar, Gary Patterson was pulled down by the Tyrone defender and was on the ground, the Tyrone keeper came out and went down on Patterson with his knee, Harney came in and pushed the keeper and Morgan went down like he was shot, total simulation.
The ref should have booked Morgan the third man in and maybe Harney but the free in should have stood."
Very little difference with what harney did and Vaughan did in all Ireland final ,mayo had scorable free Dublin man sent off then vaughan had a brain fart he was sent off and ball was thrown in ,it happens all over the country in many matches ,they are the rules regardless if u like it or not

Galwayjoe86 (Galway) - Posts: 258 - 10/07/2019 15:32:17    2209097

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Replying To Sindar:  "You're the only one who seems to think that. Even Brolly and Dolan didn't see it that way. Get over it"
Even Brolly and Dolan, some pair you picked, read the rule again if you have a rule book, the free is cancelled and the ball thrown up only if the player who is fouled retaliates, any other interpretation is wrong, its as i said Morgan should have been booked and free stood and im well over it.

giveballaghback (Roscommon) - Posts: 296 - 10/07/2019 17:17:26    2209153

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Replying To giveballaghback:  "Even Brolly and Dolan, some pair you picked, read the rule again if you have a rule book, the free is cancelled and the ball thrown up only if the player who is fouled retaliates, any other interpretation is wrong, its as i said Morgan should have been booked and free stood and im well over it."
Rule 5.37 For a player to retaliate between the award of a free kick to HIS TEAM and the free kick being taken". Penalty (I'll give the short version) - Throw in the ball.
You picked the wrong person to start making up rules with!!

Anyway, I'm not really sure why you have taken such an issue with my comment about Ultan Harney in this game when it was only to highlight that we had a golden opportunity to take Tyrone that day and missed it over a silly incident. I'm sure Ultan has moved on from it so maybe you should too.

Sindar (Roscommon) - Posts: 348 - 10/07/2019 17:40:25    2209166

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Replying To giveballaghback:  "Even Brolly and Dolan, some pair you picked, read the rule again if you have a rule book, the free is cancelled and the ball thrown up only if the player who is fouled retaliates, any other interpretation is wrong, its as i said Morgan should have been booked and free stood and im well over it."
Your own supporter Sindar just owned you.

Get over it. Long time ago.

The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 10/07/2019 18:28:25    2209190

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Your own supporter Sindar just owned you.

Get over it. Long time ago."
I agree it happen months ago and has nothing to do with the game Saturday.

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1043 - 10/07/2019 18:46:37    2209199

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Very much torn on this one. I think you can make a case for both teams. Cox and McShane sho+ oting the lights out. I hope we get a good competitive intense game in the Hyde. Is the Hyde sold out? I'll side with Tyrone to squeeze through this one just about

MarkRule (Mayo) - Posts: 41 - 11/07/2019 22:34:09    2209733

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Roscommon beat two established Div 1 teams in Galway and Mayo away deservedly so and yet still written off by a lot of posters on this thread and elsewhere? Would as many have the same view if Mayo or Galway had home advantage against Tyrone this weekend? i think not!

Mayo had a lot of wides against Roscommon but many of which were forced wides from good pressured defending from the rossies, one thing that seems to be forgotten from that match is that Roscommon scored 2-12 and had other chances also, 9 wides in total and had another goal chance saved. In the Connacht final Roscommon outplayed and overpowered Galway in the 2nd half of that final, Galway had a 5 point lead at half time due to a 10 minute purple patch they had and before it that sides were level at 0-5 each. It was one of those rare matches where the wind didn't effect a contest in Salthill

One poster on here made a good comment that in the qualifiers Tyrone have only beaten dead things. Kildare,Longford,Cavan were devoid of any confidence and were simply put out of their misery by Tyrone. The main thing for Tyrone was getting back to the last eight after their setback v Donegal. What Tyrone will bring to this game will be physicality,huge intensity,work rate,organization and will do whatever it takes to win.

Last year for the super 8s Roscommon was one of "dead things" that Tyrone bullied and tossed aside like rag dogs and time and time again they cut to shreds a very poor defence with waves of attacks. Things are a bit different now, Roscommon are very much alive and brimming with confidence having won Connacht the hard way and against the odds. All logic still points to a Tyrone win however if Roscommon can match all the things i outlined that Tyrone will bring to this contest then a upset win will be very much on the cards.

Yondu (UK) - Posts: 845 - 12/07/2019 01:46:18    2209774

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Replying To Tarismelting22:  "Cant defend harney in this one unfortunately he cost us the game.


Any word on when Peter hartes black cards will be reviewed or have they already been reviewed?"
Cost us that game sure, but that was game 3, we still had 4 more opportunities to get a result and didn't. The performance in Cavan and Salthill against teams we should be beating cost us a lot more then Ultans rush of blood.

Douglas_44 (Roscommon) - Posts: 225 - 12/07/2019 09:06:17    2209800

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Let's see what Ronan Daly is made of.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 12/07/2019 10:42:39    2209850

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Looking forward to this one. Very best of luck to our neighbours. Genuinely think they can win this game. Come on the Rossies!

ponga (Mayo) - Posts: 647 - 12/07/2019 11:04:19    2209867

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Replying To s goldrick:  "Let's see what Ronan Daly is made of."
I think he has shown what he is made of already this championship

dave1988 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1043 - 12/07/2019 12:17:51    2209907

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If Tyrone keep up their recent good form then it could be 5/6 point plus win for us. Can't see the Rossies having enough guile,physicality and intensity to pip Tyrone at this moment in time.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 12/07/2019 16:13:10    2210014

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I think Roscommon are really going to struggle to find scores in this match. That Tyrone defence is very difficult to breakdown. Plus Tyrone have the added dimension now in the full forward line. Just can't see past a Tyrone win.

HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 12/07/2019 17:21:23    2210037

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Replying To giveballaghback:  "Even Brolly and Dolan, some pair you picked, read the rule again if you have a rule book, the free is cancelled and the ball thrown up only if the player who is fouled retaliates, any other interpretation is wrong, its as i said Morgan should have been booked and free stood and im well over it."
The rule does not say if 'the player who is fouled retaliates' as you put it. The rule clearly states if 'A PLAYER RETALIATES' meaning any player!!

The_Biler (Westmeath) - Posts: 84 - 12/07/2019 17:43:37    2210047

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