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Do or die for Kerry this week lose and they face having to get a win the following week against Donegal in Croker

centerfield (Mayo) - Posts: 360 - 08/07/2019 23:08:48    2208245

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Replying To centerfield:  "Do or die for Kerry this week lose and they face having to get a win the following week against Donegal in Croker"
You could say the same for Mayo.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 09/07/2019 09:06:35    2208292

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Replying To avonali:  "You could say the same for Mayo."
You could look at it a number of ways as Donegal could technically be through by the time they play Mayo in Castlebar, giving Mayo a walkover etc

But you'd have to expect Kerry to be well up for this one now, the blood will be up after the 2 losses earlier this season. Mayo's physicality simply wore Kerry down, Kerry are not at the same levels of fitness as Mayo either. That comes with a few years of conditioning. Mayo's momentum as well will be hard to stop, some of their players are in flying form.

But Kerry's forwards could win this game early. Mayo have been playing a very risky brand of football. They should be winning games much easier than they have when they've gotten into commanding leads. They can get away with that against most teams but Kerrys forwards could punish Mayo more than other forward lines.

Either way, I can't wait for this game. I'm expecting fireworks

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 09/07/2019 10:26:13    2208333

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They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 09/07/2019 13:14:55    2208425

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do."
Beating Dublin has nothing to do with the Kerry V Mayo game next Sunday. Mayo and Kerry have competed very well
with Dublin during the present decade, it is time for Meath to do likewise besides having the surrender mentality.
Other teams have dominated in different eras, most recently Kilkenny in hurling and Kerry in football.

fainleog (Limerick) - Posts: 598 - 09/07/2019 15:42:31    2208504

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do."
That's the spirit , keep up the good work. It's talk like that that players would laugh at. Fools talk if you like.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 09/07/2019 15:58:21    2208514

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Replying To keithlemon:  "You could look at it a number of ways as Donegal could technically be through by the time they play Mayo in Castlebar, giving Mayo a walkover etc

But you'd have to expect Kerry to be well up for this one now, the blood will be up after the 2 losses earlier this season. Mayo's physicality simply wore Kerry down, Kerry are not at the same levels of fitness as Mayo either. That comes with a few years of conditioning. Mayo's momentum as well will be hard to stop, some of their players are in flying form.

But Kerry's forwards could win this game early. Mayo have been playing a very risky brand of football. They should be winning games much easier than they have when they've gotten into commanding leads. They can get away with that against most teams but Kerrys forwards could punish Mayo more than other forward lines.

Either way, I can't wait for this game. I'm expecting fireworks"
I can't wait for this game either both teams fully fit I would be fancying Mayo by a few, will be interesting to see if Keegan is fit will Sean O'Shea have an impact.

grodzilla (Galway) - Posts: 7 - 09/07/2019 16:18:22    2208526

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do."
Dublin have zero to do with Sunday. We have Mayo, Donegal and Meath first and IF we are still standing then we will worry about it.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 09/07/2019 16:58:15    2208542

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do."
You're right
Actually, whats the point in getting up in the morning, going to work

I feel like Tommy Tiernan in Father Ted listening to Radiohead!!

keithlemon (Australia) - Posts: 920 - 09/07/2019 17:14:58    2208552

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I don't think Mayo can go in thinking a lose will be ok because you could get caught v Meath and the last game v donegal will be a titanic battle and I don't think Horan or the team will be going in thinking that.

Aidan O Mahoney said Kerry will go to town on us if their forwards click so the kingdom battle cry has started and it's the biggest game down there in years...Mayo won't back down and Kerry want revenge so it will be some battle...isn't this what everyone wants

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 09/07/2019 17:43:37    2208570

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "They're not going to beat Dublin anyway so in the grand scheme of things I don't think they do."
Yeah that's exactly what everyone was saying about Donegal in 2014.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 09/07/2019 18:16:38    2208578

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I think you're looking at one of the two finalists here. This game will go a long way in creating huge confidence and momentum.
Goals will decide it I think as both are capable and whoever takes their chances better will sneak home.

catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 09/07/2019 18:45:09    2208590

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Not a must win technically, but a win would be a massive boost to either side. Kerry need to perform here for reasons other than qualification too. It has been a while since they have had a convincing performance against a Div 1 opponent in the championship. Huge questions hanging over them still.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 09/07/2019 20:18:12    2208628

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Not a must win technically, but a win would be a massive boost to either side. Kerry need to perform here for reasons other than qualification too. It has been a while since they have had a convincing performance against a Div 1 opponent in the championship. Huge questions hanging over them still."
Fair play to u, that's a good honest assessment of what Sunday is about from a Kerry perspective. I am looking forward to seeing how they get on. We'll know a lot more about where this team is at after this game.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 09/07/2019 21:01:40    2208661

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Not a must win technically, but a win would be a massive boost to either side. Kerry need to perform here for reasons other than qualification too. It has been a while since they have had a convincing performance against a Div 1 opponent in the championship. Huge questions hanging over them still."
Yes precisely Gerry, it was 2015 against Tyrone.
This is the youngest Kerry team in over 40 years
One of the youngest in the history of the game.
Its arguably a year too soon for these boys but they will give it their all and the Kerry public are proud of them.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 09/07/2019 21:28:32    2208689

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Replying To westkerry:  "Yes precisely Gerry, it was 2015 against Tyrone.
This is the youngest Kerry team in over 40 years
One of the youngest in the history of the game.
Its arguably a year too soon for these boys but they will give it their all and the Kerry public are proud of them."
Do you have any info on the youngest team? Average age, number of players under a certain age etc. I'd be interested in that.

CornAghais91 (Dublin) - Posts: 126 - 09/07/2019 21:49:34    2208703

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Replying To CornAghais91:  "Do you have any info on the youngest team? Average age, number of players under a certain age etc. I'd be interested in that."
I dont Corn, i know its our youngest since 75.
I was listening to an interview on the radio and they mentioned being one of the youngest of all time.

westkerry (Kerry) - Posts: 1250 - 09/07/2019 22:11:40    2208722

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Replying To CornAghais91:  "Do you have any info on the youngest team? Average age, number of players under a certain age etc. I'd be interested in that."
Not sure about the youngest but our team average age is 24. Off the top of my head I think it's just David Moran and Tommy Walsh on the panel that are 30 or over.

AnFear16 (Kerry) - Posts: 33 - 09/07/2019 23:43:27    2208788

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Replying To AnFear16:  "Not sure about the youngest but our team average age is 24. Off the top of my head I think it's just David Moran and Tommy Walsh on the panel that are 30 or over."
And Shane Enright is 31.
The average age of the Kerry team is 24 while the average age of the Mayo team is about 27. So no huge difference between the teams there.
And, it looks like only 2 (at most) of Kerry's starting 15 will be over 30, while 3 of Mayo's outfield players will be over 30. So, again, surprisingly, no significant difference there.
However, a difference is apparent in the extreme youth of Kerry's players: 7 are under 23 whereas on the Mayo side only 1 is under 23.

So, in the unlikely event of Kerry not winning the AI this year they are looking good for 5 in a row! At least!

Aibrean (Kerry) - Posts: 263 - 10/07/2019 23:09:52    2209293

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Replying To Aibrean:  "And Shane Enright is 31.
The average age of the Kerry team is 24 while the average age of the Mayo team is about 27. So no huge difference between the teams there.
And, it looks like only 2 (at most) of Kerry's starting 15 will be over 30, while 3 of Mayo's outfield players will be over 30. So, again, surprisingly, no significant difference there.
However, a difference is apparent in the extreme youth of Kerry's players: 7 are under 23 whereas on the Mayo side only 1 is under 23.

So, in the unlikely event of Kerry not winning the AI this year they are looking good for 5 in a row! At least!"
Indeed, and Dublin, having pocketed their fifth-in-a-row will suddenly decide to roll over? A couple of big assumptions are being made there.

offyertrolley (Leitrim) - Posts: 141 - 10/07/2019 23:43:33    2209306

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