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Munster Hurling Final Tipp V Limerick

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Replying To skillet:  "Have to agree. Flanagan was sensational for us last year, but fairly ineffective so far in 2019.
He's a strong physical player that we need in the full forward line cos I don't think they've fired yet..
His touch has looked poor at times but if he starts on Sunday hopefully he'll be on fire.

Can't underestimate Mahers loss to Tipp.
He's been quietly brilliant every game."
Barrett if injured or not 100% would be a bigger loss. Tipp have a great front 8 and good cover there. Less quality cover in the back 6. Also Kiely couldve had the lads pulling up treestumps during the week before the last game the game was completely irrelevant. Im quietly hopeful of a Limerick win but it will be close. Limerick have a good panel of 30 good players I think they will cope ok without Flanagan. Also think there might be a tactical surprise or 2 out of the Limerick management maybe mix up the puckouts keep it away from Tipps halfback line.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 11799 - 25/06/2019 12:18:42    2200547

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Replying To Buachaillbui:  "Gotta be Tipp for me. Particularly if they get ahead i think they'll stay ahead. Tipp by 3"
Your not been very generous there with only 3pts win for Tipp..... 7 or 8pts is more like it

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 25/06/2019 14:01:44    2200612

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Replying To katser:  "Your not been very generous there with only 3pts win for Tipp..... 7 or 8pts is more like it"
I'd find it funny if you were a little bit more subtle about it.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 25/06/2019 16:53:52    2200733

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Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "
Replying To WildPundit:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Funny fact Limerick have never beaten Tipp in a Munster final when game played in Limerick.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1609 - 24/06/2019 17:40:12 2200095


How many times has a Munster final between Tipp and Limerick been played in Limerick?"
Look it up"
I did. The last Munster final between Tipp and Limerick, to be played in Limerick, was a replay in 1996. The only other final was in 1922 (again a replay). So your so called "funny fact" is meaningless."]It wasn't meant to have meaning it's a fact.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 25/06/2019 17:00:46    2200739

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Replying To Dec82:  "I'd find it funny if you were a little bit more subtle about it."
I find it funny that "they" actually think they'll beat Tipp!

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 25/06/2019 17:32:21    2200762

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Replying To katser:  "I find it funny that "they" actually think they'll beat Tipp!"
now now kathleen its nice to be nice ......

munsterchamps (Limerick) - Posts: 1096 - 25/06/2019 17:46:33    2200770

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Limerick for me by 6.
Unlike in the game against Cork, I think Limerick will slow things down when Tipp get a bit of a run at them.
Not convinced this Tipp team will cope with the intensity over the 70 mins which is something they haven't had to manage so far. Cork did it for 15 mins or so and caused a fair bit of damage.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 25/06/2019 18:30:09    2200794

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Replying To munsterchamps:  "now now kathleen its nice to be nice ......"
Ah God bless her. She tries so hard.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1061 - 25/06/2019 19:35:10    2200830

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Its a draw for me. A draw double @ 80/1 might not be far away.

Dec82 (Clare) - Posts: 242 - 25/06/2019 19:54:00    2200842

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I reckon a late Limk comeback to rescue a draw

No matter the winner hopefully its a close game to wrap up what has been a poor Munster champs so far

Breezy (Limerick) - Posts: 1236 - 25/06/2019 20:01:55    2200847

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Well the best of luck to all teams this weekend.....on second thoughts maybe not Kilkenny.

Ej (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 25/06/2019 20:25:06    2200864

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Limerick only played Tipp once in a Munster Final in Limerick at least since the 1920s and certainly never lost a Munster Final to Tipp as LIT Gaelic Grounds as it was only opened in 1928. They previously played their Home Games in the Market Fields. In fact Tipp and Limerick played Munster Finals in Thurles in 1935, '36, '45 and '73, while only the '96 one was played in Limerick. The finals of '37, 49,71, 96' replay and 2001 were all played at neutral venues."
Great historian Oldtourman. Thanks!

PatOLogical (Limerick) - Posts: 1355 - 25/06/2019 21:04:03    2200892

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Replying To midlands:  "Oldtourman, your comments normally make a lot of sense but this one is off the wall. Flanagan was brilliant last year but has struggled to make an impact this year and Limerick are well used to playing without him at this stage. No doubt the potential is still there and he might well have a big say later in the year but as of now his loss wouldn't be nearly as critical as Bonner's, whose form has been simply sensational in the three and a half championship games he's played. Tipp's forward line will surely struggle without him. How he hasn't got even one man of the match award is a mystery."
Flanagan has been struggling with injury for most of the spring. Last year when at full flight he was absolutely crucial to Limericks cause. My comment is not as off the wall as you think as his physical presence alone- remember his bone crushing tackle on Mannion last year- is crucial. Our full forward line is relatively light weight without him. Do you really think Eoin Cadogan would have been man of the match if he was on a fully fit Flanagan.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 25/06/2019 21:22:02    2200910

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Replying To katser:  "Your not been very generous there with only 3pts win for Tipp..... 7 or 8pts is more like it"
I always found the people around Gurtymadden and Gortnagappa very generous, where they got you.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4318 - 25/06/2019 21:24:59    2200917

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "I always found the people around Gurtymadden and Gortnagappa very generous, where they got you."
What's your game? I'm intitled to my opinion....freedom of speech, and in my opinion Tipp to win by 7 or 8pts and who cares if you like what I say or not.

katser (Galway) - Posts: 2193 - 25/06/2019 22:03:26    2200942

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Flanagan has been struggling with injury for most of the spring. Last year when at full flight he was absolutely crucial to Limericks cause. My comment is not as off the wall as you think as his physical presence alone- remember his bone crushing tackle on Mannion last year- is crucial. Our full forward line is relatively light weight without him. Do you really think Eoin Cadogan would have been man of the match if he was on a fully fit Flanagan."
Yes, Flanagan was crucial to Limerick's success last year but hasn't made the same impact so far this year (I didn't realise he has been injured). The point I was making is that, while Limerick have adjusted well to his absence this year, Bonner is an essential part of Tipp's forward line and we have yet to see how they will cope without him. Personally, I don't believe they will be nearly as devastating and they have no obvious replacement. By the way, I agree with your comment about Cadogan. He wouldn't have been able to handle Flanagan (2018 version).

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 542 - 25/06/2019 22:09:45    2200950

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Replying To WildPundit:  "
Replying To Cockney_Cat:  "[quote=WildPundit:  "[quote=Cockney_Cat:  "Funny fact Limerick have never beaten Tipp in a Munster final when game played in Limerick.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1609 - 24/06/2019 17:40:12 2200095


How many times has a Munster final between Tipp and Limerick been played in Limerick?"
Look it up"
I did. The last Munster final between Tipp and Limerick, to be played in Limerick, was a replay in 1996. The only other final was in 1922 (again a replay). So your so called "funny fact" is meaningless."]It wasn't meant to have meaning it's a fact."]Well here's another "funny fact": Kilkenny have never beating Dublin in a Leinster Football final.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2454 - 25/06/2019 22:16:15    2200959

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Replying To midlands:  "Yes, Flanagan was crucial to Limerick's success last year but hasn't made the same impact so far this year (I didn't realise he has been injured). The point I was making is that, while Limerick have adjusted well to his absence this year, Bonner is an essential part of Tipp's forward line and we have yet to see how they will cope without him. Personally, I don't believe they will be nearly as devastating and they have no obvious replacement. By the way, I agree with your comment about Cadogan. He wouldn't have been able to handle Flanagan (2018 version)."
Certainly brings something different than our other forwards. From a work rate perspective, McCormack and O'Meara at the very least equal his and O'Meara also offers a greater scoring threat and aerial ability despite his height. He will be a loss but not astronomical.

Tipp are reasonably well covered in every line of the field apart from the full backline. The dominance of the 3 Mahers and Noel Mcgrath has covered this fact pretty well so far. The supply of ball into Gillane will need to be stopped for Tipp to come out on top. To do that we need to keep Limerick's two key men outside of Gillane, in Hannon and Lynch quiet.

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 25/06/2019 23:03:56    2200992

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Will this be another bout of "shadow-boxing", like the game in Thurles a fortnight ago? As it's quite possible that both teams will meet again later in the summer, it might not be the "do or die" occasion that many expect. And, of course, these the fascinating possibility that Limerick could lose to Cork, Tipp (twice) and still retain the McCarthy Cup!

football first (None) - Posts: 1259 - 25/06/2019 23:37:52    2201003

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It's not a do or die game but the victor will get to the semi-finals. Tipp/Limerick will be looking to avoid a tough game against Cork/Kilkenny/Wexford/Dublin. I also don't think Kiely wants to lose another game in Munster this year.

Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 26/06/2019 00:46:37    2201022

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