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I cannot believe some of the people on here would have an issue with the team being out on Monday.

They give up SO much of their time. They are entitled to a day and night off the same as every other team in the country.

They are training since December/ January and can more than likely count the amount of times on one hand that they have drank since then. Give them a break.

They are not professional athletes. They have lives outside of football.

breffblue101 (Cavan) - Posts: 13 - 27/06/2019 12:23:32    2201662

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "NO"
Of course they are. What is your problem with the team? If you dont respect them and what they are doing find another county to stalk.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 27/06/2019 12:27:51    2201665

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Sure you don't rate them anyway and think they are not good enough so what harm is a few pints doing anyway if there are no good anyway.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 845 - 27/06/2019 12:52:44    2201675

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Sure you don't rate them anyway and think they are not good enough so what harm is a few pints doing anyway if there are no good anyway."
Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59    2201694

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Replying To RHF:  "Replying To The Quiet Man: "NO"


Sure you don't rate them anyway and think they are not good enough so what harm is a few pints doing anyway if there are no good anyway."
It's about RESPECT...

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 27/06/2019 13:36:08    2201696

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Replying To breffblue101:  "I cannot believe some of the people on here would have an issue with the team being out on Monday.

They give up SO much of their time. They are entitled to a day and night off the same as every other team in the country.

They are training since December/ January and can more than likely count the amount of times on one hand that they have drank since then. Give them a break.

They are not professional athletes. They have lives outside of football."
Not some people. One Person. A bitter person at that for some reason.

fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1483 - 27/06/2019 13:45:36    2201700

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I am happy to hear that they took a break from the regime earlier in the week. Morale will be a crush issue next weekend.

kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 27/06/2019 14:07:57    2201712

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Replying To fredflint:  "Not some people. One Person. A bitter person at that for some reason."
I think he had a bit of an inside track when Mattie was in charge, something he has since been denied, possibly due to his ramblings and posting of subliminal messages on here (notice the change of username). That might explain it.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5009 - 27/06/2019 14:13:46    2201717

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Replying To cavanman47:  "I think he had a bit of an inside track when Mattie was in charge, something he has since been denied, possibly due to his ramblings and posting of subliminal messages on here (notice the change of username). That might explain it."
He wouldn't get much change out of Mickey. Mickey would know what he's like. You could have history there from years back over something silly like jumping the wall in Breffni back in the day

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 27/06/2019 14:25:34    2201726

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delighted for the lads to go and enjoy themselves. its been a long year and an ulster campaign that they can be proud of. whether you like it or not drink is in our culture whether its a wedding, funeral, baptism or losing a football match and it can be a good outlet to let go of negativity and for the lads to tighten their bond.
I'm looking forward to Monday mornings draw now.
the year is my no means over yet!!! through all the negativity since the donegal loss you have to consider who will want to draw cavan? Tyrone perhaps would be confident. can't see mayo been keen and certainly none of the rest!!! there's a big opportunity here for cavan and with a bit of confidence and luck you just don't know where this team could finish up.

theweanling (Cavan) - Posts: 414 - 27/06/2019 15:08:51    2201742

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it."
Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 845 - 27/06/2019 15:13:28    2201745

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After a defeat like Sunday's, going out having a few drinks, a bit of craic , what you might call team bonding, recharging the batteries, getting it out of their system,etc., will do them no harm at all. I'm sure at this stage they'll have regrouped and are fully focused on the task ahead, and the very best of luck to them.

aceofspades (Cavan) - Posts: 256 - 27/06/2019 15:53:14    2201763

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Replying To RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2019 16:41:13    2201787

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "
Replying To RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country."
You have to agree there's a serious improvement in our play this year than previous years especially the years when your mate VA was in charge.
Constructive criticism is fine but you haven't been constructive .
You moan about a few pints on the Monday after an Ulster final.
Give credit where credit is due. We have come along way in 12 months and players and management deserve credit for that.
Yes players and Mickey made mistakes , who doesn't? But there's improvement and that's all genuine supporters care about.
Only 1 team can win Ulster every year. We will be better for the experience next year. We had a good Ulster championship. 1 more win we in the Super8s. If we don't win a game in it so be it . It will be a new experience for players and management and supporters. Enjoy it.

Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 27/06/2019 17:03:26    2201792

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "
Replying To RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country."
All I'm asking is for a little respect when you get home ( just a little bit)

Benjy1000 (Cavan) - Posts: 85 - 27/06/2019 17:13:13    2201793

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "
Replying To The Quiet Man:  "[quote=RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country."
You have to agree there's a serious improvement in our play this year than previous years especially the years when your mate VA was in charge.
Constructive criticism is fine but you haven't been constructive .
You moan about a few pints on the Monday after an Ulster final.
Give credit where credit is due. We have come along way in 12 months and players and management deserve credit for that.
Yes players and Mickey made mistakes , who doesn't? But there's improvement and that's all genuine supporters care about.
Only 1 team can win Ulster every year. We will be better for the experience next year. We had a good Ulster championship. 1 more win we in the Super8s. If we don't win a game in it so be it . It will be a new experience for players and management and supporters. Enjoy it."]Well said inaroundthehouse.

blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 881 - 27/06/2019 17:44:51    2201808

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Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "[quote=The Quiet Man:  "[quote=RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country."
You have to agree there's a serious improvement in our play this year than previous years especially the years when your mate VA was in charge.
Constructive criticism is fine but you haven't been constructive .
You moan about a few pints on the Monday after an Ulster final.
Give credit where credit is due. We have come along way in 12 months and players and management deserve credit for that.
Yes players and Mickey made mistakes , who doesn't? But there's improvement and that's all genuine supporters care about.
Only 1 team can win Ulster every year. We will be better for the experience next year. We had a good Ulster championship. 1 more win we in the Super8s. If we don't win a game in it so be it . It will be a new experience for players and management and supporters. Enjoy it."]Well said inaroundthehouse."]A good Cavan man wouldnt begrudge the lads a night or two out.

That pitch was the biggest bog about the place sure the ball would barely come back up after a bounce whatever was up with it it was dead. Hopefully it can be maintained now by the a professional company with lads with a education.

RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 845 - 27/06/2019 21:12:10    2201885

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Replying To blueman1903:  "
Replying To Inaroundehouse:  "[quote=The Quiet Man:  "[quote=RHF:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4395 - 27/06/2019 13:30:59

Sure you reckon they are not up to it anyway so what are you whining for."
You have your opinion so have I we are different in our views that's the beauty of democracy.
Nice that of the 3 or 4 people that had a similar opinion I become the target man but that's fine water of a ducks back.
To the other posters regarding Micky Graham we get on very well and I hope he succeeds over the next few years and I am sure he knows he has a hard task ahead of him to find some quality players as well. Micky's first cousin is our god child as well.
To the poster regarding Mattie McGleenan and I we were not the best of friends and the main reason was RESPECT?? respect for the county pitch for if you don't have respect for the facilities you will hardly expect respect from the players, this applies to previous managers as well.
In fairness to Mickey he has shown a lot of respect for the county pitch credit to him and I applaud him.

To the other poster regarding climbing over the wall well these were Cavan's best supporters that never paid to see a match. Arm chair or high stool critics ten a penny aren't they the real GAA fans.

I am told sure you don't think they are up to it and the stark reality is NO we have too many weak links it's that simple it's the raw reality of it. As a genuine supporter like thousands I am not on my own with that opinion.

As I have said in many posts to be constructive with your criticism you need to remove the blinkers and watch both teams to make a fair analysis of a game or games and the players.

I hope they reach the Super 8s for they will get a chance to see how they fair against the best in the country."
You have to agree there's a serious improvement in our play this year than previous years especially the years when your mate VA was in charge.
Constructive criticism is fine but you haven't been constructive .
You moan about a few pints on the Monday after an Ulster final.
Give credit where credit is due. We have come along way in 12 months and players and management deserve credit for that.
Yes players and Mickey made mistakes , who doesn't? But there's improvement and that's all genuine supporters care about.
Only 1 team can win Ulster every year. We will be better for the experience next year. We had a good Ulster championship. 1 more win we in the Super8s. If we don't win a game in it so be it . It will be a new experience for players and management and supporters. Enjoy it."]Well said inaroundthehouse."]Excuse me it was not I that started off about the drink on a Monday and Tuesday so just find time to see who made the comment., I don't drink so maybe the wrong person to make a comment about drink BUT there is an important game in less than two weeks and the last thing one should be doing is breaking the routine since last October.
Yes they did well to get to an Ulster Final but against what on the way a third division team and a Monaghan team that have gone back years sadly.
You say a better team why do you say that the majority of the players were there for Mattie McGleenan who was less than 19 months with them. Relegated to division 2 and brought right back up you have to admit that in itself was some achievement considering the fact that several refused to come in to work with him. For me those that refused to make themselves available should never get the chance again to wear the Cavan shirt.

I struggle to see where we have improved to be honest especially after the performance on Sunday. I am not in the habit of naming players so you will have to establish this for yourself who is not good enough. You know yourself these players will stand out when they get back to their clubs and the reason for that is that they have been training and playing at a higher standard.
The majority know who are not up to the senior standard required for inter county football and I am sure if the manager was to be truthful and spoke his mind he would name most of the players that are not good enough.
I am not knocking these players they go out there night after night training and for the management they are all thats averrable to them this year. After the championship this year if there are not at least 8 new players brought in Cavan are going no where fast.
Sorry for being cruel but I will not change to suit others. It's the way I am I speak from the heart.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2019 21:13:10    2201886

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Replying To The Quiet Man:  "Yes agree but if they think they should be in the top 8 it's no celebrating their loss last Sunday. As a paying supporter of Cavan I am entitled to my opinion regardless. They should be concentrating on working on what went wrong but I fear that's an impossible ask but you have to try at least. Can you imagine getting an easy entrance to the top 8 and fail because the lads were not up to it."
They weren't celebrating their loss. At a time where mental health issues amongst young men is worryingly high the least the lads deserve was a night or two out together. The lads train 4 or 5 nights a week and even when they're not training they're focusing on eating right and getting themselves ready for training. They leave work early, sacrifice a large amount of their social life and family time to commit to playing football for their county. So for people to be calling the lads out for enjoying themselves is in my opinion nothing short of a disgrace. They have done us proud so far this year and yes there is improvements to be made. A bit of common sense would go a long way here.

patman92 (Cavan) - Posts: 70 - 27/06/2019 22:03:38    2201905

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Replying To patman92:  "They weren't celebrating their loss. At a time where mental health issues amongst young men is worryingly high the least the lads deserve was a night or two out together. The lads train 4 or 5 nights a week and even when they're not training they're focusing on eating right and getting themselves ready for training. They leave work early, sacrifice a large amount of their social life and family time to commit to playing football for their county. So for people to be calling the lads out for enjoying themselves is in my opinion nothing short of a disgrace. They have done us proud so far this year and yes there is improvements to be made. A bit of common sense would go a long way here."
As I said it was not I that even mentioned it confront those that did.
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That pitch was the biggest bog about the place sure the ball would barely come back up after a bounce whatever was up with it it was dead. Hopefully it can be maintained now by the a professional company with lads with a education.
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In case you don't know it I have a level 7 course done on ground maintenance more than many so called professionals that you talk about.

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RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 570 - 27/06/2019 21:12:10 2201885
(From me:: by the way you complaint before about the bounce and the bounce was that bad the ball fell in front of one of the Cavan keepers at the time who was over six foot and what happened I will tell you in case you are suffering from amnesia it bounced over him and over the bar???)

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To this person RHF you know who I am I make no secret about it. I know who you are but you hide.
regarding the biggest bog about the place in all my years looking after the pitch only one match was called off due to water logging and the funny thing about it many more grounds suffered as well the same weekend over the whole country. It took over €200000 thousand to repair the county ground 17 years after it was done for the first time Cavan got seven more years for the period of life for the ground was 10 years yes 10 years. Cavan got 7 extra years and a lot of that came to hundred of man hours trying to keep it playable I feel that in my time I did the best I could on my own.
The pitch you are playing on right now was being abused by someone until I brought it to the attention of the County Board and thankfully they acted on it. You will not be able to name any team in the country that did not enjoy playing on the Breifni pitch and in all my years I never had any inter county team criticise the pitch. The County that beat Cavan last Sunday said they loved playing on it and wished they had a ground like it. Tyrone Monaghan Dublin Cork Kerry Wicklow Roscommon Galway Waterford Tipperary to name a few all loved playing on the county pitch. RTE TG4 BBC Ulster all made it their business to congratulate the groundsman on a well presented pitch and stadium. Northern sound got messages from Australia New Zealand USA Hong Kong and even sent letters to the county board they even sent me thank you cards for having a pitch well presented for their games. I got a fantastic recommendation and commendation from Australian Rules personal they presented me with the full kit that all their own personal were issued with Hats scarf beautiful overcoat full playing kit and invited me to a breakfast in the Slieve Russell Hotel to present me with this kit in appreciation. There is also an open invitation from them should I ever wish to go to Australia they will look after me. I will not be fulfilling that invitation but a nice one all the same.
So you RHF I expect you are the minority about me and I expect if you were asked to mark the park in the morning you could not do it.

The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 27/06/2019 23:06:31    2201938

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