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Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day.
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Dublin have no challenger any more.
Dublin are moving away out on their own completely. Maybe after this season the scales will lift from more eyes with regards the future of football at All Ireland senior level. This is not a stand alone Dublin side organically coming to a peak with an end of life cycle hoping to go to the well one more time and win a 5 in a row. It's not a bit like the Kerry side in 1982 that were the same squad and especially first 15 year in and out for 5 continuous years or like the Kilkenny team in 2010 that had massive collective mileage too.
What sets Dublin apart from Kerry 82' and Kilkenny 10' is this Dublin team is continually hitting the re-set button and regenerating at rate no other side can match. The Dublin senior squads - not squad - I mean squads - are getting younger, stronger and even more professional and efficient by the year. Dublin will cruise onto a 5 in a row. Let's talk about six baby will be the cry soon enough! The lack of genuine competition will eventually even effect the most staunch of Dublin supporters, the fun and drama will go out of it soon enough. Mark my words.
Kingdomson (Kerry) - Posts: 244 - 17/06/2019 21:30:42
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day." I think you're looking through this too much with the rose-tinted glasses of being a Monaghan supporter. Im not trying to have a go at you, but Monaghan have never won an All-Ireland, and (maybe Im wrong on this) I don't even think they've ever beaten Dublin in the championship. This Dublin team wont be beaten by McManus on his own, and not many top teams will either, and Beggan is a keeper for god's sake. A great keeper but still a keeper. We need to look beyond our own borders here. Id expect Monaghan to regroup enough to reach the 8's out of the current qualifiers as with Galway and Mayo, but genuinely challenge Dublin, no, Im afraid. The poster from Kerry has a point. They're pulling further away and their greatest enemy is likely themselves becoming complacent. All in all, Id love to be wrong and see any of the teams I mentioned in my other post push on and win an All-Ireland, but I cant see it happening this year.
Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 17/06/2019 21:57:40
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No other team is close.
The only chance for another team is that in a knock out game Dublin concede 3 or 4 lucky goals. And there only are 2 knock out games.
Best placed in my opinion in order would be Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal, Mayo.
But it would be incredibly surprising if Dublin don't win.
tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 17/06/2019 22:09:33
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day." For Gods sake.. Monaghan !!
Belclare (Galway) - Posts: 904 - 17/06/2019 22:12:02
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day." Parody account?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 17/06/2019 22:14:38
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Replying To royaldunne: "Have mayo got a song yet??" They havnt won two games in a row yet royaldunne, if they do then I'm sure we'll get a song.
Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 665 - 17/06/2019 22:39:51
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When have Donegal peaked? They weren't putting 100% into the Tyrone game. We won't beat Dublin but neither will Monaghan in their current form.
Hawkeye9212 (Donegal) - Posts: 266 - 17/06/2019 23:02:04
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Replying To greatpoint: "Parody account?" It would appear so. A neighbor's child perhaps.
greysoil (Monaghan) - Posts: 965 - 17/06/2019 23:05:58
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day." You're right yeah, Donegal have peaked! Lol
Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1319 - 17/06/2019 23:07:30
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Replying To Kingdomson: "Dublin have no challenger any more.
Dublin are moving away out on their own completely. Maybe after this season the scales will lift from more eyes with regards the future of football at All Ireland senior level. This is not a stand alone Dublin side organically coming to a peak with an end of life cycle hoping to go to the well one more time and win a 5 in a row. It's not a bit like the Kerry side in 1982 that were the same squad and especially first 15 year in and out for 5 continuous years or like the Kilkenny team in 2010 that had massive collective mileage too.
What sets Dublin apart from Kerry 82' and Kilkenny 10' is this Dublin team is continually hitting the re-set button and regenerating at rate no other side can match. The Dublin senior squads - not squad - I mean squads - are getting younger, stronger and even more professional and efficient by the year. Dublin will cruise onto a 5 in a row. Let's talk about six baby will be the cry soon enough! The lack of genuine competition will eventually even effect the most staunch of Dublin supporters, the fun and drama will go out of it soon enough. Mark my words." is that the same Kerry squad of 82 ,that were out on there feet , who went on to complete another treble 84-86 ?
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 17/06/2019 23:48:56
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Replying To monaghanmad: "Donegal have peaked and so have roscommon, they have shown their hands and will not go anywhere this year. Mayo , Kerry and Monaghan are the only teams that can beat he dubs.
Tyrone had their chance last year, Learned nothing, no forward etc
Galway cant be trusted, no forward who can play, no Keeper, no centre half and no kick out strategy
Roscommon, peak too early, man mark cox and pick out holes in their midfield and they will fall.
Donegal have peaked too I think, had one big game in them this year, possibly against Tyrone
Kerry, any team with their forwards are capable to beat the dubs, haven't showed nothing this year so far
Mayo have the desire, will to win and the manager to win
Monaghan, any team with Rory beggan and conor mc manus can beat the dubs, have showed nothing this year.
If these teams can get through to the super 8s then they can beat Dublin on a given day." Lad seriously Monaghan will not beat Dublin , Kerry Tyrone Mayo Donegal , all capable of beating Dublin in a one off game sorry .
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 17/06/2019 23:58:03
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Most teams seem a long way off it seems ATM but in sport I guess you never know in a one off semi or final game.
1. Donegal- Going on their performances so far. Few established players still playing well and a few top class newcomers, on their day they could cause an upset. Fast, pacy players throughout the pitch and the potential to put up a high score is what is needed and I think they have the best chance to beat the dubs.
2. Mayo- If they make it to the super 8s Mayo are the next best IMO. They have shown they are capable of getting very close to Dublin, maybe they have regressed since then but they still have a good core of the same team even though they are a few years older. The game against Roscommon could have went either way, and since then Roscommon have shown they are not a bad side, I would not rule Mayo out yet.
3. Kerry- As a previous poster said you probably need 3 or 4 goals to beat them so I think Kerry are capable of this, the problem being not conceding the same amount at the other end. Its Peter Keanes first year in charge combined with a new look team which will not be fully tested for another while so its very hard to say. But so far it looks like we are still a long way off where we want to be but hopefully this team will succeed in time.
Others such as Tyrone and Galway will not score enough to beat Dublin unless they change the way they play. Outside of these teams I cant see any other threats but you never know.
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will ye listen to the Kerry boys playing the poor mouth. Kerry are the only team with a chance of toppling Dublin this year. They will beat Cork handsomely and easily make the semi-final. They have the best full-forward line in the country and the best player bar none in David Clifford. Donegal would be the next best. They will easily dispose of Cavan and they will improve as they progress. Mayo will be there or thereabouts again as will Tyrone. Cant see Roscommon fairing any better this year than last in the super 8s.
The 8 will be. Dublin,Kerry,Donegal,Roscommon,Mayo,Tyrone,Meath and Galway.
s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/06/2019 00:36:36
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Replying To KingdomBoy1: "Now that Mayo Galway Tyrone and Monaghan have all gone back the door with a good chance of Donegal and ourselves joining them next week round 4 could see 3 to 4 of those teams gone before the super 8s .
Is there any realistic challengers left?" Time for a balanced Super 12 - 24 non-Finalists in 8 groups of 3 Rd 1 - 8 winners, 4 best 2nds and 4 Prov Final losers in 16 team Rd 2 - 8 Rd 2 winners and 4 Prov Champs in the Super 12 (4 groups of 3, 1st group match losers v byes in 2nd group matches, 4 group winners to AI SFs).
omahant (USA) - Posts: 2570 - 18/06/2019 00:45:05
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Corofin would hammer the Dubs
brisbane (Galway) - Posts: 674 - 18/06/2019 02:26:11
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Replying To Kingdomson: "Dublin have no challenger any more.
Dublin are moving away out on their own completely. Maybe after this season the scales will lift from more eyes with regards the future of football at All Ireland senior level. This is not a stand alone Dublin side organically coming to a peak with an end of life cycle hoping to go to the well one more time and win a 5 in a row. It's not a bit like the Kerry side in 1982 that were the same squad and especially first 15 year in and out for 5 continuous years or like the Kilkenny team in 2010 that had massive collective mileage too.
What sets Dublin apart from Kerry 82' and Kilkenny 10' is this Dublin team is continually hitting the re-set button and regenerating at rate no other side can match. The Dublin senior squads - not squad - I mean squads - are getting younger, stronger and even more professional and efficient by the year. Dublin will cruise onto a 5 in a row. Let's talk about six baby will be the cry soon enough! The lack of genuine competition will eventually even effect the most staunch of Dublin supporters, the fun and drama will go out of it soon enough. Mark my words." i agree with a lot of what you said but i think they'll have a bit of work to replace Cluxton, Fitsimons, Cooper, Mcmahon, OSullivan who are all starting to push on
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "They havnt won two games in a row yet royaldunne, if they do then I'm sure we'll get a song." Best of luck Sunday...I think ye can beat Dublin if ye can get away with throwing the ball into the net...
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11227 - 18/06/2019 07:43:00
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Replying To Royal.Legend: "They havnt won two games in a row yet royaldunne, if they do then I'm sure we'll get a song." Do you have your own stand up gig and all?
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3 teams for me;
Mayo
Kerry
Donegal
Mayo are a Croke Park team
Kerry have lethal forwards
Donegal have massive pace all over their team
clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 18/06/2019 09:36:57
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