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Meath V Dublin Leinster Final.

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "If I was a player and the meath setup had top class sports physiologists I'm sure they could brain wash me into believing we would win. But in this situation the players are better off realising it could get ugly so if it does it won't affect them as much for the next match which will decide if this year was a complete success or not.

We simply must win the 4th round qualifier or it will be 4 times in a row we've been knocked out when reaching that stage. And each time we got there by losing to Dublin in the final. The squad at least mentally need to be fully prepared this time to get over the leinster final as soon as it's over.

But I'm just a fan so I can believe what I want. Talking to meath fans nobody believes we will win so I'd give a safe estimate that 90%+ in the county expect us to be well beaten.

@Ollie
Very interesting stat. So Dublin will do more then 1 five in a row this year. It will be the biggest ever period of dominance for Dublin over Meath since the creation of the GAA."
Jack sorry. This is getting too much. As someone who knows a couple of the players and their families I can absolutely assure you that they are convinced that not only can they win, but that they will win. They have absolute faith in Andy and would go through a brick wall for him (something no manager has achieved since boylan era) also majority of the team that starts will never have played dubs in championship, off top of my head , keoghan menton Newman McMahon are the only ones , now I can't recall if either lavin or McGill played against them last time and I'm too lazy to check it up, but well over 50% will not have.
Also jack I genuinely think that you and some others would prefer Meath not to win or even compete as it would back up the narrative that dubs should be split (it ain't gonna happen, and may I add should never even be considered ). It's a ridiculous idea and for colm O'Rourke to bang on about it makes a laughing stock out of him and devalues Meath. He is very much in the minority in Meath about splitting Dublin. And furthermore it would do the game untold damage. I actually think that mcentee is ripping up the Meath mindset of recent times, he has made us competitive again and honestly doesn't care what the suits in certain quarters of Meath think or want. And the players who are there fully back him, when is the last time we have seen such a United panel?? It's been years. So yes I do believe that certain elements are terrified that Meath will be competitive against dubs, that appears to be many biggest worry which makes me think there is other factors in play here.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 14/06/2019 09:48:57    2194717

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "If I was a player and the meath setup had top class sports physiologists I'm sure they could brain wash me into believing we would win. But in this situation the players are better off realising it could get ugly so if it does it won't affect them as much for the next match which will decide if this year was a complete success or not.

We simply must win the 4th round qualifier or it will be 4 times in a row we've been knocked out when reaching that stage. And each time we got there by losing to Dublin in the final. The squad at least mentally need to be fully prepared this time to get over the leinster final as soon as it's over.

But I'm just a fan so I can believe what I want. Talking to meath fans nobody believes we will win so I'd give a safe estimate that 90%+ in the county expect us to be well beaten.

@Ollie
Very interesting stat. So Dublin will do more then 1 five in a row this year. It will be the biggest ever period of dominance for Dublin over Meath since the creation of the GAA."
In fairness I'd far rather have a squad brainwashed into believing they're going to win over a squad brainwashed into believing they can't win.

Now I get your point, you believe we can't win, and so we shouldn't even try against the Dubs, but rather save ourselves for the 4th round qualifier. Essentially an expensive day out for a walkover.

But here's the thing, how can you tell a team to quit one day and then tell them they must win the next? Surely you either create an ambitious culture around the squad or you take the píss and tell the players to not bother trying 'cause it's too hard".

You can't really have it both ways, and anyway there's no place to hide in Div1 next year. If we have any ambition then we must get used to playing and beating top teams at some stage and I'm not sure quitting and hiding is the best way to make that possible.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 14/06/2019 10:01:43    2194724

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "People need to stop using the population number for direct comparison. It doesn't make any sense.
Registered GAA players are the actual pool available to counties to pick from. Dublin have the most but it's nowhere near the multiple of other counties, that their population is. This is due to Dublin having by far the lowest percentage of registered players.
As of the last numbers I saw from 2015, Dublin had 39K registered players (both codes). Cork had 34K, Galway 21.5K, Meath 15K, Kerry 15K, Mayo 10.5K. Laois had 9.5K.
If we're going to debate player numbers this is the number that actually matters."
My man, so Dublin is a dual county so if you half 39 thousand it's around the same amount of football players as there is in Kerry who aren't a dual county so really there's very little in playing numbers between both counties.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 14/06/2019 11:01:12    2194753

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Jack sorry. This is getting too much. As someone who knows a couple of the players and their families I can absolutely assure you that they are convinced that not only can they win, but that they will win. They have absolute faith in Andy and would go through a brick wall for him (something no manager has achieved since boylan era) also majority of the team that starts will never have played dubs in championship, off top of my head , keoghan menton Newman McMahon are the only ones , now I can't recall if either lavin or McGill played against them last time and I'm too lazy to check it up, but well over 50% will not have.
Also jack I genuinely think that you and some others would prefer Meath not to win or even compete as it would back up the narrative that dubs should be split (it ain't gonna happen, and may I add should never even be considered ). It's a ridiculous idea and for colm O'Rourke to bang on about it makes a laughing stock out of him and devalues Meath. He is very much in the minority in Meath about splitting Dublin. And furthermore it would do the game untold damage. I actually think that mcentee is ripping up the Meath mindset of recent times, he has made us competitive again and honestly doesn't care what the suits in certain quarters of Meath think or want. And the players who are there fully back him, when is the last time we have seen such a United panel?? It's been years. So yes I do believe that certain elements are terrified that Meath will be competitive against dubs, that appears to be many biggest worry which makes me think there is other factors in play here."
Ah RD and there was me thinking that Tommy Tiernan was the funniest man to come out of Meath, he's not a patch on you, you're so so funny!

DUBJOHN (Dublin) - Posts: 932 - 15/06/2019 04:02:36    2195140

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Great and accurate interview with Brian menton on main page. All they are focused on is their own performance and game plan.
Bring it on.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/06/2019 09:31:29    2195159

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I do wonder how this Dublin team would react to a physical, tough ,hard , in your face opponent. Even last year as said on Meath forum Tyrone genuflected to them.
Would a couple of rows early on shake them?, apart from cluxton, is their any of the dubs team that can get down and dirty lime the ones of old ??

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/06/2019 11:46:29    2195205

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I do wonder how this Dublin team would react to a physical, tough ,hard , in your face opponent. Even last year as said on Meath forum Tyrone genuflected to them.
Would a couple of rows early on shake them?, apart from cluxton, is their any of the dubs team that can get down and dirty lime the ones of old ??"
Are you taking the piss my friend, they'd throw your lads around the place for fun :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 15/06/2019 12:56:55    2195227

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I do wonder how this Dublin team would react to a physical, tough ,hard , in your face opponent. Even last year as said on Meath forum Tyrone genuflected to them.
Would a couple of rows early on shake them?, apart from cluxton, is their any of the dubs team that can get down and dirty lime the ones of old ??"
Eh, yeah.

Joxer (Dublin) - Posts: 4700 - 15/06/2019 13:22:36    2195231

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I do wonder how this Dublin team would react to a physical, tough ,hard , in your face opponent. Even last year as said on Meath forum Tyrone genuflected to them.
Would a couple of rows early on shake them?, apart from cluxton, is their any of the dubs team that can get down and dirty lime the ones of old ??"
We will find out in the super 8s I'd say when we start coming up against the "physical, tough, hard, in your face opponents" you speak about, but if I were to hazard a guess I reckon we will be okay. Thanks for your concern all the same.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 15/06/2019 14:37:36    2195248

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Replying To realdub:  "Are you taking the piss my friend, they'd throw your lads around the place for fun :D"
Unfortunately I'd have to agree. I wouldn't fancy our lads against that Dublin team in a scrap. Boys against men.

RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 15/06/2019 15:04:57    2195259

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Replying To realdub:  "Are you taking the piss my friend, they'd throw your lads around the place for fun :D"
Not so sure about that. :)

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/06/2019 17:06:56    2195302

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Replying To waynoI:  "We will find out in the super 8s I'd say when we start coming up against the "physical, tough, hard, in your face opponents" you speak about, but if I were to hazard a guess I reckon we will be okay. Thanks for your concern all the same."
Now Wayne. Your clubman would take them any then apart, you and I both know that.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/06/2019 17:08:20    2195303

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Not so sure about that. :)"
:D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 15/06/2019 17:37:20    2195311

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I mean there isn't a Mullins keaveney duff Murphy even a Redmond on that team. Can u imagine Some of them if a ruck broke out?? Like let's not kid ourselves this is the most pampered inter county team of all time , and I don't think they would handle Meaths old style game, half them would run away Incase their fake tan, hairstyle or manicure would get damaged. Meath don't have that problem. So could be interesting if it got into a scrap.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 15/06/2019 17:42:21    2195315

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Great and accurate interview with Brian menton on main page. All they are focused on is their own performance and game plan.
Bring it on."
And giving interviews.

You won't hear a peak out of the Dublin camp.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 15/06/2019 17:47:39    2195318

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I mean there isn't a Mullins keaveney duff Murphy even a Redmond on that team. Can u imagine Some of them if a ruck broke out?? Like let's not kid ourselves this is the most pampered inter county team of all time , and I don't think they would handle Meaths old style game, half them would run away Incase their fake tan, hairstyle or manicure would get damaged. Meath don't have that problem. So could be interesting if it got into a scrap."
James McCarthy puts milk and sugar on his Meath men for breakfast.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 15/06/2019 18:08:17    2195328

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I mean there isn't a Mullins keaveney duff Murphy even a Redmond on that team. Can u imagine Some of them if a ruck broke out?? Like let's not kid ourselves this is the most pampered inter county team of all time , and I don't think they would handle Meaths old style game, half them would run away Incase their fake tan, hairstyle or manicure would get damaged. Meath don't have that problem. So could be interesting if it got into a scrap."
Mess with their hair at your own peril :D

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8586 - 15/06/2019 18:13:46    2195331

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Replying To TheUsername:  "James McCarthy puts milk and sugar on his Meath men for breakfast."
No problem, what consenting adults do in their spare time is their own business.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 15/06/2019 18:32:45    2195338

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Replying To TheUsername:  "And giving interviews.

You won't hear a peak out of the Dublin camp."
Of course not...unless there is money to be made of course.

Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 15/06/2019 18:50:37    2195345

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I mean there isn't a Mullins keaveney duff Murphy even a Redmond on that team. Can u imagine Some of them if a ruck broke out?? Like let's not kid ourselves this is the most pampered inter county team of all time , and I don't think they would handle Meaths old style game, half them would run away Incase their fake tan, hairstyle or manicure would get damaged. Meath don't have that problem. So could be interesting if it got into a scrap."
;)

Meath don't fear the Dubs.

Says a lot about what you really think of this Meath team that has failed get within a mile of this preening, pampered Dubs team!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13705 - 15/06/2019 18:56:18    2195348

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